Madeleine McCann Missing-Praia Da Luz, Portugal 3/05/07 #1

[Angiex911dsptchr]

McCanns to Reconstruct May 3rd


http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,30000-1284251,00.html

[MuffyBee]

What I read when I went to some of the UK blogs is quite a bit of critisim of Kate.
It reminded me of FOB and their Beth bashing....

Yes Kat, there is a lot of criticism.  But I also see a lot of folks that seem just absolutely sure there is no way the parents couldn't have anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance.  I don't know how they would know that.  None of us would like to think parents could do something to a child, but our threads and the news are full of it.  Even nice, respectable people.  I read and a lot of times it's the family of the McCann's saying things are "ludicrous".  Actually it isn't ludicrous, it's an investigation.  I hope it is done well and in a professional manner.  Yes, I have seen what would be considered bungling from the Portugese LE, but I also see the Brits were called in with specialists and what about them?  I don't know if the McCann's had anything to do with Madeleine being missing, but to fail to investigate them is wrong.  What is wrong is that it should have been done right up front. Secure the apt., secure the car etc. Have solid interviews with the parents and the group they were with.  Instead, this wasn't done.  And part of it may have been no one had a reason to doubt the McCann's or the people they were with.  Who were the last to see Madeleine?  And then there are the white lies, which has cast doubt.  What happened to the check every 30 min? It went to longer.  Then it went to someone else from the group checked. Then it went to, well, they stood outside the door and listened. It makes the case harder.  I don't like to see the parents disparaged.  I have been posting links and some of the stories, because there may be some information in it.  I don't agree with everything I've posted, just trying to make information available. Some of the papers I read look like gossip rags, and I skip them.  Then there are others that appear somewhat sensational, but will have some possible information and I will post that.  What a terrible mess this is.  Where is Madeleine?   

[Rob]

Check this out- This is from yesterday...(I think we posted this here somewhere) but I noticed something...scoll down if you open the article. The part that interests me is that part between Murat and the McCann's friends. (We have talked about this before). They are at odds with whether or not Murat was around the search area or not on May 3rd 2007. He says he was not there and the friends say he was.

If I saw the police in my neighborhood, I would be curious as to what was going on. When they have showed up here, I always want to know what happened. My friend Chad was killed and we have had some other minor stuff, so when I see the flashing lights, I want to know. I think most people would.

Robert Murat lives within eye sight of the Mark Warner complex. I would image if he was at home, as he and his mother claim, they would be up at 10 pm or so when it was discovered that Maddy was missing. As we know from his phone records he was awake at 11:40 pm and was talking to Sergei Malinka on his cell phone. The police didn't arrive until 10:40 at the earliest (IIRC that correctly).

Now if in the 40 or minutes that it took for the police to arrive I'm sure that word had spread that a little girl was missing. If this were my neighborhood we would all know within 40 minutes and we would be looking for her.

Now, on one hand Murat insists he is not at the scene. It seems odd. Why are he an his mother seemingly the only two people unaware that someone is missing 40 minutes or more after the fact?

If Murat is on the scene, he could almost exonerate himself. If Murat is on the scene, he has a built in alibi. He is there and Maddy is not. According to all that we seem to know, there is no way that Murat could have taken Maddy and did whatever he did to her and hid the body so well that no one has found it in all this time. He could only have taken her and passed her on.  He would have only 40 minutes to accomplish his dastardly deeds and hide the body. It seems impossible.

So why does Murat remove himself from the scene and say he has not been there searching? What is his motive for removing himself (should he have actually been their according to O'Brien, Tanner and Oldfield)? If you remove the friends testimony, there is still someone with no motive to lie and that person places Murat at the scene. That person is a local.

Why does he put himself in the position to be suspect?

Hope I made some sense here.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=481789&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

Portuguese police 'don't have enough evidence to charge Madeleine's parents'
Last updated at 23:45pm on 14th September 2007

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Like the McCanns, Mr Murat has been named an arguido - a formal suspect. Sources close to the couple insist he lied about his whereabouts on 3 May.

Mr O'Brien, Fiona Payne and Rachael Oldfield - all friends of the McCanns - and a Portuguese local have testified[b/] they saw Mr Murat helping the search for Madeleine on 3 May.

