Madeleine McCann Missing-Praia Da Luz, Portugal 3/05/07 #1

[Anna]

So I shouldn't relate my OWN experiences which seem to have been quite different from those of some here?

I thought we were all allowed to express our own opinion. 

That's mine.  Why is yours relevant and mine isn't?

[Anna]

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[Anna]

The underscore feature of the above article did not post but just about all the side effects were underscored as you can see at the link provided.

This would include anaphylactic shock and other potentially lethal ones.

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[SunnyinTX]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/09/24/we-ll-find-her-ourselves-89520-19836742/

WE'LL FIND HER OURSELVES
Maddy parents bring in SAS private detectives
By Martin Fricker And Lucy Thornton 24/09/2007

Kate and Gerry McCann have hired teams of ex-SAS and MI5 experts to launch their own hunt for Madeleine.

They brought in the crack detectives after Portuguese police failed to follow up leads. Investigators from security firm Control Risks Group are in Portugal and Morocco. One specialist team is in Marrakech probing a double sighting of Madeleine that was dismissed by police.

The McCanns say officers have stopped searching for her because they only care about convicting them.

I think this is a wise move. Although so much has been lost due to the initial lack of investagtion.

[pdh3]

So I shouldn't relate my OWN experiences which seem to have been quite different from those of some here?

I thought we were all allowed to express our own opinion. 

That's mine.  Why is yours relevant and mine isn't?

Once again....you see an attack where there is none. No one said your opinion wasn't relevant, or that you couldn't express it. I'm not going to continue with this. Be offended if you want to. You seem to look for it.

[kissyface]

Now now Monkeys, lets just stick to the matter.  No need to argue.  Everyone's opinion is relevant.  Whatever information we have, whether personal experience or other, is relevant in coming up with possible scenarios.  I don't think anyone is being attacked for their expression of what their own concerns may be.
 Truly, I believe the police have mucked up this whole investigation so badly that I wonder if we will really ever know the truth.  It is terribly unfortunate for the family and for Madeleine.  I think that the police have shown their ineptitude by not focusing on the investigation and trying to accuse the parents.  Now, so many days have gone by that wherever she is, she is getting farther away from anyone finding her.  It sickens me that the police have not tried harder to find something else.  But with the McCanns hiring their own team of detectives, maybe it will help.  I hope so.  She could be anywhere by now.  Somehow through it all though, I still believe she is alive.  I really do.  I hope that something concrete comes through soon.

[MuffyBee]

Now now Monkeys, lets just stick to the matter.  No need to argue.  Everyone's opinion is relevant.  Whatever information we have, whether personal experience or other, is relevant in coming up with possible scenarios.  I don't think anyone is being attacked for their expression of what their own concerns may be.
 Truly, I believe the police have mucked up this whole investigation so badly that I wonder if we will really ever know the truth.  It is terribly unfortunate for the family and for Madeleine.  I think that the police have shown their ineptitude by not focusing on the investigation and trying to accuse the parents.  Now, so many days have gone by that wherever she is, she is getting farther away from anyone finding her.  It sickens me that the police have not tried harder to find something else.  But with the McCanns hiring their own team of detectives, maybe it will help.  I hope so.  She could be anywhere by now.  Somehow through it all though, I still believe she is alive.  I really do.  I hope that something concrete comes through soon.

kissyface thank you for bringing the olive branch of peace.  If you will look at the investigation from the start, it appears the parents weren't even properly interviewed to at least rule them out as possible suspects.  So, the investigation hasn't REALLY just been focusing on the parents and not tried harder to find something else.  In the beginning, it was Murat, and it was possible pedophile ring, and the search went across at least four countries. And none of that was looking at the parents.  The parents being investigated and accused is of late.  Personally, I don't know who is responsible for Madeleine being missing.  I wish the law enforcement had done a better job of interviewing parents, friends, hotel workers etc., and secured the crime scene, the vehicle and etc.  They way it is now is a big muck up, for sure.  Please remember that the British are also involved in the investigation, and the possible evidence was sent to their labs for testing and it was British dogs that did the search.  That said, who knows how the evidence was collected and saved before the British Laboratories got it?  And etc.  It's a mess alright.  And the worst of it all is we still don't know where Madeleine is.

