Caylee Marie Anthony - JUSTICE DENIED #4 7/13 - 7/14/2011

[Titch]

Here's another comment from The Daily Beast. Is it safe to assume the cousin being referred to is Nathan Plesea? I remember researching him in the beginning. He is Casey's cousin. I thought he was adopted? I'll have to go back over tge old stuff I saved online. Anybody remember him being mentioned?

   Hat-tip to Sassy.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/28/caylee-anthony-s-daddy-solving-the-riddle.html

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Sassy2 Weeks Ago
No, Caylee's Dad is her first cousin from Ohio. He and his family came to visit around Thanksgiving and Casey went out with him to some clubs and so forth to show him Orlando. Casey got pregnant and Caylee was born in August. She was not a month early as Cindy asserts. 
 
Get pics of Casey's first cousin from Ohio and you will see the striking resemblance. In fact, somewhere on the 'net is a pic of him holding Caylee at the Anthony home. The pic was taken outside in the back. 
 
This is the real truth, folks, and why Casey, Cindy, and the rest of the Anthony's never wanted anyone to know. Appearances are very important to them.  
 
Believe it or not. Doesn't really matter to me.

quote from one of KCs interviews with LE -

ALLEN: Zenaida give you any money that day?

ANTHONY: No. I would not sell my daughter. If I wanted to really just get rid of her, I would have left her with my parents and I would`ve left. I would`ve moved out. I would`ve given my mom custody.

WELLS: What about the baby`s daddy`s parents? Would you have left her with them, too?

ANTHONY: I haven`t talked to them since we were probably six or seven years old, since we were little kids. That was probably the last time I saw or talked to them.

WELLS: You don`t have a phone number for them?

ANTHONY: No, I do not. I would not have let anything happen to my daughter, except I made the mistake of trusting another person with her. That`s it. "

ok, so she knew the baby's daddy's parents when she was 6 or 7 years old???? that says COUSINS to me!! Certainly if it was a one-night-stand, she would not know the parents......

Aunt Pam Plesea has not seen Casey, since she was eight years old.  Does Aunt Pam have any children, if so, how old? 
 

Pam is Nathan's mom, isn't she? Omg let me go look it up. Brb.

http://www.veromi.com/Search.aspx?sType=name&db=&fn=Nathan&mn=Z&ln=Plesea&city=&state=&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=

Plesea, Nathan Z
Possible Aka's:
PLESEA, NATE
31
Clovis, NM
Warren, OH
Plesea, Pamela S
Plesea, Rick A
Peterson, Stacy Marie
Jonesplesea, Stacy M


Plesea, Nathan Z
31
Niles, OH

[KittyMom]

I remember seeing photos of KC and Lee with some cousins at the nursing home visiting grandpa.  Anyone know where to find them?

[Titch]

Hi Monkeys. I had to take some time off from this case. I was entirely too upset. Then, I check today to see any updates and find a story by Wendy Murphy saying she believes Casey was allowing Caylee to be used for child porn, and that maybe the state will bring charges against Casey for this. I missed all this? Anyone have any more information? How true could this be?

I don't believe that at all. It is a federal offense to engage in child sex or porn. She'd be in a penitentiary if it were true. I don't believe there were compromising pics of Caylee that were sealed. I do believe there were multiple compromising pics of Casey, though, but they were unrelated to this case so they were either sealed or not released. Jmo.

[cecilita]

Sindy was confronted by his brother on his wedding because casey looked pregnat...I believe that the family knew something about it and cyndi denied that casey was pregnat and hidded casey for a while and she tried to continue hidding casey's pregnancy on her brother's wedding but the brother saw casey very pregnat ..the reason that he got mad can be because they heard the rumos of casey being pregnat (after the boy's visit to florida) of their nephew and they asked sindy and she denied that casey was pregnat? the brother seemmed so upset that casey was pregnat, like he and the family were fooled by sindy and he finally confirmed in the weeding that casey was really pregnat of their nephew...It was very odd that an uncle will get so upset on his wedding that her nice is pregnat...I will be concern but I will not get mad on my wedding ...or maybe the uncle is the father woww hahaha who knows...with caseys past I will not be surprise than exactly nine months and 3 days she will give bobo a new baby!! yack!!