Mr Murat, who was born in Britain but grew up in Portugal, lives with his mother in a villa in Praia da Luz near the McCanns' apartment.

He is said to have introduced himself to the three friends on the night of the search, saying: "I'm Robert. Can I help?"

But he has denied this and insisted he spent the evening with his mother and girlfriend.

"I cannot believe Murat is no longer being investigated," said a source close to the McCanns.

"He is lying about being there on the night. They cannot understand why it hasn't been followed up why Murat lied. Kate and Gerry are being scapegoated."

Mr Murat, 33, insists he is the victim of a smear campaign.

He acted as a translator in the early days of the inquiry until suspicions about his behaviour began to grow.

No forensic evidence has linked him to the girl's disappearance.

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[festa]

HEADLINE IS NOT MADELEINE


Body of missing girl believed to have been found

Police in the eastern city of St Gallen say they are nearly certain to have found the body of Ylenia, the five-year-old girl who went missing on July 31.
At a news conference on Saturday, a police spokesman said they were able to make the identification because of the general appearance of the body and jewellery found on it.
 
The corpse of the girl, who was believed to have been abducted, was uncovered by a private individual in a wood between the villages of Oberbüren and Niederwil.
 
The police said the buried body had been apparently dug up by wild animals.

The results of the autopsy are expected to be known by next Tuesday.
 
On the day Ylenia disappeared from a swimming pool in Appenzell, the suspected kidnapper shot at and wounded another man in the chest before turning the gun on himself.

The shooting incident occurred in the same wood where the child's body was found. Passersby stumbled upon the corpse of the 67-year-old Swiss in a nearby forest the next day, where the backpack and bike helmet the girl was carrying when she disappeared were also uncovered.

Police believe the man abducted the girl in a white van with Spanish licence plates. An analysis of DNA taken from the vehicle indicated that it had been used to transport Ylenia.

The man was a resident of eastern Switzerland before resettling with his wife in Spain in 1990.

Immediately following Ylenia's disappearance, Swiss police said investigations were also being carried out in Spain and Portugal, raising speculation of a possible link between her case and that of missing British girl Madeleine McCann.


McCann was last seen in the Algarve holiday region in Portugal at the beginning of May.

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/front/detail/Body_of_missing_girl_found.html?siteSect=105&sid=8221344&cKey=1189874858000&ty=st


IDK all the reasons behind this being a possible connection, but thought I should post FYI.

[festa]

ROB,

Regarding Murat not just telling the police he was there for an alibi, (good point, btw) The only thing I can think is that when your guilty, you lie, he might have been flustered having the friends confront him and lied, AND don't forget Malinka lives (I believe) 2 minutes away also - and the same as you hope you made sense, I hope I was getting what you were trying to say - 


While we are on Murat - can anyone remember how long after Madeleine was missing that he rented a car (it was him, right?) and I am assuming the police went over that car thoroughly, right?

[festa]

Advances in the lab have to be matched by care at the crime scene, say experts Ian Cobain
The Guardian Saturday September 15 2007
Reports of the police case against Kate and Gerry McCann focused in the past week on DNA evidence allegedly discovered in their car and several other locations. Can they be sure the DNA is Madeleine's? And if so, what might it prove? Ian Cobain investigates

The science of genetic fingerprinting has moved with lightning pace since the pioneering days two decades ago when scientists spent weeks poring over spots of blood the size of 5p pieces to match a suspect to a crime. But experts caution that every advance needs to be matched by improvements in the way crime scenes are secured to prevent irrelevant DNA from being introduced or relevant DNA being spread further afield.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/sep/15/crime
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DNA pioneer says case needs other evidence
By Cahal Milmo
Published: 14 September 2007
The pivotal role of DNA fingerprinting in the Madeleine McCann investigation was brought further into question yesterday when the inventor of the forensic technique warned that it was insufficient to provide police with a firm conclusion.

Sir Alec Jeffreys, the scientist who discovered that fragments of genetic material could be used to identify individuals beyond statistical doubt, said he was willing to appear as an expert witness on behalf of Kate and Gerry McCann.

