Lively Case Discussion #617 5/10 - 5/11/2007

[Tamikosmom]

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The "Diario," a local daily newspaper, is reporting that a human blood sample found in a car at the residence of one of the teens in custody — the 17-year-old son of a high-ranking island judicuary official — is now being sent to the U.S. and will be tested for a possible match to Natalee, whose mother gave a blood sample to investigators.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html

Something is not right.  The above FOX NEWS article was dated Saturday, June 11, 2005 ... the same day that the Aruban Prime Minister announced that blood was found in Deepak's vehicle.  The VDS' vehicles were not impounded until June 15, 2005 ...  the day that the search warrant was exercised ... the day the Bob Witt reduced the scope of the search to only Joran's apartment.


Beth Twitty
NANCY GRACE
October 4, 2005.

GRACE: ... Back to Beth Twitty, Natalee`s mom. I want to talk to you about the prime minister`s statement, the Aruban prime minister, who went public and stated there was blood found in the car. Remember?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Yes, absolutely.

GRACE: What happened?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Absolutely. That`s what I would love to know. On June 11, he states on international media in front of me -- I had no idea what he was about to disclose -- that there was blood in the Kalpoes` vehicle, there was DNA, there was blood. Where is that? Even (INAUDIBLE) went so far to cut interior portions from the car -- the back seat, the ceiling. You know, what happened with that?


FOX NEWS
June 15, 2005

Two police officers walked through the Van Der Sloot family's one-story, yellow-beige home, while others guarded the entranceway. A blue sport utility vehicle and a red Jeep were also towed from the property.

[robots]

'Natalee is not on the island, and he knows it and so do the people that gave him the info"


       


if they know it, then we need some answers


<----------waiting patiently

thanks rob

[Rob]

Rob

Looking forward to that reading.  Did you notice the FP post that Justicefor Natalee quoted yesterday.  From the pilot site Val (supposedly) went to that night??  It shows currents, etc.  It's not just a gaming site.

Hi Buckeye-
No, I did not notice that. I *think* I had a few glasses of wine and didn't notice too much..    

[JusticeforNatalee]

FWIW, NO amount of plastic surgery can
make Julia beautiful because her ugliness
emanates from within.

[Peaches]

Rob

Looking forward to that reading.  Did you notice the FP post that Justicefor Natalee quoted yesterday.  From the pilot site Val (supposedly) went to that night??  It shows currents, etc.  It's not just a gaming site.

Hi Buckeye-
No, I did not notice that. I *think* I had a few glasses of wine and didn't notice too much..    

Isn't Andres Meneses, the airplane photographer, also involved with a virtual pilot site?

[robots]

when they were looking at the site for pilots

that was the night she was "disappeared"


correct ?


im just an amateur detective robots.. but i think she is still on the island

[Rob]

'Natalee is not on the island, and he knows it and so do the people that gave him the info"


       


if they know it, then we need some answers


<----------waiting patiently

thanks rob

No problem Robots-

[robots]

'Natalee is not on the island, and he knows it and so do the people that gave him the info"


       


if they know it, then we need some answers


<----------waiting patiently

thanks rob

No problem Robots-

 

[Buckeye]

Rob

Looking forward to that reading.  Did you notice the FP post that Justicefor Natalee quoted yesterday.  From the pilot site Val (supposedly) went to that night??  It shows currents, etc.  It's not just a gaming site.

Hi Buckeye-
No, I did not notice that. I *think* I had a few glasses of wine and didn't notice too much..    

Isn't Andres Meneses, the airplane photographer, also involved with a virtual pilot site?

Yeh...something involved with the flight simulation (or gaming?) site.

[Buckeye]

FWIW, NO amount of plastic surgery can
make Julia beautiful because her ugliness
emanates from within.

I agree....and...it appears to be an inherited trait.