[stayhomemommy]

Hi Monkeys. I had to take some time off from this case. I was entirely too upset. Then, I check today to see any updates and find a story by Wendy Murphy saying she believes Casey was allowing Caylee to be used for child porn, and that maybe the state will bring charges against Casey for this. I missed all this? Anyone have any more information? How true could this be?

I don't believe that at all. It is a federal offense to engage in child sex or porn. She'd be in a penitentiary if it were true. I don't believe there were compromising pics of Caylee that were sealed. I do believe there were multiple compromising pics of Casey, though, but they were unrelated to this case so they were either sealed or not released. Jmo.

Thank you Titch! Yes, I suspect there were compromising pics of Casey....we've seen some of them. So, this is a relief for me in one way (that Caylee wasn't sold out for porn) but maddening in another (would love to see Casey go to jail for life). I guess patience will work in my favor, as I feel confident she will screw up again in time.

[stayhomemommy]

Sindy was confronted by his brother on his wedding because casey looked pregnat...I believe that the family knew something about it and cyndi denied that casey was pregnat and hidded casey for a while and she tried to continue hidding casey's pregnancy on her brother's wedding but the brother saw casey very pregnat ..the reason that he got mad can be because they heard the rumos of casey being pregnat (after the boy's visit to florida) of their nephew and they asked sindy and she denied that casey was pregnat? the brother seemmed so upset that casey was pregnat, like he and the family were fooled by sindy and he finally confirmed in the weeding that casey was really pregnat of their nephew...It was very odd that an uncle will get so upset on his wedding that her nice is pregnat...I will be concern but I will not get mad on my wedding ...or maybe the uncle is the father woww hahaha who knows...with caseys past I will not be surprise than exactly nine months and 3 days she will give bobo a new baby!! yack!!

Cecilita, that is a good point. I didn't pay attention before to how upset the uncle was, but you're right: why would an uncle seem so overwhelmingly upset? I mean, I could see being disappointed in your niece, but being so furious is a bit strange when they weren't the ones raising her.

[4myjoey]

He and his investors think that money will go back to the state of Fla?? Please this piece of crap murderer will wait until all the lawsuits are in, file for bankruptcy, THEN sign contracts so she gets to keep all the money. F her and anyone that gives her a dime!!!

I thought you can't discharge debt that was the result of fraud.

Debts Excluded from Discharge



Certain debts can't be discharged in bankruptcy. The Bankruptcy Code lists 21 categories of such debts.
Chapter 7 Nondischargeable Debts

In a Chapter 7 case, the most common types of debts that can't be discharged are:

    * Taxes and tax liens
    * Student loans
    * Alimony and child support (domestic support obligations)
   * Debts obtained through fraud, false pretenses or false representation
    * Debts you failed to schedule in time to allow creditors to file proofs of claim (unscheduled debts)
    * Debts for fraud while you were acting in a fiduciary capacity, or for embezzlement or larceny
    * Debts for willful and malicious injury
    * Debts for fines or penalties to governmental units
    * Debts for judgments in wrongful death or personal injury lawsuits resulting from motor vehicle, vessel or aircraft accidents while you were intoxicated
    * Condominium or cooperative association fees or assessments
Edit to add link:
http://bankruptcy.lawyers.com/consumer-bankruptcy/Debts-You-Cannot-Discharge-in-Bankruptcy.html



wouldn't these civil suits be the result of fraud?  or no

[4myjoey]

the link to my above post



http://bankruptcy.lawyers.com/consumer-bankruptcy/Debts-You-Cannot-Discharge-in-Bankruptcy.html

[pharlap]

Hi Monkeys. I had to take some time off from this case. I was entirely too upset. Then, I check today to see any updates and find a story by Wendy Murphy saying she believes Casey was allowing Caylee to be used for child porn, and that maybe the state will bring charges against Casey for this. I missed all this? Anyone have any more information? How true could this be?

