Lively Case Discussion #619 5/12 - 5/13/2007

[Easywriter]

Does Aruba have any traffic laws?  Stop signs?  Red lights?  That small place seems to have a helluva lot of accidents!

All of those islands have mostly traffic circles and they all drive like bats outta you-know too   I remember being on a business trip on Antigua and feeling sure our taxi driver was taking us to our grave   They also paint a big white X on the road where fatalities occur and there were plenty of them !!  

Hey Easy, you have something against tall girls?    

Their papers are just full of accidents everyday!  I figured they must just sorta aim the car and hit the gas!

From what I could see I thought that tall Dutch woman was attractive.  She might make a good, new spokesperson if those Dutch ever start talking!!!!!!  

Easy, picture New Orleans at full-speed ahead.  

That's frightening!  

[Peaches]

I hate them all.

[msmarple]

A couple of other items from today's Diario below.

And yes, auto accidents very prevalent; the paper often has pictures of several. Some Aruba folks (Jossy might be among them; plus Criyio (sp?) poster) have said that traffic accidents are a huge problem there. Lots of DUI and joy riding.

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/5/14/

Pelea formal Diadomingo mainta na Playa!
MARINIERNAN DEN PELEA A ZWAAI MESA RIBA AGENTE POLICIAL
 
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Tabata mainta trempan, cu na altura di “Don Carlos Restaurant” riba Lloyd G. Smith Boulevard, cu poco marinier a confronta problema cu un grupo local.

A start un pelea y mesora yamadanan a cuminza drenta na autoridad. E informe ta mustra cu ta trata aki di un caso serio, y pelea ta bayendo for di man.

Esey tabata suficiente pa Polis sali cu diferente unidad rumbo pa e area. Na momento cu Polis a yega, nan a bin haya e pelea keto bay ta andando. Un di bringadornan den e caso aki un marinier a manda un stul riba un agente.

Mesora polis a dicidi yega cerca pa detene. Pero esaki no a logra, pasobra e marinier a cuminza core na careda bay pariba. Polis a sigui su tras, y despues di un rato otronan a yega cerca y a logra gare.

El a worde hiba Warda di Polis pa nan encarcele. Mientras tanto, a envolvi polis militar den e caso aki Marechaussee a worde envolvi relaciona cu e sucedido. Mas informe no tabata disponible.

A marinier (sailor?) got into a confrontation with a local group at Don Carlos restaurant. Somebody threw a chair, I think at the polis.

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VENEZUELA TA EXIGI DISCULPA DI GELT DEKKER
 
ORANJESTAD(AAN)--- Segun informacionnan te na Hulanda e discurso di Jacob Gelt Dekker durante conferencia internacional di inversionistanan na Corsow, dilanti mas di 400 delegado a bira un topico di publicacion, ya cu segun e informe Venezuela a exigi di e miyonario Gelt Dekker disculpa pa locual el a expresa encuanto Venezuela como narcoestado y president Hugo Chavez como baron di droga.

E informacion ta menciona cu consul di Venezuela na Corsow, Lorenzo Angolillo ta exigi disculpa di Gelt Dekker of pruebanan pa su ponencianan.

Gelt Dekker ta propietario entre otro di hotel Kura Hulanda na Corsow, y como orador durante e conferencia menciona el a describi Corsow como un pais cu ta ser maneha pa politiconan corupto y unda traficacion di droga ta domina economia.

Den su discurso el a haci e expresion cu no a cay na agrado di e consul, encuanto Venezuela cu a califica palabranan di Gelt Dekker como palabranan di un “loco”.

na Corsow tambe e palabranan di Gelt Dekker no a cay na agrado y a conduci na criticanan pisa di entre otro gezaghebber di Corsow Lisa Richards Dindial y prome ministro antiyano Emily de Jongh Elhage.

Aña pasa algun politico hasta a bini cu e opcion pa declara Gelt Dekker como persona non grata riba e isla despues di un columna negativo cu el a publica riba su website di noticianan di aviacion. Nada a sali for di esaki. Awor varios politico ta desea pa Gelt Dekker wordo saca for di Corsow.

