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Elaine
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Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
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Wonder whatever happend to TTOWNMIKE?
Whatchatawkinbout?
I saw one time where sandrak was asking people if Easy =TTownmike LMAO!!
LOL Elaine! I guess when I wrote sotospeak.. it reminded me of him!
I thought he was a good guy who cared a lot about this case.
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Looks like another accidental death or suicide in Aruba.
Man dies in police car
WILLEMSTAD – A man that was arrested yesterday for robbery, died in the police car. The police say that the man was probably under the influence of drugs. The body of the 48-year old Gershwin La Croes that lived in De Savaan, is confiscated for autopsy.
The police of Rio Canario received reporting of a robbery at a snack at the Rooseveltweg yesterday afternoon. When they arrived at the location, they found a man that was acting very agitated. They decided to take him to the cells in Punda, so he can calm down. When they arrived they realized that La Croes had died. The police doctor certified the victim’s death. The body was confiscated and the investigation continues.
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One of my theories for a long time has been that this whole mess goes WAY up the line -- all the way to the US State Department and The Hague.
It became very clear to these two entities that the Aruban Government was in this up to their eyeballs.
You just can't go in and bring down the entire government of a country without a LOT of wrangling and planning by BOTH the U.S. and The Netherlands. Remember, Aruba is still very much teetering with their own Sovereignty issues. Throw in Chavez in the mix and you have a very precarious situation there.
While justice in the Natalee Holloway case is a concern -- unfortunately the whole Sovereignty issue is what is driving the involvement of the Dutch.
( my theory is this will all be resolved eventually -- but it will be HUGE in the aftermath)
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Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
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Wonder whatever happend to TTOWNMIKE?
Whatchatawkinbout?
I saw one time where sandrak was asking people if Easy =TTownmike LMAO!!
LOL Elaine! I guess when I wrote sotospeak.. it reminded me of him!
I thought he was a good guy who cared a lot about this case.
Me too~!! He was funny..
I always said it was nice to see men posting about the case.. Still will
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Looks like another accidental death or suicide in Aruba.
Man dies in police car
WILLEMSTAD – A man that was arrested yesterday for robbery, died in the police car. The police say that the man was probably under the influence of drugs. The body of the 48-year old Gershwin La Croes that lived in De Savaan, is confiscated for autopsy.
The police of Rio Canario received reporting of a robbery at a snack at the Rooseveltweg yesterday afternoon. When they arrived at the location, they found a man that was acting very agitated. They decided to take him to the cells in Punda, so he can calm down. When they arrived they realized that La Croes had died. The police doctor certified the victim’s death. The body was confiscated and the investigation continues.
Oh my gosh!
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"Believe me, we were looking for anything to throw him, to keep him in jail," says Dompig. "The only thing he admitted to was that he was fondling [her] sexually, like kissing, touching her. And there was no sexual in terms of penetration or whatever, really having sex with her.”
After nearly two dozen lengthy interrogations, the police still had no confession and had found no body. So on Sep. 3, 2005, Joran van der Sloot was released to his parents.
"This young man, a 17-year-old-boy was able to withstand 90 days in prison, and undergo specialized interrogation, and they weren't able to get a confession from him," says attorney Arlene Shipper.
"What does that say ?" Roberts asks.
"It can mean two things — either he's innocent, he really doesn't know what happened, or he's a genius," she replied.
Joran van der Sloot has denied any wrongdoing, but he has done nothing to dispel Dompig’s suspicions.
Asked what FBI profilers told Dompig about van der Sloot's psychological profile, he says, "They use the word sociopath. And the fact that he was capable of lying about basically everything.
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Quote from: "*******"
Looks like another accidental death or suicide in Aruba.
Man dies in police car
WILLEMSTAD – A man that was arrested yesterday for robbery, died in the police car. The police say that the man was probably under the influence of drugs. The body of the 48-year old Gershwin La Croes that lived in De Savaan, is confiscated for autopsy.