I don't believe that at all. It is a federal offense to engage in child sex or porn. She'd be in a penitentiary if it were true. I don't believe there were compromising pics of Caylee that were sealed. I do believe there were multiple compromising pics of Casey, though, but they were unrelated to this case so they were either sealed or not released. Jmo.

Thank you Titch! Yes, I suspect there were compromising pics of Casey....we've seen some of them. So, this is a relief for me in one way (that Caylee wasn't sold out for porn) but maddening in another (would love to see Casey go to jail for life). I guess patience will work in my favor, as I feel confident she will screw up again in time.

I just find it strange for sealing them, IF indeed it's true regarding kc.
It seems like their's so many laws for the accused and none for the victim, Caylee.
 

[seemeatthebeach]

Hi Monkeys. I had to take some time off from this case. I was entirely too upset. Then, I check today to see any updates and find a story by Wendy Murphy saying she believes Casey was allowing Caylee to be used for child porn, and that maybe the state will bring charges against Casey for this. I missed all this? Anyone have any more information? How true could this be?

I don't believe that at all. It is a federal offense to engage in child sex or porn. She'd be in a penitentiary if it were true. I don't believe there were compromising pics of Caylee that were sealed. I do believe there were multiple compromising pics of Casey, though, but they were unrelated to this case so they were either sealed or not released. Jmo.

John Allen & Yuri Melich both said in the press conference there are NO pictures of Caylee or Casey sealed or not given to the State.....all pictures obtained during the investigation have been released thru discovery.

[Jazzy]

Good Morning monkeys.

[Monken]

Sindy was confronted by his brother on his wedding because casey looked pregnat...I believe that the family knew something about it and cyndi denied that casey was pregnat and hidded casey for a while and she tried to continue hidding casey's pregnancy on her brother's wedding but the brother saw casey very pregnat ..the reason that he got mad can be because they heard the rumos of casey being pregnat (after the boy's visit to florida) of their nephew and they asked sindy and she denied that casey was pregnat? the brother seemmed so upset that casey was pregnat, like he and the family were fooled by sindy and he finally confirmed in the weeding that casey was really pregnat of their nephew...It was very odd that an uncle will get so upset on his wedding that her nice is pregnat...I will be concern but I will not get mad on my wedding ...or maybe the uncle is the father woww hahaha who knows...with caseys past I will not be surprise than exactly nine months and 3 days she will give bobo a new baby!! yack!!

Cecilita, that is a good point. I didn't pay attention before to how upset the uncle was, but you're right: why would an uncle seem so overwhelmingly upset? I mean, I could see being disappointed in your niece, but being so furious is a bit strange when they weren't the ones raising her.

Yes, it is! i agree! Pam Plesea is the one who was so outspoken about the whole family; she's related by marriage. i can see in Casey's sick head that she would think it's okay to sleep with Nathan because of that! 

[MuffyBee]

Hi Monkeys. I had to take some time off from this case. I was entirely too upset. Then, I check today to see any updates and find a story by Wendy Murphy saying she believes Casey was allowing Caylee to be used for child porn, and that maybe the state will bring charges against Casey for this. I missed all this? Anyone have any more information? How true could this be?

I don't believe that at all. It is a federal offense to engage in child sex or porn. She'd be in a penitentiary if it were true. I don't believe there were compromising pics of Caylee that were sealed. I do believe there were multiple compromising pics of Casey, though, but they were unrelated to this case so they were either sealed or not released. Jmo.

Thank you Titch! Yes, I suspect there were compromising pics of Casey....we've seen some of them. So, this is a relief for me in one way (that Caylee wasn't sold out for porn) but maddening in another (would love to see Casey go to jail for life). I guess patience will work in my favor, as I feel confident she will screw up again in time.

I just find it strange for sealing them, IF indeed it's true regarding kc.
It seems like their's so many laws for the accused and none for the victim, Caylee.
 

(Bolded by me)

It sure seems that way to me too, pharlap. 

