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Topic: Lively Case Discussion #615 5/7 - 5/8/2007 (Read 169092 times)
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Elaine
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May 07, 2007, 11:18:28 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
- after 5 sessions, I was supposed to have the last session with him and my parents on June 14th 2005. The psychiatrist told my parents that I had finished the treatment and she was of the opinion that I have moved forward. She did say that she thought I am the kind of person that needs a clear structure. Joran says that he does not like psychiatrists and that he thinks it is a lot of nonsense, but hey, he had no choice but to go.
Translated: Since I was in Kia on June 14th, my psychiatrist decided it was too late for me anyway.
Yes indeed! And probably didn't want to see him privately, because, being a psychiatrist she would have figured out a lot about this case by seeing him, and didn't want to get drug into court. IMO
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Okay, this is bugging me. Joran dictates a “book” completely of his own volition to someone and I assume he maintains complete editorial control until publication. Yet, he can not keep his story straight from paragraph to paragraph, much less between chapters. Plus, what has been written portrays a very manipulative, egotistical sociopath hell bent on telling of his nefarious exploits.
I rambled, but my question is how did ALE manage to spend all that time with him and not get answers? All they had to do is ask him and he would have told them what a great accomplishment it was for him to rape and kill an American tourist.
You have to WANT to get answers.
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I apologize bleachedblack .... I did not notice that you had already posted the Greta quote.
Janet
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May 07, 2007, 11:19:21 PM »
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Quote from: "robots"
i better write this small..but just because the TAG in the sneaker says SIZE 10..that doesnt make it a size 10
as with everything in this case..
things are NEVER as they Appear
stepping off my shoebox
AND Robots are not always Robots........
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May 07, 2007, 11:19:40 PM »
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Joran is eat up with the ME syndrome. He thinks the whole world revolves around him & what he wants. I can just see him in my mids eye when he is told No. Goes into a rage like a wild animal. All the more reason he should have been corrected as a child instead of getting his way. For this I blame his so called piss poor excuse for parents. JMO
You just described some of the characteristics of a sociopath. I don't know if they're born or bred, but I do think he's been allowed to do what he wants with little discipline. But then again, even with discipline, he'd still have a self-centered personality that cares nothing about others, but he might have learned not to be destructive towards dogs, brothers and women. The abuse of women thing......I just don't know what causes it. Freudian. Is it about mama or papa or is it learned from them? I say lock him up and analyze it.
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May 07, 2007, 11:22:23 PM »
Paulus insulted quite a few people in the Netherlands as well by his arrogance. After talking about the specialized Equipment,Forensic units and Investigators in his back yard.
Our house was a sort of resort… They’d put tables outside… Chairs… Uh drinks… Uh lots of food… Uh… Making lots of pleasure… These uhh, these uhh, these boys and girls had the time of their lives and uhh… And I welcome it to them off course…
Certainly looks like a guy that is too smart for them. 23 months ahead of them and doesnt have to answer one question. The KLPD has to be frustrated.
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if it is even possible... this BOOK makes the ARUBA LAW
UN-ENFORCEMENT look even more EVIL, STUPID
take your pick
EVIL or STUPID
it makes em look even WORSE
didnt think it was possible
this is why the DUTCH are gonna put a BOOT in joran, k2, paulus, and guido
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May 07, 2007, 11:24:43 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Okay, this is bugging me. Joran dictates a “book” completely of his own volition to someone and I assume he maintains complete editorial control until publication. Yet, he can not keep his story straight from paragraph to paragraph, much less between chapters. Plus, what has been written portrays a very manipulative, egotistical sociopath hell bent on telling of his nefarious exploits.
I rambled, but my question is how did ALE manage to spend all that time with him and not get answers? All they had to do is ask him and he would have told them what a great accomplishment it was for him to rape and kill an American tourist.
You have to WANT to get answers.
Ain't that the truth! I'm thinking this guy was running his mouth from the beginning and it was all about damage control. It is obvious he doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut!