The geneticist and DNA expert would be a powerful advocate for the couple, not least because of his view on the ways that profiling should be used. He has spoken out against the use of a police-controlled, partial DNA databank, calling instead for a database with the DNA of every individual but controlled by an independent agency.

Sir Alec, 57, said the incomplete DNA fingerprint taken from the McCann's hire car, which is understood to be an 88 per cent match for Madeleine, could not be considered as categorically coming from the missing four-year-old.

He told BBC's Newsnight programme: "There are no genetic characters in Madeleine that are not found in at least one other member of the family. So then you have an incomplete DNA profile that could raise a potential problem in assigning a profile to Madeleine given that all other members of that family would have been in that car."

The scientist has described the discovery of DNA fingerprinting as "quite accidental".

Sir Alec was working at Leicester University in 1984 researching inherited illnesses by looking for DNA markers within family members. He realised from one experiment using small sections of DNA that the repeated patterns, unique to each individual, could be applied to a wide range of areas. The chances of two people having the same 20-number sequence are one billion to one.
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Inside the world where experts try to unlock DNA clues
Although the technology has improved vastly, scientists warn that genetic evidence is not a shortcut to the truth
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2436976.ece
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[festa]

McCanns launch new £80,000 advertising blitz to find Madeleine ALIVE

The family of Madeleine McCann is to launch new advertising blitz to to try and find the missing four-year-old alive.


Up to £80,000 will be used from the 'find Madeleine fund' to pay for newspaper, television and billboard adverts which will publicise her disappearance in May.


Beginning in a fortnight, the campaign will focus on Spain, Portugal and other areas of Europe.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=481936&in_page_id=1770

[Tamikosmom]

Check this out- This is from yesterday...(I think we posted this here somewhere) but I noticed something...scoll down if you open the article. The part that interests me is that part between Murat and the McCann's friends. (We have talked about this before). They are at odds with whether or not Murat was around the search area or not on May 3rd 2007. He says he was not there and the friends say he was.

If I saw the police in my neighborhood, I would be curious as to what was going on. When they have showed up here, I always want to know what happened. My friend Chad was killed and we have had some other minor stuff, so when I see the flashing lights, I want to know. I think most people would.

Robert Murat lives within eye sight of the Mark Warner complex. I would image if he was at home, as he and his mother claim, they would be up at 10 pm or so when it was discovered that Maddy was missing. As we know from his phone records he was awake at 11:40 pm and was talking to Sergei Malinka on his cell phone. The police didn't arrive until 10:40 at the earliest (IIRC that correctly).

Now if in the 40 or minutes that it took for the police to arrive I'm sure that word had spread that a little girl was missing. If this were my neighborhood we would all know within 40 minutes and we would be looking for her.

Now, on one hand Murat insists he is not at the scene. It seems odd. Why are he an his mother seemingly the only two people unaware that someone is missing 40 minutes or more after the fact?

If Murat is on the scene, he could almost exonerate himself. If Murat is on the scene, he has a built in alibi. He is there and Maddy is not. According to all that we seem to know, there is no way that Murat could have taken Maddy and did whatever he did to her and hid the body so well that no one has found it in all this time. He could only have taken her and passed her on.  He would have only 40 minutes to accomplish his dastardly deeds and hide the body. It seems impossible.

So why does Murat remove himself from the scene and say he has not been there searching? What is his motive for removing himself (should he have actually been their according to O'Brien, Tanner and Oldfield)? If you remove the friends testimony, there is still someone with no motive to lie and that person places Murat at the scene. That person is a local.

Why does he put himself in the position to be suspect?

Hope I made some sense here.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=481789&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

Portuguese police 'don't have enough evidence to charge Madeleine's parents'
Last updated at 23:45pm on 14th September 2007

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Like the McCanns, Mr Murat has been named an arguido - a formal suspect. Sources close to the couple insist he lied about his whereabouts on 3 May.

Mr O'Brien, Fiona Payne and Rachael Oldfield - all friends of the McCanns - and a Portuguese local have testified[b/] they saw Mr Murat helping the search for Madeleine on 3 May.