The police of Rio Canario received reporting of a robbery at a snack at the Rooseveltweg yesterday afternoon. When they arrived at the location, they found a man that was acting very agitated. They decided to take him to the cells in Punda, so he can calm down. When they arrived they realized that La Croes had died. The police doctor certified the victim’s death. The body was confiscated and the investigation continues.
The body was confiscated and the investigation continues.
I have heard fo weapons.. drugs.. alcohol.. etc being confiscated.. but a body? geezeeeeeeeeee.
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Elaine
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May 07, 2007, 11:53:45 PM »
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "*******"
Looks like another accidental death or suicide in Aruba.
Man dies in police car
WILLEMSTAD – A man that was arrested yesterday for robbery, died in the police car. The police say that the man was probably under the influence of drugs. The body of the 48-year old Gershwin La Croes that lived in De Savaan, is confiscated for autopsy.
The police of Rio Canario received reporting of a robbery at a snack at the Rooseveltweg yesterday afternoon. When they arrived at the location, they found a man that was acting very agitated. They decided to take him to the cells in Punda, so he can calm down. When they arrived they realized that La Croes had died. The police doctor certified the victim’s death. The body was confiscated and the investigation continues.
Oh my gosh!
Who are The police of Rio Canario , I wonder?
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May 07, 2007, 11:55:02 PM »
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Quote from: "Easywriter"
If the Dutch do nothing, it will be a serious black eye for their investigative skills. Are they willing to quietly let this case languish, or will they prove that they deserve the accolades some have given NFI?
i still say the more time they take initially is good news
but thats just me
Something just seems very out of kilter in all of this.
It has to be larger than one missing girl.
Countries do not buckle to their knees over such cases. There is something going on here that is not obvious……
Easy ... I agree.
I contend that Aruba/Holland have hit a road block but there is no turning back ... the implications of solving the Natalee Holloway case are so far reaching. The fallout is too huge to comprehend when you consider ... Paulus Van der Sloot … the sons of the elite … those at all levels of the Dutch/Aruban administrations who participated in the coverup; the judiciary as well as drugs … gambling … prostitution … pornography …money laundering …
IMO
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Isn't Willemstad in Curacao?
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May 07, 2007, 11:57:09 PM »
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
If the Dutch do nothing, it will be a serious black eye for their investigative skills. Are they willing to quietly let this case languish, or will they prove that they deserve the accolades some have given NFI?
i still say the more time they take initially is good news
but thats just me
Something just seems very out of kilter in all of this.
It has to be larger than one missing girl.
Countries do not buckle to their knees over such cases. There is something going on here that is not obvious……
Easy ... I agree.
I contend that Aruba/Holland have hit a road block but there is no turning back ... the implications of solving the Natalee Holloway case are so far reaching. The fallout is too huge to comprehend when you consider ... Paulus Van der Sloot … the sons of the elite … those at all levels of the Dutch/Aruban administrations who participated in the coverup; the judiciary as well as drugs … gambling … prostitution … pornography …money laundering …
IMO
Janet
YEPPERS Janet
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I think the Dutch are putting together their case. They're waiting for results from NFI to support their case. They may be going over Joran's book and the diaries taken from the VDS residence and putting it together with what they and ALE have collected. They could also be going over the hard drive they took, assuming they copied it before giving it back. Could be they are talking to people but doing it quietly. I can see them wearing floppy hats and flipflops and Hard Rock t-shirts so no one even knows who they are as they move silently around the island doing their work to take down the perps, the drug dealers, the corrupt officials. The Queen could be getting a fax soon telling her which judge's robes need to be yanked. With all the corruption and complicity on the island, they have to be very quiet and careful.
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Isn't Willemstad in Curacao?[/quote
Yep Yap.. I just googled it and came up with a list..
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Willemstad+in+Curacao&btnG=Google+Search
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"Believe me, we were looking for anything to throw him, to keep him in jail," says Dompig. "The only thing he admitted to was that he was fondling [her] sexually, like kissing, touching her. And there was no sexual in terms of penetration or whatever, really having sex with her.”
