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Let's hope 2007 brings Justice for Natalee
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Chapter 8 continued:
page 17 + 18
He tell Satish what had happened on the beach and Satish repeats "fok that bitch".
Joran tells Satish that he will go to school in the morning and that he will go and look for his shoes after being at the raquet club.
Joran writes that people think it is suspicious that he left his shoes on the beach but why would he say it to the police if it had not happened. He writes that he must have found dozens of pairs of shoes on the beach and that he took slippers he had found on the beach one time. Maybe someone found them and threw them away, took them to the hotel and left them at the lobby or just took them for himself.
At 2.46am Joran receives a text message from Deepaks computer in which he asks him to misscall him (call, let the phone ring once and hang up again) when he gets home.
They drive home and when they get there Satish says not to worry, he will go and pick up his shoes. He asks Joran where he left them, Joran explains this, gets out and Satish drives off.
Joran goes to his apartment. He text messages Flor at 3.11 something sweet and messages Deepak at 3.13 saying that he is home and whether he is online.
Joran switches on his computer and goes online. Then comes the already known chat between the Deepak and Joran.
Joran then visits the three soccer sites we know off.
Then the the 2 porn sites where the downloads to hard porn flicks
He looks for the last time at his hotmail and MSN at 4.30
Joran then writes that these were findings also of the forensic search of the computer and thus fact.
He also writes that these facts exonerate him, reasoning that it would take a professional killer to kill someone within 1 hour and make them disappear from the face of the earth.
He also reasons that it would be pretty sick to murder someone and then go and watch porn flicks, go to bed, go to school and do a mock exam
Then he writes that Nancy Watson was also in C&C that night and when they went to the HI at 1.30am they sat out near the pool area with Bruce and David Thorpe till 5am and that if Natalee had gone back on foot through the lobby, then they would have spotted her and that is not the case.
The Haitian guard Reneska who was working that the HI that night testified that around midnight he saw a group of American students skinny dipping/swimming nude. The are having fun nude in the water to about 2.30am
pages 19 and 20
a few of them then head to the bubble bath, others head for Curaçao tower or the Bonaire tower of the HI.
According to his statement, at approx. 2.30am he sees the dangerous thief Marlon walk across the beach with a light colored dominican man. They are coming from the direction of the Marriot. At that same moment the skinny dipping Americans get out of the water. Reneska remembers that this was on the day that Natalee disappeared and that since that night he has never seen the thief Marlon or his companion on the beach of the HI again.
Lee goes to bed between 3 and 4.
She wakes up at 8am, Ruth also wakes up and Natalee is not there. Ruth testifies that they thought she might be in another room because she did not want to risk waking them up that night.
When the hours nears that they are going to leave and Natalee's stuff and passport are still untouched, the group of girls panics. The look for Natalee in other student rooms (Lee and Ruth that is) but they find no sign of Natalee. Then they tell one of the chaperone's that Natalee has gone missing.
People tell Ruth that Natalee had left with three boys, they they had tried to stop her but that she had still gone.
According to the friend it is not like Natalee to go away with strange boys. "Of course she had a nice smile and people wanted to be her friend. But she was also mature and very smart. She was the most responsible friend she had ever had".
Holly Brown who slept in the adjacent room that night helps Madison clean up their room for departure and they clear/pack away Natalee's stuff. Her passport and suitcase they leave in her room.
That afternoon the cleaning lady finds a very messy room 7114: "In the room there were a lot of empty bottles of alcoholic beverages. There were about 6 yard cups. Her passport and suitcase they had left in the room".
Ruth: "When it was time to get on the plane we called Natalee's mom Beth. We were flipping/freaking during the flight and tried to think what could have happened with her".
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Klaas cheated
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Klaas cheated
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Joran said Deepak was talking on his computer to a girl from Surnaime. Do we have a record of that?
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Chapter 9 may take a while according to Ramm it's 41 pages
Chapter 9 title:
The Lies
Comment by me: only 41 pages
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Quote from: "klaasend"
Chapter 9 may take a while according to Ramm it's 41 pages
Chapter 9 title:
The Lies
Comment by me: only 41 pages
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Quote from: "klaasend"
Chapter 9 may take a while according to Ramm it's 41 pages
Chapter 9 title:
The Lies
Comment by me: only 41 pages
The "Lies" Chapter probably needs a table of contents and an index. Probably has footnotes too.
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"The Lies" Chapter should have been a book all by itself. That, or it could be volume 2, I suppose
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Quote from: "klaasend"
Chapter 9 may take a while according to Ramm it's 41 pages
Chapter 9 title:
The Lies
Comment by me: only 41 pages
It must be written in shorthand to fit them into 41 pages.
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Ughhhhhhhhhhhh
Reading all of that is so sick.
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Quote from: "Tibrogargan"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Chapter 9 may take a while according to Ramm it's 41 pages
Chapter 9 title:
The Lies
Comment by me: only 41 pages
It must be written in shorthand to fit them into 41 pages.
Come to think of it, the WHOLE book is nothing but lies. So why the special chapter? Must be Joran is going to do some 'splainin... Just more lies to cover the other lies.
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Hi All! I've been lurking and reading all night so I thought I would speak. Reading Joran's book makes me want to throw up!
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Hi All! I've been lurking and reading all night so I thought I would speak. Reading Joran's book makes me want to throw up!
Join the barf club
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Joran said Deepak was talking on his computer to a girl from Surnaime. Do we have a record of that?
Never heard it before. Just JC Croes.
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Hi All! I've been lurking and reading all night so I thought I would speak. Reading Joran's book makes me want to throw up!
It's disgusting alright. I didn't expect anything better considering the source.
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Hi All! I've been lurking and reading all night so I thought I would speak. Reading Joran's book makes me want to throw up!
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Hi All! I've been lurking and reading all night so I thought I would speak. Reading Joran's book makes me want to throw up![/quote
Passing yah a bucket Casa,.,.
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