Mr Murat, who was born in Britain but grew up in Portugal, lives with his mother in a villa in Praia da Luz near the McCanns' apartment.

He is said to have introduced himself to the three friends on the night of the search, saying: "I'm Robert. Can I help?"

But he has denied this and insisted he spent the evening with his mother and girlfriend.

"I cannot believe Murat is no longer being investigated," said a source close to the McCanns.

"He is lying about being there on the night. They cannot understand why it hasn't been followed up why Murat lied. Kate and Gerry are being scapegoated."

Mr Murat, 33, insists he is the victim of a smear campaign.

He acted as a translator in the early days of the inquiry until suspicions about his behaviour began to grow.

No forensic evidence has linked him to the girl's disappearance.

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Rob

Was there a named spokeperson for the investigation who revealed that there were cell phone records that could possibly implicate Robert Murat and Sergei Malinka or ... did a communication record surfaced that confirmed these allegations?

You know me ... I would appreciated if you could provide the source.

Hey ... there were three emergency vehicles that came into our neighbourhood at about 9:30 PM on Thursday evening ... drove right past our house ... about two/three minutes apart.  I did not leave the house.  If somebody places me at the scene ... they are mistaken or ...  outright lying in an attempt to support an agenda.

Janet

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http://dm.anm.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=481789&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

Senior sources admitted …
A source at the Policia Judiciara said today …
Sources close to the investigation expressed …
Senior police sources say …
Today, a source suggested …

[festa]

Mystery man in McCann photo
Charlse Miranda in Praia da Luz
September 16, 2007 12:49am

AN innocent holiday snap of a family playing with their father has drawn a mystery man into the Madeleine McCann disappearance.

It has also sparked police moves to take formal statements from anybody who may have had anything to do with the McCann family during their ill-fated stay in Portugal.

The broad, bald man appeared in a photo taken by Mrs McCann as Madeleine played with her father Gerry and two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie shortly before her disappearance.

Strangely, the man was again seen walking behind Briton Robert Murat who was a suspect in the case early in the investigation.

Police would say little about the photographed man other than to confirm he has been identified and spoken to, as would a large number of others in coming days. They refused to say how or why he appears to have been everywhere that involved the McCanns.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22426211-2,00.html

[Rob]

ROB,

Regarding Murat not just telling the police he was there for an alibi, (good point, btw) The only thing I can think is that when your guilty, you lie, he might have been flustered having the friends confront him and lied, AND don't forget Malinka lives (I believe) 2 minutes away also - and the same as you hope you made sense, I hope I was getting what you were trying to say - 


While we are on Murat - can anyone remember how long after Madeleine was missing that he rented a car (it was him, right?) and I am assuming the police went over that car thoroughly, right?

Festa- you made sense to me!!!

I believe the car rental happened with in days. His aunt seems to imply that he rented the car to drive to police functions regarding the case. I have no idea why he needed a rental. He two cars at his disposal. I know the article about the exact date is around somewhere. I saw it yesterday.  It might be a green VW van IIRC, but I might be wrong.

[Rob]

Janet- the phone records are available if I am not mistaken.

Sergei Malinka says his number was in Murat's phone and that's how he was pulled in. The police then looked at those records and connected the two were speaking on the phone @ 11:40pm.

I do not have every article in the case, but I have a good many of them. Most of them are posted in this thread.

[festa]

Initially police centered their attention on another citizen of the UK, in that case 33-year-old, one-eyed Robert Murat, who lived with his mother in a villa next to the resort from which Madeleine disappeared.  Murat came to the attention of investigators due to his identifying himself to media as the chief language interpreter between Madeleine's family, the media and the police, along with his statement that he had a daughter that looked like Madeleine who was in the care of his divorced wife.  Murat's home, vehicles, cell phone and computers were subsequently searched by police and his mother, his current girlfriend and his girlfriend's former husband have also been interviewed.  One media report indicated that Murat had child pornography and images related to bestiality on his computer, and that he had telephonic contact within an hour of Madeleine's disappearance with 22-year-old Sergey Malinka, a person Murat identified as a friend and IT person.  Coincidentally Malinka has also been identified as a convicted sex offender.
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:lSYc8OxCDmkJ:today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19234197+madeleine+mccann+malinka+murat+cell+phone&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us


AND REGARDING allegations against Malinka -

 RUSSIAN computer ex­p­ert questioned by police searching for Madeleine McCann is reported to have boasted to former colleagues how he had sex with an under-age girl.
Two women who worked with internet geek Sergey Malinka, 22, alleged he was a “sexual predator” who preyed on young girls.

