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Spock
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Lively Case Discussion #618 5/11 - 5/12/2007
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Reply #680 on:
May 12, 2007, 06:26:52 PM »
From the book:
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After that Joran told me that Deepak, Satish and he didn't drop of the missing girl at the Holiday Inn Hotel, but that the four of them had driven to the beach north of the Mariott Hotel. The girl fell multiple times on the way to the beach. Joran told me that at some point the girl didn't recover anymore and that they had left her on the beach.
Arashi Beach, by the lighthouse, in the area of the painted rocks.
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May 12, 2007, 06:34:31 PM »
http://www.quantifiedmarketing.com/success_stories/article_516.php
CARLOS N' CHARLIES - ARUBA
Situation:
In May 2005, the Carlos ‘n Charlie’s in Aruba faced a media crisis with the disappearance of Birmingham, Alabama teen Natalee Holloway. Because she was last seen at Carlos ‘n Charlie’s, the restaurant’s name appeared in more than 40,000 print articles and was mentioned on every major U.S. national news broadcast within the first four days of her disappearance. The majority of the information the media was given about Carlos ‘n Charlie’s and the situation at hand was not factual.
Solution:
Within 36 hours of Natalee Holloway’s disappearance, Quantified Marketing Group had a crisis communications specialist on-site to provide information and facilitate interviews with the numerous reporters visiting the restaurant. QMG also recommended that the restaurant donate $5,000 to the reward fund, which demonstrated Carlos ‘n Charlie’s support of the cause.
Result:
Because of our willingness to cooperate with the media and provide factual information, the overall perception of Carlos ‘n Charlie’s (in this situation) changed quickly from negative to neutral. QMG’s public relations specialists were able to guide the restaurant managers through interviews to correct some of the misconceptions about what happened that evening, which has continued to receive international print and broadcast coverage.
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Reply #682 on:
May 12, 2007, 06:35:21 PM »
Quote from: "Spock"
From the book:
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After that Joran told me that Deepak, Satish and he didn't drop of the missing girl at the Holiday Inn Hotel, but that the four of them had driven to the beach north of the Mariott Hotel. The girl fell multiple times on the way to the beach. Joran told me that at some point the girl didn't recover anymore and that they had left her on the beach.
Arashi Beach, by the lighthouse, in the area of the painted rocks.
Yep Spock - that would be my guess too
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msmarple
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Lively Case Discussion #618 5/11 - 5/12/2007
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May 12, 2007, 06:38:03 PM »
Quote from Joran's book, supposedly quoting from Freddy's statement:
After that Joran told me that Deepak, Satish and he didn't drop of the missing girl at the Holiday Inn Hotel, but that the four of them had driven to the beach north of the Mariott Hotel. The girl fell multiple times on the way to the beach. Joran told me that at some point the girl didn't recover anymore and that
they
had left her on the beach.
Okay, this is still apples, oranges and mainly lemons.
If Freddy said that Joran said that
they
(J2K? what other "they" is there?) left her on the beach:
- why would DK have said "Ask Freddy. Freddy knows the truth." ?? Because DK could have made such a statement himself.
- DK himself did NOT say, in any statement, that
they
left
her
on the beach, to my knowledge.
I think DK's operational story is that he and Satish left Joran and Natalee on the beach.
Freddy's statement adds nothing but another layer of lies. Either his own lie, or a lie that Joran told him.
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Why did they have to disappear her body?
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary -
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Lifesong
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Reply #684 on:
May 12, 2007, 06:39:58 PM »
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Hoping
lifesong
will find this post. Sorry for the O/T
Frijoli
? You have one in the lounge.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/ls4.gif
Thank you CBB!!! Will add it now & then post a tester to make sure I got it right.
[Finally back from the grocery store - I tell ya - these kids....just fed 'em yesterday and I'll be doggone if they don't want to eat again today, lol!!
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May 12, 2007, 06:40:21 PM »
My Aruba, Curacao and Dominicana plates... Angie has asked to see them before.
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Jeez.. that looks BIG.. I hope I didn't blow the margins again...
for some reason, they never get blown on my laptop.. I must have some type of anti margin blower...
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Joran and Guido..You two are next!!!
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Quote from: "Rob"
Jeez.. that looks BIG.. I hope I didn't blow the margins again...
for some reason, they never get blown on my laptop.. I must have some type of anti margin blower...
Rob - go into your photobucket account for those 2 photos. Edit each one by resizing to the next size smaller. It will automatically fix them here in the forum.
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BTgirl
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Rob is gonna be in BIG trouble now!
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robots
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Rob is gonna be in BIG trouble now!
is he a little skerrrrrrred of klass also ?
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Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Rob is gonna be in BIG trouble now!
is he a little skerrrrrrred of klass also ?
If he's smart, he is!
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Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Rob"
Jeez.. that looks BIG.. I hope I didn't blow the margins again...
for some reason, they never get blown on my laptop.. I must have some type of anti margin blower...
Rob
- go into your photobucket account for those 2 photos. Edit each one by resizing to the next size smaller. It will automatically fix them here in the forum.
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robots
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Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Rob is gonna be in BIG trouble now!
is he a little skerrrrrrred of klass also ?
If he's smart, he is!
yep,, its Anna that we are not skeeeeeeeeeeeeered of
hehehehehee
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Rob
- it's a bad sign when the boss has to yell at you to get your attention.
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Lively Case Discussion #618 5/11 - 5/12/2007
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May 12, 2007, 06:53:00 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
From Scrux - Dugo's translation of the part of Joran's book pertaining to Freddy's statement:
After this they drove to the hotel. When the girl openend the door of the car she fell on the ground.
Just reading back and catching up, but something in this statement popped out at me that I had not considered before.
What if Natalee opened the door of the car and fell
while the car was moving
because she realized she was in danger and was trying to escape? That would explain head injuries, blood on the shoe, and the statements made in the taped conversation between J2K about hitting the girl with the car.
Probably been discussed before, but this just hit me.
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Nobody listens to me, lol
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Quote from: "Bobo2"
Quote from: "klaasend"
From Scrux - Dugo's translation of the part of Joran's book pertaining to Freddy's statement:
After this they drove to the hotel. When the girl openend the door of the car she fell on the ground.
Just reading back and catching up, but something in this statement popped out at me that I had not considered before.
What if Natalee opened the door of the car and fell
while the car was moving
because she realized she was in danger and was trying to escape? That would explain head injuries, blood on the shoe, and the statements made in the taped conversation between J2K about hitting the girl with the car.
Probably been discussed before, but this just hit me.
yep
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Quote from: "Bobo2"
Quote from: "klaasend"
From Scrux - Dugo's translation of the part of Joran's book pertaining to Freddy's statement:
After this they drove to the hotel. When the girl openend the door of the car she fell on the ground.
Just reading back and catching up, but something in this statement popped out at me that I had not considered before.
What if Natalee opened the door of the car and fell
while the car was moving
because she realized she was in danger and was trying to escape? That would explain head injuries, blood on the shoe, and the statements made in the taped conversation between J2K about hitting the girl with the car.
Probably been discussed before, but this just hit me.
It's always possible. Everyone keeps saying there is an element of truth somewhere in their stories.
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