After nearly two dozen lengthy interrogations, the police still had no confession and had found no body. So on Sep. 3, 2005, Joran van der Sloot was released to his parents.
"This young man, a 17-year-old-boy was able to withstand 90 days in prison, and undergo specialized interrogation, and they weren't able to get a confession from him," says attorney Arlene Shipper.
"What does that say ?" Roberts asks.
"It can mean two things — either he's innocent, he really doesn't know what happened, or he's a genius," she replied.
Joran van der Sloot has denied any wrongdoing, but he has done nothing to dispel Dompig’s suspicions.
Asked what FBI profilers told Dompig about van der Sloot's psychological profile, he says, "They use the word sociopath. And the fact that he was capable of lying about basically everything.
http://tinyurl.com/3bzhte
I think that after the night of the confession, Daddy got word to him to just sit tight and to shut up...and eventually he would get out.
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Bringing one of my comments over from page 49 of the previous discussions.
"Not only does it connect Paulus to Natalee...If you all noticed in the picture of Paulus at the gate speaking with Greta and Beth, Paulus is wearing the same "white" shirt he wore the night before. Guess in a hurry to get out front he just grabbed the first thing available to wear.
The bastage!"
Should of provided picture with this post.
THE CREASE IN THE RIGHT SLEEVE IS IDENTICAL ..............
THE WATCH IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE .............
THERE IS NO DOUBT .............
ITS PAULUS IN THE CASINO PHOTO ...........
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I think the Dutch are putting together their case. They're waiting for results from NFI to support their case. They may be going over Joran's book and the diaries taken from the VDS residence and putting it together with what they and ALE have collected. They could also be going over the hard drive they took, assuming they copied it before giving it back. Could be they are talking to people but doing it quietly. I can see them wearing floppy hats and flipflops and Hard Rock t-shirts so no one even knows who they are as they move silently around the island doing their work to take down the perps, the drug dealers, the corrupt officials. The Queen could be getting a fax soon telling her which judge's robes need to be yanked. With all the corruption and complicity on the island, they have to be very quiet and careful.
I hope you are right! I do not care what the VDS are saying... they are sweating right about now.
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Quote from: "LilPuma"
I think the Dutch are putting together their case. They're waiting for results from NFI to support their case. They may be going over Joran's book and the diaries taken from the VDS residence and putting it together with what they and ALE have collected. They could also be going over the hard drive they took, assuming they copied it before giving it back. Could be they are talking to people but doing it quietly. I can see them wearing floppy hats and flipflops and Hard Rock t-shirts so no one even knows who they are as they move silently around the island doing their work to take down the perps, the drug dealers, the corrupt officials. The Queen could be getting a fax soon telling her which judge's robes need to be yanked. With all the corruption and complicity on the island, they have to be very quiet and careful.
Awesome thoughts Puma~!! We can only hope!
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I watched that video last night..I noticed Paulus was hittin the drink quite a few times in the short clip. I wonder if Paulus was boozin it up that night?
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Hiya Widget. How are the girls? Have they got you trained yet?
I agree it is Paulus in the casino. If not (God forbid) he has a twin on that rock.
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Quote from: "dkpen"
Bringing one of my comments over from page 49 of the previous discussions.
"Not only does it connect Paulus to Natalee...If you all noticed in the picture of Paulus at the gate speaking with Greta and Beth, Paulus is wearing the same "white" shirt he wore the night before. Guess in a hurry to get out front he just grabbed the first thing available to wear.
The bastage!"
Should of provided picture with this post.
THE CREASE IN THE RIGHT SLEEVE IS IDENTICAL ..............
THE WATCH IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE .............
THERE IS NO DOUBT .............
ITS PAULUS IN THE CASINO PHOTO ...........
I know you are behind. and I agree. the shirt is identical..the HAIRLINEs that Kermit.. Rob and Klaas posted are identical. A grade school child IMO could tell the same.
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