The claims came as it was reported Malinka had phoned prime-suspect Robert Murat just 30 minutes after Madeleine, four, was snatched from her family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal.

It is understood there were several phone calls between Malinka and Murat, 33, that night. But there is no suggestion that the calls had anything to do with her disappearance.

Yesterday Malinka insisted he was not involved in Madeleine’s kidnap and denied claims he was a paedophile.
 
But a former women colleague at an Algarve internet firm claimed Malinka boasted he had sexual intercourse with a 14-year-old girl.

When she told him he could be arrested she said he simply laughed it off. He also claimed he had seduced the 16-year-old daughter of a Portuguese girlfriend. Another ex-woman work colleague at a different firm told how she found downloaded pornography on his computer. She said: “It was top- shelf stuff, boys’ stuff, blue movies. I didn’t mention it to him.

“He is very clever with computers and knows everything there is to know about them.
 
“But he is also very cocky and not entirely reliable. He wants to earn big money but doesn’t want to put the work in.”

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Police reportedly put oddball Murat under surveillance after he began to interfere with the police search operation.
It was reported that police have also kept watch on Moscow-born Malinka for at least the last five days.

Yesterday Malinka denied claims  he had images of sexual violence on his computer. He said police had returned a laptop and two desktop computers seized from the flat he shares with his parents – half a mile from the McCann’s apartment.

The Russian was released early yesterday after a six-hour quiz. Malinka, who set up a business website for Murat’s property company, denied he had a criminal record.

He said: “The Portuguese press said they found some paedophile content on my computer. That is a lie. Nothing has been found. My equipment has been released and returned to me.“I’m trying to help in any way possible.”

Yesterday Murat’s mother Jen­nifer was being quizzed over his claim he spent the evening with her the night of the abduction.

Mrs Murat was a key figure in the initial search for Madeleine and played a major part in printing and distributing posters of the child.

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:YayZEM0_-VEJ:www.express.co.uk/posts/view/7322/Madeleine:%2BRussian%2B%27is%2Ba%2Bsexual%2Bpredator%27+two+women+who+worked+internet+geek+sergey+malinka&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us

[sharon]

Mystery man in McCann photo
Charlse Miranda in Praia da Luz
September 16, 2007 12:49am

AN innocent holiday snap of a family playing with their father has drawn a mystery man into the Madeleine McCann disappearance.

It has also sparked police moves to take formal statements from anybody who may have had anything to do with the McCann family during their ill-fated stay in Portugal.

The broad, bald man appeared in a photo taken by Mrs McCann as Madeleine played with her father Gerry and two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie shortly before her disappearance.

Strangely, the man was again seen walking behind Briton Robert Murat who was a suspect in the case early in the investigation.

Police would say little about the photographed man other than to confirm he has been identified and spoken to, as would a large number of others in coming days. They refused to say how or why he appears to have been everywhere that involved the McCanns.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22426211-2,00.html

Thanks you, festa.

I just don't believe in coincidences like this. But who knows.

At least the PJ have not issued a statement (yet) that Maddie od'd herself and buried herself at the church prior to throwing herself overboard in the sea.

[Tamikosmom]

Janet- the phone records are available if I am not mistaken.

Sergei Malinka says his number was in Murat's phone and that's how he was pulled in. The police then looked at those records and connected the two were speaking on the phone @ 11:40pm.

I do not have every article in the case, but I have a good many of them. Most of them are posted in this thread.

I have said it before ...

The unsubstantiated allegations against Robert Marat is as troublesome to me as all the unsubstantiated/conflicting allegations against the McCanns.

An official report or ... confirmation from named officials regarding allegations should be taken seriously.  However ... the journalism encompassing conflicting  allegations against Murat and the McCanns are not revealing sources and ... in my opinion ... this could be considered tabloid reporting.

