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« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2007, 05:19:11 PM »

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well, i think he wears a size 14 ish

and i think he scrunched his toes to fit into a size 10.5

ALE should have checked to see if his HEAL was in the back of the shoe

they are INCOMPETANT  Mad


Robots- He is closer to wearing a 12-13-14-15 than a 9.5- 10.5 or 115...imo...


yep  Cool  Wink
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« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2007, 05:19:51 PM »

im serious they are LONGER than his head

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size 10....... nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2007, 05:21:56 PM »

I looked at the witness statements and it doesn't seem like Paulus was ever asked if he had met Natalee at the casino. Paulus was present at Joran's first statement athough no copies appear to have survived, and pages are missing from the PVDS interviews.
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« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2007, 05:22:07 PM »

well, the germaphobic is going out to eat Mad  Mad  Mad  Mad

course, im not going to eat...im just going to sit there and pretend to be happy and hope to get out alive

YUCK   YUCK YUCK  Mad  Mad  Mad  Mad  Mad

be back later
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« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2007, 05:24:25 PM »

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I looked at the witness statements and it doesn't seem like Paulus was ever asked if he had met Natalee at the casino. Paulus was present at Joran's first statement athough no copies appear to have survived, and pages are missing from the PVDS interviews.


Spock.. doesn't one of Paulus' PV's go like page 1 - page 2 - page 3 missing page 4???????

It just stops altogether????
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« Reply #45 on: May 07, 2007, 05:28:16 PM »

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I looked at the witness statements and it doesn't seem like Paulus was ever asked if he had met Natalee at the casino. Paulus was present at Joran's first statement athough no copies appear to have survived, and pages are missing from the PVDS interviews.


Spock.. doesn't one of Paulus' PV's go like page 1 - page 2 - page 3 missing page 4???????

It just stops altogether????

Yep, it's a mess, and when he was investigated as a suspect his answers are so ambigious as to be unbeliveable and unusable.
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« Reply #46 on: May 07, 2007, 05:32:24 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: May 07, 2007, 05:34:46 PM »

I do recall a statement from Paulus somewhere where he said he had never met the girl. It may have come from an interview and not from a police statement. Can anyone find him saying that?
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« Reply #48 on: May 07, 2007, 05:36:34 PM »

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I know its extremely difficult to judge his shoe size but I am looking at the shoe in perspective to his ankle. It just does not look like size 14.IMO..If I was sitting next to him I am almost sure my shoes would be bigger..I wear size 12.



I agree with you.  I wear a 13 and am 6' tall but my shoes look bigger than this pic
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« Reply #49 on: May 07, 2007, 05:39:28 PM »

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I know its extremely difficult to judge his shoe size but I am looking at the shoe in perspective to his ankle. It just does not look like size 14.IMO..If I was sitting next to him I am almost sure my shoes would be bigger..I wear size 12.



I agree with you.  I wear a 13 and am 6' tall but my shoes look bigger than this pic


Joran was only about 14 yrs old in this pic. I'm sure his foot has grown since then.
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« Reply #50 on: May 07, 2007, 05:40:15 PM »

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When Greta interviewed Joran, he said himself he is about 6'2" or 6'3", not 6'5" like everyone posted. So that would make a difference in the shoe size.

I have a cousin who is about 6'3" that wears a size 16 shoe. He has to have his shoes special made for him.


I would guess that a size 14 shoe would be VERY hard to get in Aruba without special ordering it, especially if you want it in a specific style.  I wear a 13 and have a hard time finding shoes in the style I want and I live not too far out of Detroit!  I often have to settle for shoes that dont fit perfectly or styles that I dont exactly want.
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« Reply #51 on: May 07, 2007, 05:41:09 PM »

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I agree with you.  I wear a 13 and am 6' tall but my shoes look bigger than this pic


I wear a 4 and am 5' tall.

Everybody's shoes look HUGE to me.  Laughing
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« Reply #52 on: May 07, 2007, 05:42:00 PM »

Thanks for the holiday avi CBB!!! Ange told me you had a crotch rocket waiting for me in the lounge, lol!!!
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« Reply #53 on: May 07, 2007, 05:43:22 PM »

I hate to say this... but my first thought when I saw that picture was ~'he looks like Marmaduke in that picture'.
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« Reply #54 on: May 07, 2007, 05:43:45 PM »

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I looked at the witness statements and it doesn't seem like Paulus was ever asked if he had met Natalee at the casino. Paulus was present at Joran's first statement athough no copies appear to have survived, and pages are missing from the PVDS interviews.


Yep. They didn't wanna know, Spock. Those missing pages in PVDS' statement are very suspicious.
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« Reply #55 on: May 07, 2007, 05:45:43 PM »

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I have a minor theory on the shoe size.

You know how a size 6 dress is now a size 4?

An XL shirt is now XXL?

I have a feeling that shoes are also sized the same..

I used to always wear a size 10.5.. now I wear an 11 or 11.5 or even once in a while, if the shoes are Italian, a 9.5.

Sizes for clothes and shoes seem to be totally up to the manufacturer's discretion.

I have shirts from Gold's Gym that are a medium...and I used to always wear a large dress shirt, but that to have some cut because my neck is 18.5 inches around. Now I have to always buy XL shirts no matter who makes them...and still have them cut.

Now if Joran says he wears a 14.. that could easily be a 12 or a 15... depends on the shoe and the manufacturer.


I have been wearing a size 13 for the last 15 years at least.  Sometimes a wear a 12 depending on the manufacturer.  Never a 14.  I have a good friend that wears a 14 and it makes my 13 look small.
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« Reply #56 on: May 07, 2007, 05:46:23 PM »

I used to wear a large shirt and now I wear an XL.  My pants also got bigger for some reason………   Confused
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« Reply #57 on: May 07, 2007, 05:47:52 PM »

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I hate to say this... but my first thought when I saw that picture was ~'he looks like Marmaduke in that picture'.



LOL Rob. Same blockhead. You could hammer horseshoes on that flat spot.
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« Reply #58 on: May 07, 2007, 05:48:32 PM »

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those shoes are bigger than his head
and we know his head is big


size 14

BET THE FARM  Cool




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« Reply #59 on: May 07, 2007, 05:51:41 PM »

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well, i think he wears a size 14 ish

and i think he scrunched his toes to fit into a size 10.5

ALE should have checked to see if his HEAL was in the back of the shoe

they are INCOMPETANT  Mad


Robots- He is closer to wearing a 12-13-14-15 than a 9.5- 10.5 or 115...imo...


You may be right, so hard to tell from a picture.  The thing is, its really not that important to figure out his shoe size, this is something that can easily be confirmed when the time comes for trial or whatever.  Its not like his foot is going to shrink or anything.  Its probably pretty much done growing too I would guess.
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