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Robots, I don't know if she comes in different colors, but I'd like you to meet the Wakamaru Companion Robot:
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Quote from: "Easywriter"
Okay, this is bugging me. Joran dictates a “book” completely of his own volition to someone and I assume he maintains complete editorial control until publication. Yet, he can not keep his story straight from paragraph to paragraph, much less between chapters. Plus, what has been written portrays a very manipulative, egotistical sociopath hell bent on telling of his nefarious exploits.
I rambled, but my question is how did ALE manage to spend all that time with him and not get answers? All they had to do is ask him and he would have told them what a great accomplishment it was for him to rape and kill an American tourist.
........then there were the specially trained psychological interviewers(sorry I don't recall theie official titles) that were sent to the prison to interrogate him, and then tooo the FBI was witnessing Jorans interrogations. It is a big question mark to me too. They must have recorded some of these interogations? Even Dompig made the comment about Joran appearing to be "Gods gift to mother-in-laws". I also remember an FBI comment about him being one of the strangest people psycologically they have come across...does anyone remember that?
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Robots, I don't know if she comes in different colors, but I'd like you to meet the Wakamaru Companion Robot:
is she a good robot ?????
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Elaine
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if it is even possible... this BOOK makes the ARUBA LAW
UN-ENFORCEMENT look even more EVIL, STUPID
take your pick
EVIL or STUPID
it makes em look even WORSE
didnt think it was possible
this is why the DUTCH are gonna put a BOOT in joran, k2, paulus, and guido
Doesn't it though!~I wonder how they feel after reading his book, and thinking..."We couldn't get this guy."
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Buckeye
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Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Okay, this is bugging me. Joran dictates a “book” completely of his own volition to someone and I assume he maintains complete editorial control until publication. Yet, he can not keep his story straight from paragraph to paragraph, much less between chapters. Plus, what has been written portrays a very manipulative, egotistical sociopath hell bent on telling of his nefarious exploits.
I rambled, but my question is how did ALE manage to spend all that time with him and not get answers? All they had to do is ask him and he would have told them what a great accomplishment it was for him to rape and kill an American tourist.
........then there were the specially trained psychological interviewers(sorry I don't recall theie official titles) that were sent to the prison to interrogate him, and then tooo the FBI was witnessing Jorans interrogations. It is a big question mark to me too. They must have recorded some of these interogations? Even Dompig made the comment about Joran appearing to be "Gods gift to mother-in-laws". I also remember an FBI comment about him being one of the strangest people psycologically they have come across...does anyone remember that?
Yeh...and that he rules the house.
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Quote from: "robots"
if it is even possible... this BOOK makes the ARUBA LAW
UN-ENFORCEMENT look even more EVIL, STUPID
take your pick
EVIL or STUPID
it makes em look even WORSE
didnt think it was possible
this is why the DUTCH are gonna put a BOOT in joran, k2, paulus, and guido
I hope so.
Do you think she's pretty?
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BB, I don't think the behavior specialists could figure out what made him tick. More proof to me that when he was born they threw out the baby & gave to Slootytoots the afterbirth.
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BB, I don't think the behavior specialists could figure out what made him tick. More proof to me that when he was born they threw out the baby & gave to Slootytoots the afterbirth.
YAP LOL!
I got behind.. So HOWDY to everyone that came in!
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LilPuma
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Quote from: "robots"
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Robots, I don't know if she comes in different colors, but I'd like you to meet the Wakamaru Companion Robot:
is she a good robot ?????
Don't know, just found her online. Didn't even check Myspace.
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I was taught Sociopaths were born and could not be treated.The robot is cute.
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I also remember an FBI comment about him being one of the strangest people psycologically they have come across...does anyone remember that?
Dompig said the FBI diagnosed pathological liar and sociopath.
The Dutch youth interrogators said...unusual...or unique...or something like that. I will have to look for that article.
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If the Dutch do nothing, it will be a serious black eye for their investigative skills. Are they willing to quietly let this case languish, or will they prove that they deserve the accolades some have given NFI?
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