[kissyface]

i agree Muffybee.    (i bring you a flower, get it?  bees and flowers? hee hee) Anyway, it just saddens me that when they are at a point where no new leads, info or evidence is coming in, they immediately want to imply that it was the parents.  I hope they will keep looking beyond the Mc Canns.  I really don't know what to think yet (still!) because of the evidence they already have, but I am not inclined to think it was them (the parents).  Something just tells me it wasn't them.  If I am wrong, how horrendous, but right now that is my internal feeling.  I just hope they find her.  That's what we all hope for.  At this point, I don't care who is involved, I just wish they would find the little girl.  Once she is found, then they can interrogate whoever they want.  So sad that she is STILL missing.  It really amazes me how fast time goes by.

[MuffyBee]

Thank you for the flower kissyface.     (see kissy faces)    The Portugese police may very well be clutching at straws and scraping the bottom of the barrel by turning their focus on the parents now that they haven't gotten anywhere else with the investigation.  There have been the little leaks here and there by the police and that has made me scratch my head.    I was wondering the same thing with Murat.  There were some that were ready to do vigilante justice on him.  He hasn't been officially ruled out yet, to my knowledge.  We are more confused than ever with the case imo.  There have been no charges made against anyone, right?  And we really don't know what the police really have.  If they had enough to bring charges, why haven't they done so? Not enough evidence?  I think it's going to be very difficult to solve this and in the mean time, Madeleine is no where to be seen.

[ldstlou]

Wow...some serious luvin' in here..lol 
I agree Muffy, no real evidence at all. The PLE are not allowed to disclose any evidence and I think because of this, we can say all "leaks" have been pure bogus!!!
I am sure the parents do have some leads and I am anxious to hear from them. Hopefully with the loosening of the law in regards to silence, we will start hearing more of their side and theories. I for one am glad they have some people with resources stepping up to the plate!!! And I don't think if they were guilty of foul play, they would be hiring PI's to do an investigation, let alone publicizing the investigation. IMHO

[MuffyBee]

Wow...some serious luvin' in here..lol 
I agree Muffy, no real evidence at all. The PLE are not allowed to disclose any evidence and I think because of this, we can say all "leaks" have been pure bogus!!!
I am sure the parents do have some leads and I am anxious to hear from them. Hopefully with the loosening of the law in regards to silence, we will start hearing more of their side and theories. I for one am glad they have some people with resources stepping up to the plate!!! And I don't think if they were guilty of foul play, they would be hiring PI's to do an investigation, let alone publicizing the investigation. IMHO

eh, that wasn't like it looked     Since kissyface gave me a flower, I gave kissyface, well...a kissyface smiley.  As RoseAnne Rosanna Danna said "Nevermind"   
ldstlou I don't know if hiring PI's means innocence either.  There have been thousands spent on the PR campaign for the McCann's, some of it from the British government themselves.  For me, the jury is still out.  Come to think of it, the jury has never been in--yet.

[MuffyBee]

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Asked about contact the McCanns have had with Gordon Brown and other ministers, Mr Mitchell replied: "It has been reported that Gerry did have a few conversations with ministers. With the changing of their status, the inter-governmental status is such that any contact like this has ended. It would be improper.

"There is absolutely no British Government influence in this case. It's for the Portuguese authorities to investigate."
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=483577&in_page_id=1811&ct=5

[MuffyBee]

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Asked about contact the McCanns have had with Gordon Brown and other ministers, Mr Mitchell replied: "It has been reported that Gerry did have a few conversations with ministers. With the changing of their status, the inter-governmental status is such that any contact like this has ended. It would be improper.

"There is absolutely no British Government influence in this case. It's for the Portuguese authorities to investigate."
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=483577&in_page_id=1811&ct=5

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Prior to McGuinness's arrival in Praia da Luz, the McCanns' media handling was run, in an unprecedented move, by a team from the British Government.

To help the family cope with the enormous level of interest, first Sheree Dodd, a former Daily Mirror journalist, was dispatched to Portugal by the Foreign Office.