[Buckeye]

when they were looking at the site for pilots

that was the night she was "disappeared"


correct ?


im just an amateur detective robots.. but i think she is still on the island

Yep...Val (???) was on that night ?2:40 ?

[robots]

when they were looking at the site for pilots

that was the night she was "disappeared"


correct ?


im just an amateur detective robots.. but i think she is still on the island

Yep...Val (???) was on that night ?2:40 ?

yep,,  (????)  is correct

if that was Val, i will eat my new shoes  

[Buckeye]

when they were looking at the site for pilots

that was the night she was "disappeared"


correct ?


im just an amateur detective robots.. but i think she is still on the island

Yep...Val (???) was on that night ?2:40 ?

yep,,  (????)  is correct

if that was Val, i will eat my new shoes  

just checked  forum.x-plane.org  3:07.  Your shoes are safe, in my book.  

[robots]

when they were looking at the site for pilots

that was the night she was "disappeared"


correct ?


im just an amateur detective robots.. but i think she is still on the island

Yep...Val (???) was on that night ?2:40 ?

yep,,  (????)  is correct

if that was Val, i will eat my new shoes  

just checked  forum.x-plane.org  3:07.  Your shoes are safe, in my book.  

whewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[Anna]

FWIW, NO amount of plastic surgery can
make Julia beautiful because her ugliness
emanates from within.

Good Morning, Monkeys!

Yes,

Beauty is only skin deep
But ugliness goes to the bone!

 

[Tamikosmom]

TJ Ward - Private Investigator
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
November 14, 2005

WARD: We think he has played a role in the cover up of her disappearance.

COSBY: How strong do you also still believe that the three boys played a role too from everything that you are getting?

WARD: We believe the boys are directly involved. And again, our theory is that something happened to Natalee, either whem she stopped breathing, had a heart attack or whatever.
 
And in the course of that happening, we think Paul Van der Sloot played a part in the after effect of that in the removal and concealing of Natalee Holloway.

[San]

Here is a slightly clearer screen shot from a CBS video dated June 9th, 2005.  It must have been done right before Deepak's car was towed:

{Edited}

I'm really wondering if we should be concentrating more of this car though:

Klaas, I agree that we should be concentrating on the Sloot car.  I don't want to get graphic but I would like to know where the blood was found in their car.  Was it in the back seat or in the trunk.  If it was in the trunk I think Natalee was dead and if it was in the back seat she could have possibly been alive and severely injured.  JMO.

And to complicate things in my mind even more   -- whenever I see this particular pic of daddy dearest, it highly resembles the blurry picture we have of the man driving the psychedelic van  (L, we're told)  

Exactly that was Paulus driving that van.  Why would a man like this be driving a van like that.  Here is another question and I know it sounds crazy but could that photo be photoshoped.

[San]

Morning San... reading before work but my memory is that blood was found on the roof panel (inside) of the car.  

Have a great day!

Hi Beans!  I believe you are right.   Blood on the headliner.  We later discussed how easy it would be to pull a headliner and replace it.

I remember them saying the blood on the roof panel but which car was that.  Last night we were discussing blood that was found in a car that belong to Paulus.

[Anna]

Rob,
Can you check with TJ on how sure he is about this source.

I am always skeptical of anyone telling us to move along, nothing to see here, go any place else besides the island.

They want to get rid of us too badly and I think lots of people would lie to make the media coverage and scrutiny of their activities go away.

Don't need any more wild goose chases.   Wasn't TJ the source for a couple of those like the rumor Deepak was in trouble with the police in Suriname for something similar and the "witness" that saw their car circling around condos in the racket club area?  

But I was hoping he had spoken personally with whomever did the back hoe work and poured the concrete.  I don't trust local Aruban sources very much in the first place but with second hand information, they are about worthless.

.

[klaasend]

NEW FRONT PAGE POST (linking to the summary from Ramm of his book):

Joran Van Der Sloot’s Book … Think You Have heard it All?

http://tinyurl.com/2njkl7