[Yoder1]

Here's another comment from The Daily Beast. Is it safe to assume the cousin being referred to is Nathan Plesea? I remember researching him in the beginning. He is Casey's cousin. I thought he was adopted? I'll have to go back over tge old stuff I saved online. Anybody remember him being mentioned?

   Hat-tip to Sassy.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/28/caylee-anthony-s-daddy-solving-the-riddle.html

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Sassy2 Weeks Ago
No, Caylee's Dad is her first cousin from Ohio. He and his family came to visit around Thanksgiving and Casey went out with him to some clubs and so forth to show him Orlando. Casey got pregnant and Caylee was born in August. She was not a month early as Cindy asserts. 
 
Get pics of Casey's first cousin from Ohio and you will see the striking resemblance. In fact, somewhere on the 'net is a pic of him holding Caylee at the Anthony home. The pic was taken outside in the back. 
 
This is the real truth, folks, and why Casey, Cindy, and the rest of the Anthony's never wanted anyone to know. Appearances are very important to them.  
 
Believe it or not. Doesn't really matter to me.

quote from one of KCs interviews with LE -

ALLEN: Zenaida give you any money that day?

ANTHONY: No. I would not sell my daughter. If I wanted to really just get rid of her, I would have left her with my parents and I would`ve left. I would`ve moved out. I would`ve given my mom custody.

WELLS: What about the baby`s daddy`s parents? Would you have left her with them, too?

ANTHONY: I haven`t talked to them since we were probably six or seven years old, since we were little kids. That was probably the last time I saw or talked to them.

WELLS: You don`t have a phone number for them?

ANTHONY: No, I do not. I would not have let anything happen to my daughter, except I made the mistake of trusting another person with her. That`s it. "

ok, so she knew the baby's daddy's parents when she was 6 or 7 years old???? that says COUSINS to me!! Certainly if it was a one-night-stand, she would not know the parents......

Aunt Pam Plesea has not seen Casey, since she was eight years old.  Does Aunt Pam have any children, if so, how old? 
 

Pam is Nathan's mom, isn't she? Omg let me go look it up. Brb.

http://www.canyon-news.com/artman2/publish/National_News_1182/Closing_The_Case_On_Casey_Anthony_Murder_Trial_printer.php

NATIONAL NEWS
Casey Anthony's Aunt Speaks, Exclusive
By Tommy Garrett
Jul 2, 2011 - 11:59:59 PM

I was initially contacted like everyone else in the family for photographs of Casey and the family. But I wanted nothing to do with the story or these people anymore. Rick has disowned our son, and I have been talking in secret to Rick and Cindy’s mom Shirley (Plesea) all of these years. And she told me what happened the night Caylee went missing on June 15, 2008. It’s not what Cindy and George have sworn under oath to in court either,” said Pam Plesea.

None of this surprised me,” said Anthony’s ex-sister-in-law Pam Plesea. “When my son was 4 years old and we threw him a birthday party, Casey was just days or weeks old. Cindy showed up at my home and put the infant Casey up in my face and said, 'What a shame you will never know how it feels to have your own child.' I was mortified. My son was adopted, but he is my child and she then said, 'Oh, I meant that you never will have a girl, and it’s the best thing for a mother. She’s my life now.' Well, 25 years later, I see she is willing to possibly perjure herself for her daughter.

Mom Plesea [Shirley Plesea] has been talking to me ever since this whole thing happened. She told me that on June 15 after she, Cindy and Caylee went to visit her husband at the nursing home, which is very close to where Shirley lives. She then showed Cindy that Casey had forged a $354 check on her husband’s nursing home account."

"She later told me Cindy found out Casey had done this. She claimed she used the money to buy a new work phone for Universal Studios. Anyhow, Shirley told Cindy that she was going to call the police and she said that Cindy told her, if she did, she’d never speak to her again. So Shirley feels guilty to this day that she did not call the police. She had warned Cindy, if something was not done to stop Casey, that she’d end up doing something bad. Now Shirley lives with the grief that if she had only called the police that Caylee might still be alive today,” said Pam.


There is more to this article if you want to read on.

