Lively Case Discussion #630 5/28 - 5/29/2007

[Dayhiker]

Greta wouldn't know the truth if it slapped her off her anchor chair.

Greta knows the truth.  Prior to the Joran interview ... prior to her adopting an Aruban agenda ... Greta`s perception of the investigation and her perception of the main suspects were one with the family of Natalee Holloway.  Greta was one of their strongest advocates.

Good Morning Dayhiker. (8:30 AM)

Janet
 

Morning Janet! Greta has been spending too much time under the flashing colored goggles.

[Tylergal]

Good morning, Monkeys.

I stayed up and met my prayer time and then could not get to sleep.  Something was tugging at my heart.  I could not quite decide exactly what it was but it was there, like an unopened package being picked at.  It occurred to me what it was that I had not prayed about or even considered, so I prayed for my own forgiveness in how I must come to accept those things which I cannot change.  I cannot change the hearts of the Arubans, I cannot change the hearts of the Refugees, of Julia Renfro, and others, but I can change my own heart to become more accepting of those things which I cannot change and lay it at His feet to bring about change.

I was still awake when Fox & Friends announced the "two attorneys" and I stayed awake, so I have had but a nap since I was here last.   I tried to listen without malice in my heart to Joe Tacopino.  I realized that I will not change his mind nor his heart, and I do not know his mind nor his heart.  I really can change nothing but I can continue to hope and pray for the family of this beautiful young woman who disappeared and for others, and Madeline's family as well as many, many others who have lost children.  I realized how blessed I have been to have such wonderful children and grandchildren whose lives, though not perfect, are loving, giving wonderful people and should I lose them today, I have so many wonderful  memories of them, and I know this must be what keeps Dave & Beth going, the wonderful child Natalee was, their other children and the memories of one beautiful child whose life was brief but changed many others forever and although it might not change the evil in hearts of men, it has changed many whose hearts are not evil, but it has raised our level of awareness so that we might be able to prevent such from occurring with our loved ones and that we might be able to assist others in these difficult times.

There are so many wonderful people who have touched our lives through all this, i.e., Klaas, Dana, Red, Mrs. Red, Tim Miller, all the monkeys, good people, who we knew in our hearts were out there, but whom we had not come to know and knowing them if only from a distance has proven to be such a rewarding experience.

Many people believe the computer is "the beast," and perhaps it is, but He knows how to use the beast to benefit good people and it is through this little beast that I have come to know and love each and every one of you and each of you has added another facet to my life.

Have a good day.  Continue to pray without ceasing.  No, God does not bring this on people.  He does allow evil to exist and to go unchecked, but in the end, He reigns it in.  We must always remember this.  Rewards are not always expediently gained but they are forthcoming.  Justice is, likewise, not always within easy grasp, but it does come and it comes to all.

[MsVada]

What about the possibility that they have moved onto a private forum somewhere?  

I too find it hard to believe that they are on extended holiday without contact with their groupies.

[Easywriter]

It was mentioned yesterday (I forgot who) that IF the investigation was about to close (favorable to J2K & P) Julia, JR et al would be on the forums GLOATING instead of being MIA! I feel postive (like robots)!

I agree!  Those people would be spreading the propaganda all over the net.  Has anyone checked to see what their last posts were?

[Dayhiker]

Prediction: Beth's book will outsell Joran's BIG-TIME.

"take it to the BANK"  

Joran's book ain't worth ripping up and lining a birdcage with.

Beth will slay Aruba and she has every right to do so. Joran's book has already been debunked because his lies have been exposed. Beth will deliver the coup de grace.

[robots]

if they were posting on a private message baord they could still have banned CERTAIN people from the regular evil boards


but htey have not

they are DONE  

 

[Easywriter]

What about the possibility that they have moved onto a private forum somewhere?  

I too find it hard to believe that they are on extended holiday without contact with their groupies.

They could have done something like that, but it looks like they left most of their regular posters behind.  It is also curious that Medley made an exit from FOB as well.  Of course, she tends to follow men around, so she probably lost interest after JR bailed out.

[Rob]

Prediction: Beth's book will outsell Joran's BIG-TIME.