Then Clarence Mitchell, an ex-BBC news presenter now working as a senior government spin doctor, became the voice of the McCanns.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=480808&in_page_id=1770

In one instance I am reading "There is absolutely no British government influence in this case", and then I am reading " Prior to McGuinness's arrival in Praia da Luz, the McCann's media handling was run, in an unprecedented move, by a team from the British Government:
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[pdh3]

This whole case is a mass of contradictions. For every piece of news released, it seems another one is released stating just the opposite.
How in the world is all of this confusion going to help anyone find Madeleine?
I hope someone has the ability to sort through facts and rumors, and find that little girl. If she is alive, she may be living a nightmare in the worst circumstances, and at the very least she must miss her family and be very scared and confused. And if she isn't, those that love her need closure.
She needs a hero.

[MuffyBee]

This whole case is a mass of contradictions. For every piece of news released, it seems another one is released stating just the opposite.
How in the world is all of this confusion going to help anyone find Madeleine?
I hope someone has the ability to sort through facts and rumors, and find that little girl. If she is alive, she may be living a nightmare in the worst circumstances, and at the very least she must miss her family and be very scared and confused. And if she isn't, those that love her need closure.
She needs a hero.

I hope Madeleine can be found. It's been a long, long time.

[pdh3]

It has been a long, long time. And so much of it has been wasted on all these other issues.
This little girl tears at my heart.

[Tiger]

I do not want a fight,but the fact is we can draw conclusions,about this.This is a tragic situation and i will pray for Gods help in bringing closure.who cares if the standards in Scotland are different,they are are still people.Let us offer prayer and good wishes

[SteveDinMD]

This is just insane. There were tons of pictures of their visit to the shrine of Fatima, not to mention the crowds of people who followed their every move.

Yes, but the police are under attack and are going to defend themselves by striking back harder. All the cops have to do is get into the press the suggestion that the parents might have buried her while all those photographers were distracted and enough of that mud will stick to protect the Portugese police and the tourism industry.

Those 10,000 dollars a day SAS types are the only ones conducting an investigation in this case.

Oh, I had forgotten about the "Fatima theory."  I half expect the next allegation out of Portugal will be that the McCanns buried their daughter in the catacombs beneath St. Peter's Basilica when they were granted their papal audience.  Enough already! 

[ldstlou]

Wow...some serious luvin' in here..lol 
I agree Muffy, no real evidence at all. The PLE are not allowed to disclose any evidence and I think because of this, we can say all "leaks" have been pure bogus!!!
I am sure the parents do have some leads and I am anxious to hear from them. Hopefully with the loosening of the law in regards to silence, we will start hearing more of their side and theories. I for one am glad they have some people with resources stepping up to the plate!!! And I don't think if they were guilty of foul play, they would be hiring PI's to do an investigation, let alone publicizing the investigation. IMHO

eh, that wasn't like it looked     Since kissyface gave me a flower, I gave kissyface, well...a kissyface smiley.  As RoseAnne Rosanna Danna said "Nevermind"   
ldstlou I don't know if hiring PI's means innocence either.  There have been thousands spent on the PR campaign for the McCann's, some of it from the British government themselves.  For me, the jury is still out.  Come to think of it, the jury has never been in--yet.

You crack me up!!! I knew it was just good ole Monkey luvin' and no funny stuff!!! lol

My gut says it is not the parents, the timeframe is not there for me and these seem like good people who made a terrible mistake and are paying for it dearly. I think they are getting the same crap thrown their way by the PLE as Aruba threw at Natalee's family when all the negative attention started costing them $$.
We shall see. I still believe there is still a good chance Maddie could be found alive. I wish there were a way to focus our attention on some clues!! I think we will hear more from the McCanns and some viable leads, at least that is what I pray for.

[ldstlou]

It has been a long, long time. And so much of it has been wasted on all these other issues.
This little girl tears at my heart.

Oh me too!! I want her found so bad!!!
Her parents' ordeal tears at my heartstrings too!!
I still think she can be found alive.
I hate to delve into the ugly, but think I may have to look into the profiles if paedophiles/child abductors just to wrap my mind around what her chances are.