Online Pap translation:

venezuela is exigi disculpa of gelt dekker

oranjestad(aan)--- according informacionnan till at the netherlands the discurso of jacob gelt dekker during conferencia internacional of inversionistanan at corsow, fast more of 400 delegate owing to become one topico of publicacion, already cu according the informe venezuela owing to exigi of the miyonario gelt dekker disculpa for locual past owing to expresa encuanto venezuela because; narcoestado y president hugo chavez because; baron of drugs.

the informacion is menciona cu consul of venezuela at corsow, lorenzo angolillo is exigi disculpa of gelt dekker or pruebanan for his ponencianan.

gelt dekker is propietario among another of hotel care for the netherlands at corsow, y because; orador during the conferencia menciona past owing to describi corsow because; one country cu is being maneha for politiconan corupto y where traficacion of drugs is domina economia.

in his discurso past owing to haci the expresion cu not owing to cay at agrado of the consul, encuanto venezuela cu owing to califica words of gelt dekker because; words of one “loco”.

at corsow also the words of gelt dekker not owing to cay at agrado y owing to conduci at criticanan pisa of among another gezaghebber of corsow lisa richards dindial y first ministro antiyano emily de jongh elhage.

year happen some politico even owing to come cu the opcion for declara gelt dekker because; person non grata on the island after of one columna negative cu past owing to publica on his website of noticianan of aviacion. nothing owing to leave for of this. now several politico is desea for gelt dekker wordo saca for of corsow.

{Would be good to know what this one is all about.}

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[Anna]

Good Morning,
Concerning when they were washing Deepak's car, I found this in my notes:

Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject:

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snoopy wrote:
Arubagirl. Good to see you.

Were you the one who said that a neighbor of Deepaks saw his car being washed? If so, what day was it? Was it the night Natalee dis. or the next night? Also if this is the case, who was washing the car? TIA


Arubagirl


It was the same night, the lady only referred to the people washing the car as 'them', so I took it as the brothers.

Getagrip, to me the translation is perfect! And I am really wondering why Diario just doesn't find out just WHO is the actual owner of thecasino.
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So seems it was the same night pretty well verified.

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[Easywriter]

Wouldn’t it be very difficult to substitute a car even in Aruba?  VIN numbers are all over the things and will quickly give a complete history of the car.  My mind just won’t let me rectify the idea that those two could pull something off like that.

[Tiger]

Hi Monkeys,I was just prowling by and wanted to say hello.Robots,my father burned down our garage the same way you burned your chair.Angie,sorry about your sofa,I just had to stretch,and got carried away.I think Guido will not be picked up,because the canary has sung.Mothers day is over

[Kimmy53]

Good Morning Monkeys.  Whhheeewww... just caught up - my eyes are crossed.

Very interesting about the look about at the Kalpoes.  I bet Deepak didn't like the idea of them being there..Boooooohooooooo.

Something is brewing alright.  The pressure is being applied.  I hope they all are shaking in their shoes.

[Anna]

Wouldn’t it be very difficult to substitute a car even in Aruba?  VIN numbers are all over the things and will quickly give a complete history of the car.  My mind just won’t let me rectify the idea that those two could pull something off like that.

Easy,
I think they may have only switched out the interior.  

JMO

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[Easywriter]

Wouldn’t it be very difficult to substitute a car even in Aruba?  VIN numbers are all over the things and will quickly give a complete history of the car.  My mind just won’t let me rectify the idea that those two could pull something off like that.

Easy,
I think they may have only switched out the interior.  

JMO

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There has been so much car talk over the pass several days it has become a little confusing to me.  I know ALE did a lousy job, but I can't see them just impounding a car, without looking at the registration papers and running the tag, etc.

So, the speculation is that Deepak took the car to Automotive Enterprises and had the interior changed out?  Would the owner of that place be willing to stick his neck out that far for Deepak?

[Tylergal]

Wouldn’t it be very difficult to substitute a car even in Aruba?  VIN numbers are all over the things and will quickly give a complete history of the car.  My mind just won’t let me rectify the idea that those two could pull something off like that.

Easy,
I think they may have only switched out the interior.  

JMO

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There has been so much car talk over the pass several days it has become a little confusing to me.  I know ALE did a lousy job, but I can't see them just impounding a car, without looking at the registration papers and running the tag, etc.

So, the speculation is that Deepak took the car to Automotive Enterprises and had the interior changed out?  Would the owner of that place be willing to stick his neck out that far for Deepak?

We are not sure.  However, based on information I have from someone who is in the car rental business internationally, the Kalpoe boys had a family member in the car rental business and they could have been using a rental unit or turned in a rental unit.  If these people own a car rental, they could easily swap cars at will.