The only substantiated facts that are known in the Madeleine McCann case are ...

1. Robert Murat is considered a formal suspect and ... evidence/documents has not been presented by PLE to the next level ... the prosecutor.

2. The McCanns are considered formal suspects and ... evidence/documents has been presented by the PLE to the prosecutor and ... this evidence/documents has been presented by the prosecutor to an even higher level ... the judge.

Janet

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http://dm.anm.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=481789&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

Portuguese police 'don't have enough evidence to charge Madeleine's parents'
Last updated at 23:45pm on 14th September 2007

Senior sources admitted …
A source at the Policia Judiciara said today …
Sources close to the investigation expressed …
Senior police sources say …
Today, a source suggested …

[Kat_Gram]

McCanns to Reconstruct May 3rd


http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,30000-1284251,00.html

It's September 1/2.
Halfway thru September is good time to have a reconstruct.  

[Tamikosmom]

McCanns to Reconstruct May 3rd


http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,30000-1284251,00.html

Thank you Angie

The reconstruction which includes the McCann's friends definitely makes sense when you consider the close connection these people had with the McCann's on the evening when Madeliene went missing.  However ... should have been the immediate focus ... not almost five months into the investigation.

I listened to the Sky News report and ... the publication's source was identified as ... "The police according to a Portugese paper ...".

Angie ... I would have assumed if there was a press release to the media by a police spokesperson ... more than one Portugese publication would have been privvy to this press release and ... the spokesperson would have been indentified.

I do not get it.   

Anyways ... have a good weekend Angie and ... keep the faith.   

Janet

[Angiex911dsptchr]

September 16, 2007

Richard Branson’s £100,000 to defend McCanns


THE billionaire tycoon Sir Richard Branson is giving £100,000 to create a fighting fund to help the parents of Madeleine McCann to clear their names.

The fund, which will cover both legal and PR expenses, is to seek the support of wealthy businessmen convinced of the McCanns’ innocence. Branson, who has been in regular contact with the couple since their daughter went missing, hopes that it could amass £1m.

The money would mean that members of the McCann family could drop their plans to sell their houses to pay legal costs.

A source close to Branson said: “Sir Richard wants to ensure the McCanns get access to the best legal advice. He has a good instinct on these things. It will help to ensure that they get a fair hearing and that all of the facts become available.

“A number of other individuals will be involved. The fund’s size is potentially unlimited. It will initially look to raise about £1m, but it will be as much as it takes to make the McCanns’ case.”

According to John McCann, Gerry’s brother, they would welcome a court hearing. “Gerry and Kate feel it would be better for them to be charged so they could prove their innocence. In court it would be there for all to see how ridiculous the charges and the evidence are. Unfortunately their reputations have been tarnished and no matter what happens people will think they are guilty,” he said.

According to a YouGov poll for The Sunday Times, only 20% of respondents believe that the McCanns are completely innocent. Nearly half (48%) believe that they could have been responsible for their daughter’s death, even if it was an accident; 32% were unsure. A total of 40% said that the McCanns’ high-profile campaign had made them suspicious, but 50% said that it had not.

There was speculation in the Portuguese press that British detectives will reinterview Kate on behalf of Portuguese police: she would reportedly be asked more than 40 questions, including whether she ever sedated her children and about “bodily fluids” linked to Madeleine in the McCanns’ hire car. There are also plans to reconstruct the night of May 3 to clarify discrepancies in statements.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2461207.ece

[Angiex911dsptchr]

McCanns to Reconstruct May 3rd


http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,30000-1284251,00.html

It's September 1/2.
Halfway thru September is good time to have a reconstruct.  

HI Kat  & JANET


I agree.. should have been done in the beginning and not 4 months later 

Been reading alot today on the mirror forum. Geesh those threads move fast.
I reaad whatever thise NEWS was suppose to be .. well now be announced Monday sometime?
 Seem alot of those posters are "SPECULATING"  perhaps Maddys body has been found OR police know where it is?
I think they are FOS.. IMO. Sometmies it feels like reading RU and FOB..  lol

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Madeleine: Police seal off incinerators
Last updated at 23:27pm on 15th September 2007


Police hunting for Madeleine McCann have sealed off two furnaces at a remote property less than 20 miles from where she disappeared.


