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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2007, 12:12:56 AM »

Valentijn was never interviewed as far as we know. The Kalpoes's little sister was, she was maybe 10 and I don't think she had any knowledge of anything. Val was home on line that night, they had the computer activity early.
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2007, 12:13:33 AM »

Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Klaas ... I do not believe that Freddy made a mistake regarding the date which he claims in his declaration that Joran relayed the Marriot Beach story to him.  The date had to be May 30, 2005 because ... Freddy  continues to discuss his encounter the "next day" with Joran at the Raquet Ball club.  Could Freddie have confused the two dates?

Janet


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Freddy Zedan
Witness Statement
June 12, 2005

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Monday afternoon on the 30th, Joran came to my house. He told met that the previous day, Sunday, he had befriended a girl in the Holiday Inn casino and that she had invited him to come to Carlos and Charlies that evening. He went and they danced and drank together. After that he, Deepak Satish and the girl drove off. Her friends saw that. The drove in the direction of the Lighthouse; a white car was behind them and most likely wanted to race Deepak. But that is something Deepak would never do. Joran told me that he fingered and had french kissed the girl while they were driving. He did not say that he had had sex with her. They drove to the Lighthouse, she wanted to see sharks. But Deepak only drove up to the Lighthouse because his car is very low to the ground and cannot drive up to the North side of Aruba. The girl had said to Joran that if Deepak and Satish would have lived in her town, they would be slaves. After that they drove to the hotel. When the girl had pushed open the door of the car, she fell to the ground. Joran wanted to help her but she shoved him away. (....)

The next day, Tuesday May 31st 2005 in the afternoon, I was with Joran at the raquetclub ....

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Janet - you are absolutely correct. no I don't think Freddy made a mistake.  I believe Joran continues to lie.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2007, 12:16:49 AM »

Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Klaas ... I do not believe that Freddy made a mistake regarding the date which he claims in his declaration that Joran relayed the Marriot Beach story to him.  The date had to be May 30, 2005 because ... Freddy  continues to discuss his encounter the "next day" with Joran at the Raquet Ball club.  Could Freddie have confused the two dates?

Janet


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Freddy Zedan
Witness Statement
June 12, 2005

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Monday afternoon on the 30th, Joran came to my house. He told met that the previous day, Sunday, he had befriended a girl in the Holiday Inn casino and that she had invited him to come to Carlos and Charlies that evening. He went and they danced and drank together. After that he, Deepak Satish and the girl drove off. Her friends saw that. The drove in the direction of the Lighthouse; a white car was behind them and most likely wanted to race Deepak. But that is something Deepak would never do. Joran told me that he fingered and had french kissed the girl while they were driving. He did not say that he had had sex with her. They drove to the Lighthouse, she wanted to see sharks. But Deepak only drove up to the Lighthouse because his car is very low to the ground and cannot drive up to the North side of Aruba. The girl had said to Joran that if Deepak and Satish would have lived in her town, they would be slaves. After that they drove to the hotel. When the girl had pushed open the door of the car, she fell to the ground. Joran wanted to help her but she shoved him away. (....)

The next day, Tuesday May 31st 2005 in the afternoon, I was with Joran at the raquetclub ....

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I think Freddy is telling the truth as he knows it.  I wonder why Joran had to bring up the slave thing.  This is so ANITA!  For me, bringing up slaves and Hitler were two very telling things, because neither of these things would Natalee have said.  There have not been slaves in her lifetime nor has there been segregation.  She was born in the an era where blacks and whites live together and probably her only reference is from history on either subject.  What a lying satanic igor Anita has spawned.
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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2007, 12:22:35 AM »

Angie911

Again, I am behind in reading the pages, but thank you for explaining about Sat. Greta's no show on DirectTV... felt like I was in the Twilight Zone waiting. Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2007, 12:23:40 AM »

STILL MIA:

GLENDA/JULIA

JR DUTCH ATTORNEY

BOUCHERON


FOB is left without anyone with the ability to ban a poster.  WHY HAVE THESE PEOPLE JUMPED SHIP??
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« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2007, 12:24:05 AM »

Tyler - I agree. That is just their jaundiced view of life in our countries, where they bash us for being racists, even though they are the only ones to have considered the subject.

Both these comments were straight out of Anita's lying spiteful gob.
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« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2007, 12:32:43 AM »

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STILL MIA:

GLENDA/JULIA

JR DUTCH ATTORNEY

BOUCHERON


FOB is left without anyone with the ability to ban a poster.  WHY HAVE THESE PEOPLE JUMPED SHIP??