[Anna]

Wouldn’t it be very difficult to substitute a car even in Aruba?  VIN numbers are all over the things and will quickly give a complete history of the car.  My mind just won’t let me rectify the idea that those two could pull something off like that.

Easy,
I think they may have only switched out the interior.  

JMO

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There has been so much car talk over the pass several days it has become a little confusing to me.  I know ALE did a lousy job, but I can't see them just impounding a car, without looking at the registration papers and running the tag, etc.

So, the speculation is that Deepak took the car to Automotive Enterprises and had the interior changed out?  Would the owner of that place be willing to stick his neck out that far for Deepak?

I doubt it.  But I do think he would rent them space, lift and tools for a do it yourselfer.  Replacement parts from the rental lot .  Maybe even export the original parts in a different colored car.  Wrecked cars sometimes have such inside of them.  Salvage or whatever it is called.

Maybe that is where the rest of the pimps come into play, helping change out the car.

Just a theory, no proof.  Beth did say something about their having changed out the car one time.

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[Anna]

Don't see the dogs in those photos but a couple of people look like they are carrying either gloves or evidence bags.

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[msmarple]

O/T sort of -

http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=261952&GT1=9951

Potter Author Adds to U.K. Reward Fund
May 13, 12:08 PM EST

Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling has pledged a major contribution to a $3 million reward fund for the safe return of a British girl who has gone missing in Portugal, a Sunday newspaper said.

The News of the World said Rowling had offered the single largest contribution to the fund started by the tabloid newspaper. It called Rowling's pledge "staggering," but said the author asked the amount be kept secret.

Madeleine McCann, 4, disappeared on May 2 after her parents left her, and her brother and sister, both aged 2, alone while they went to a restaurant at Praia da Luz, their vacation resort in Portugal's Algarve region. Portuguese police continue to search for her.

The newspaper said the amount Rowling offered was larger than the $495,000 pledge from Topshop owner Sir Philip Green.

Sir Richard Branson offered $198,000 and American Idol judge Simon Cowell promised $99,000.

Rowling, 41, is one of Britain's richest people with an estimated fortune of $1 billion, thanks to the best-selling novels and films about her boy wizard.

[Tylergal]

O/T sort of -

http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=261952&GT1=9951

Potter Author Adds to U.K. Reward Fund
May 13, 12:08 PM EST

Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling has pledged a major contribution to a $3 million reward fund for the safe return of a British girl who has gone missing in Portugal, a Sunday newspaper said.

The News of the World said Rowling had offered the single largest contribution to the fund started by the tabloid newspaper. It called Rowling's pledge "staggering," but said the author asked the amount be kept secret.

Madeleine McCann, 4, disappeared on May 2 after her parents left her, and her brother and sister, both aged 2, alone while they went to a restaurant at Praia da Luz, their vacation resort in Portugal's Algarve region. Portuguese police continue to search for her.

The newspaper said the amount Rowling offered was larger than the $495,000 pledge from Topshop owner Sir Philip Green.

Sir Richard Branson offered $198,000 and American Idol judge Simon Cowell promised $99,000.

Rowling, 41, is one of Britain's richest people with an estimated fortune of $1 billion, thanks to the best-selling novels and films about her boy wizard.

Let's not hold our breath until Rosie O'Donnell or Barbara Streisand does something noble.

[Kimmy53]

Let's not hold our breath until Rosie O'Donnell or Barbara Streisand does something noble.

     

[nonesuche]

tyler     what a perfect comment !

I love the story of J.K. Rowling's life, she built something from nothing while on welfare. I am further distressed hearing more and more regarding the 'healthy' child trafficking ring which has gone unchecked in and around Portugal. Look what it's taking to get this brought forward, one more life of a beautiful and innocent child likely lost.

[terryd270]

Just taking a break from washing my windows at my house.. Lots of windows to do but 3/4 finished and they do look better..  I bought one of those irobot vacumes and if it works I will buy the floor washer next.. My friend has the lawn mower and she loves it, but I have two acre's and I'm not sure its made for that large a yard.. I think the max is 3/4 and they are really expensive..  Well need to get some water and back to work..

td

[terryd270]

I get confused like Easy with so much information without some kind of sanity checks.. Too many rabbit holes and some are out there to mislead..  Aruba has been playing this game a long time and hopefully someone outside the island will bring it down..

[Peaches]

I'm with you, Terry.  Too many things to keep straight.  Reading it over and over helps.

[crazybabyborg]

Does anyone know the model year of Deepak's car?

Those tail lights are very different from the 2002-2003.