Owner Eef Hoos was questioned by Portuguese officers about the missing four-year-old at his home on a rundown farm near the town of Monchique - a 30-minute drive from Praia da Luz - in the middle of July.

The 61-year-old Dutchman operates a business called Creon Starlight, cremating the bodies of dead family pets in huge outdoor ovens built in converted freight containers behind his red-roofed villa.

Although police officers were satisfied he had no involvement in disposing of Madeleine's body, they shut down the units, sealing them with police tape warning that 'violation' of the tape is a criminal offence.

Mr Hoos is now involved in a legal battle to have them reopened.

He said: "They came to speak to me after my neighbours complained about the smell from the furnaces, but they asked if I knew anything about Madeleine McCann.



"Naturally I told them I knew nothing about it. I can swear I had nothing to do with that girl's disappearance."

The development demonstrates that police were considering the possibility that Madeleine had been murdered as long as two months ago, a theory reinforced last week when police sources told a Portuguese newspaper that her body "may no longer exist".

In a bizarre twist, Mr Hoos' chequered past includes a seven-year spell behind bars in the Netherlands after a series of bomb attacks in 1988, which saw one person seriously injured.

He was convicted of conspiring to cause explosions, which led one newspaper to dub him the "Al Capone of The Hague".


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=482051&in_page_id=1770

[Puzzler]

If true, that forensics on hair samples show Madeleine had been regularly sedated, could it be possible that drug(s) built up in her body to the point of causing an overdose?


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t.....437011.ece


From The Times
September 15, 2007
Portuguese police to extend their inquiry to Leicester
David Brown and Steve Bird in Portimão and Patrick Foster
Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann are preparing to travel to Britain to carry out further inquiries, amid concerns that her parents are under an intolerable strain.
Police in Portugal have already been authorised to carry out a series of searches in Praia da Luz and to reinterview key witnesses as they attempt to build a case against Kate and Gerry McCann. A team of Portuguese officers will travel to Leicester to work alongside British officers who are investigating the McCanns.
Two senior Portuguese officers, Guilhermino Encarnação, the director of the PolÍcia Judiciária in Portimão, and Gonçalo Amaral, the co-ordinator of the force, had a three-hour meeting yesterday with Pedro Daniel dos Anjos Frias, the criminal instructional judge who is reviewing the evidence in the case, ahead of plans to order Mrs McCann to return to the Algarve for further questioning.
The Times has learnt that the couple will not be returning to the Algarve until next Wednesday. The judge has a deadline of Thursday to consider requests from the public prosecutors for a series of searches.
Portuguese police are said to believe that they will never find Madeleine’s body, making it difficult to secure a conviction. Investigators think that her body was most probably dumped in a bag weighed down with stones and thrown off a British-owned yacht on the high seas, according to reports in the Diário de NotÍcias newspaper.
The police case against the McCanns includes traces of Madeleine’s body fluids and hair allegedly found in their holiday apartment in Praia da Luz and in a car that was rented by the couple 25 days after her disappearance. Reports have suggested that the finding of Madeleine’s DNA in the boot proves that her corpse had been in there. Officers also believe that there are inconsistencies in statements made by the couple and a group of friends whom they were with on the night she disappeared.
But a senior detective involved in the investigation said that although officers had plenty of circumstantial evidence, they could not prove what happened to Madeleine and had “nothing concrete”, a Portuguese newspaper has reported. The detective, spoken to by 24 Horas, a Portuguese newspaper, said: “Even if the blood and the traces gathered in the car and the apartment were confirmed to correspond 100 per cent with the little girl’s DNA that would prove nothing.”
It was also reported yesterday that the Forensic Science Service in Birmingham had discovered evidence from Madeleine’s hairs that she had been regularly sedated, leading to the suggestion that she might have been killed by an overdose. The couple have denied sedating Madeleine.
Mr and Mrs McCann met their lawyers and media advisers in London yesterday to discuss how to respond to accusations that Madeleine was killed accidentally.