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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2007, 12:32:48 AM »

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WHY HAVE THESE PEOPLE JUMPED SHIP??

Cause they read the book?
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« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2007, 12:32:52 AM »

O/T sort of:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1267803,00.html

Army Base 'Rape' Investigation
Updated: 04:42, Tuesday May 29, 2007

The Military Police are investigating claims of the attempted rape of a young recruit at the Catterick army base in North Yorkshire.
 
Catterick Army BarracksThe assault was allegedly filmed by other soldiers on a mobile phone camera.

The Parachute Regiment recruit is apparently shown in the two-minute video being held down while another person attempts to rape him.

According to the Sun newspaper, during the footage the trainee Para is taunted for being gay and after the alleged assault ends up curled on a bed crying: "Help me."

The alleged attack happened last month and came to light when a mother was shown the images by her son, a soldier, and alerted military police.

A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: "An alleged incident recorded on a mobile phone is being investigated by the Royal Military Police.

"We are not prepared to comment on the allegations."
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« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2007, 12:33:15 AM »

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STILL MIA:

GLENDA/JULIA

JR DUTCH ATTORNEY

BOUCHERON


FOB is left without anyone with the ability to ban a poster.  WHY HAVE THESE PEOPLE JUMPED SHIP??



Well there lies have caught up with them, There Dirt bags I dont miss them or reading the crap they say
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« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2007, 12:33:48 AM »

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WHY HAVE THESE PEOPLE JUMPED SHIP??

Cause they read the book?

Well someone would have to read it to Julia since according to her she doesn't read Dutch or Pap.
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« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2007, 12:41:43 AM »

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Valentijn was never interviewed as far as we know. The Kalpoes's little sister was, she was maybe 10 and I don't think she had any knowledge of anything. Val was home on line that night, they had the computer activity early.


Here's the rub.  Paulus says they were with Anita.
There is a record according to Widget of two youth returning with Anita.
Joran says his father went home to take care of his brothers.
One brother was supposedly playing and was going to be dropped off.
There leaves another person in the house who knows what is going on.
They had two housekeepers.
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« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2007, 12:48:02 AM »

LOL, falling asleep at the keyboard again. I have just GOT to go to bed. Y'all have a good night. Remember what Tomorrow is and let it make you even madder that we have been here now 2 years and still no answers. Maybe soon.
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« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2007, 12:48:26 AM »

Klaas - that picture has been resized.   Rolling Eyes   Sometimes it seems to take a while to take effect.
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« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2007, 12:52:46 AM »

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Valentijn was never interviewed as far as we know. The Kalpoes's little sister was, she was maybe 10 and I don't think she had any knowledge of anything. Val was home on line that night, they had the computer activity early.


Here's the rub.  Paulus says they were with Anita.
There is a record according to Widget of two youth returning with Anita.
Joran says his father went home to take care of his brothers.
One brother was supposedly playing and was going to be dropped off.
There leaves another person in the house who knows what is going on.
They had two housekeepers.


Do we have positive proof of when the boys came back to Aruba or is that another of their fairy stories?  Are they all so crooked they could not lie straight in bed?
My guess is Freddy for the goon at the house - awaiting computer transmissions from video or mobile phones.
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« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2007, 12:55:29 AM »

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Klaas - that picture has been resized.   Rolling Eyes   Sometimes it seems to take a while to take effect.


It resizes when you refresh your browser  Wink
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« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2007, 01:03:58 AM »

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Klaas - that picture has been resized.   Rolling Eyes   Sometimes it seems to take a while to take effect.


It resizes when you refresh your browser  Wink


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« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2007, 01:13:32 AM »

Shocked  Hi Tib and all Monkeys,

Gosh I was just sitting here reading, I forgot I'd logged in.  First thought was OMG how'd Tib see me?????
Klaas, I did go to the Lounge and sign up for two prayer days, if you have not already updated lately.

So CBB's not around huh?  She always gets me in trouble...
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« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2007, 01:18:31 AM »

Hummingbird - not much gets past the monkeys  Wink  Wink

CBB has been quiet tonight so if we just whisper we should be safe.  
Hope you have been keeping well.
Have been looking for more dolphin pics.  Found some lovely penguin ones a few days ago.  All animals are lovely and their babies are always cute.
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« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2007, 01:21:40 AM »

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Shocked  Hi Tib and all Monkeys,

Gosh I was just sitting here reading, I forgot I'd logged in.  First thought was OMG how'd Tib see me?????
Klaas, I did go to the Lounge and sign up for two prayer days, if you have not already updated lately.

So CBB's not around huh?  She always gets me in trouble...

I added you  Wink
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