[stayhomemommy]

Hi Monkeys. I had to take some time off from this case. I was entirely too upset. Then, I check today to see any updates and find a story by Wendy Murphy saying she believes Casey was allowing Caylee to be used for child porn, and that maybe the state will bring charges against Casey for this. I missed all this? Anyone have any more information? How true could this be?

I don't believe that at all. It is a federal offense to engage in child sex or porn. She'd be in a penitentiary if it were true. I don't believe there were compromising pics of Caylee that were sealed. I do believe there were multiple compromising pics of Casey, though, but they were unrelated to this case so they were either sealed or not released. Jmo.

John Allen & Yuri Melich both said in the press conference there are NO pictures of Caylee or Casey sealed or not given to the State.....all pictures obtained during the investigation have been released thru discovery.

Thank you seeme! I have been taking a break from this and didn't see the press conference. I appreciate your update very much!

[MuffyBee]

Good Morning monkeys.

Good morning

[Titch]

Hi Monkeys. I had to take some time off from this case. I was entirely too upset. Then, I check today to see any updates and find a story by Wendy Murphy saying she believes Casey was allowing Caylee to be used for child porn, and that maybe the state will bring charges against Casey for this. I missed all this? Anyone have any more information? How true could this be?

I don't believe that at all. It is a federal offense to engage in child sex or porn. She'd be in a penitentiary if it were true. I don't believe there were compromising pics of Caylee that were sealed. I do believe there were multiple compromising pics of Casey, though, but they were unrelated to this case so they were either sealed or not released. Jmo.

John Allen & Yuri Melich both said in the press conference there are NO pictures of Caylee or Casey sealed or not given to the State.....all pictures obtained during the investigation have been released thru discovery.

I thought the question that was asked at the OCSO Presser was if there are pics of Caylee that were sealed, and John Allen stated that there are no pictures that are sealed. If that's how it was asked & answered, then it could be read into. If the question was actually about Caylee AND Casey, & his answer was no pics are sealed, then I must be wrong. I thought the question was asked about Caylee, though. I'll go back & look at the video. It has to be on YouTube right? You're probably right...

[Titch]

Good Morning monkeys.

Good morning

Good morning! 

[Titch]

Yoder ~ Thank You! Omg, so ibremembered right & Nathan was adopted! Also, Rick disowned his son, according to Pam. Hmmm. Hinky. Maybe it's nothing, but it is interesting. From what I remember, Pam was doing good for herself. I seriously forget but I remember something about teaching? Or working for a s hook? Maybe I'm confused.

[OriginalKat]

Here's another comment from The Daily Beast. Is it safe to assume the cousin being referred to is Nathan Plesea? I remember researching him in the beginning. He is Casey's cousin. I thought he was adopted? I'll have to go back over tge old stuff I saved online. Anybody remember him being mentioned?

   Hat-tip to Sassy.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/28/caylee-anthony-s-daddy-solving-the-riddle.html

Quote

Sassy2 Weeks Ago
No, Caylee's Dad is her first cousin from Ohio. He and his family came to visit around Thanksgiving and Casey went out with him to some clubs and so forth to show him Orlando. Casey got pregnant and Caylee was born in August. She was not a month early as Cindy asserts. 
 
Get pics of Casey's first cousin from Ohio and you will see the striking resemblance. In fact, somewhere on the 'net is a pic of him holding Caylee at the Anthony home. The pic was taken outside in the back. 
 
This is the real truth, folks, and why Casey, Cindy, and the rest of the Anthony's never wanted anyone to know. Appearances are very important to them.  
 
Believe it or not. Doesn't really matter tereo me.

GM Monkeys & guests. TY Titch & all monkeys for the links and info.  So if this is true, this & white photo of a guy holding Caylee, that no one could ever figure out who he was. Hmmm... Interesting if true.

Good morning Monkeys
This is who I always thought was Caylees biological father.

That would be a reason to hide a pregnancy, lie to your family about it and never search out the dad for child support. Timing is right also because I had a full term baby getting pg on Thanksgiving night before my hubby left for a month and mine was due August 11th.