"take it to the BANK"  

Joran's book ain't worth ripping up and lining a birdcage with.

SB-
I'm obviously buying the book. I can't wait to read it.

[nonesuche]

Is anything known about Beth’s book?  Is it an inspirational type book, or is it taken from her journal?  Sort of an accounting of what all she saw and heard over the past two years?

I hope ALL is included, those journals must contain explosive paper trails of all the half-truth's, lies, encounters with the dregs such as JRenfro, details of all the dirty truth around this case.

FYI, had interesting convo with son last night, we both were discussing the 2-year anniversary. He made the remark unprompted that two years later all of the MB kids he's in college with have been successful at UA and not a one of them unsuccessful.

the proof is in the pudding, look at the perps  

[klaasend]

It was mentioned yesterday (I forgot who) that IF the investigation was about to close (favorable to J2K & P) Julia, JR et al would be on the forums GLOATING instead of being MIA! I feel postive (like robots)!

I agree!  Those people would be spreading the propaganda all over the net.  Has anyone checked to see what their last posts were?

GLENDA/RENFRO = Last post RU 5/2/07, last post FOB 5/3/07

JR DUTCH ATTY = Last post FOB 5/5/07

BOUCHERON = Last post FOB 5/6/07

As of 2 minutes ago  

[klaasend]

What about the possibility that they have moved onto a private forum somewhere?  

I too find it hard to believe that they are on extended holiday without contact with their groupies.

They could have done something like that, but it looks like they left most of their regular posters behind.  It is also curious that Medley made an exit from FOB as well.  Of course, she tends to follow men around, so she probably lost interest after JR bailed out.

    Her most recent post was at Scrux indicating that there's nothing suspicious about her less frequent posting.

[Tamikosmom]

"I cannot change the hearts of the Arubans, I cannot change the hearts of the Refugees, of Julia Renfro, and others ..." ... Tylergal

... but God can.

Matthew 19: 26
Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

Tylergal ... thank you so much for your heartfelt post.  I truly appreciated every word.

Janet

[wreck]

I forgot to mention that last night (2am CST) I was rolling around in bed and turned on the radio to help me fall back asleep. FOXNEWS - Radio was talking about the 2 year anniversary of Natalee's disappearance during their top-of-the-hour newscast. They had a few words w/ Dave Holloway. Dave said he always thought the answers were "just around the corner" but they just never pan out. It hit me sadly that it was probably the "exact" time (2 years ago) of the actual tragedy.  

[Kat_Gram]

Tyler said it all and the bestest today. Sometimes I do not agree with Tyler, when I do , I does ! !

[Elaine]

Hello monkeys! We know Joran did this and so do the Arubans and the Dutch as well. (Except for a few with distorted realities.) I do not know if any of you sawthat cartoon on the net a while back. It was a Dutch site and all in Dutch. The cartoon had Jesus Christ on a chair, with Joran over his lap. Jesus was giving Joran a spanking on his behind.....The title was
"Now who's your Daddy?" If anyone wants to see it I will bring it here later as I cannot stay long now. It sent me a powerful message, the Dutch know that he did this with Daddy's complicity.

[Easywriter]

It was mentioned yesterday (I forgot who) that IF the investigation was about to close (favorable to J2K & P) Julia, JR et al would be on the forums GLOATING instead of being MIA! I feel postive (like robots)!

I agree!  Those people would be spreading the propaganda all over the net.  Has anyone checked to see what their last posts were?

GLENDA/RENFRO = Last post RU 5/2/07, last post FOB 5/3/07

JR DUTCH ATTY = Last post FOB 5/5/07

BOUCHERON = Last post FOB 5/6/07

As of 2 minutes ago  

Was the content of their last posts interesting, or just more gibberish?  Did anything specific happen the first week of May?

[Easywriter]

What about the possibility that they have moved onto a private forum somewhere?  

I too find it hard to believe that they are on extended holiday without contact with their groupies.

They could have done something like that, but it looks like they left most of their regular posters behind.  It is also curious that Medley made an exit from FOB as well.  Of course, she tends to follow men around, so she probably lost interest after JR bailed out.

    Her most recent post was at Scrux indicating that there's nothing suspicious about her less frequent posting.

She still over at scrux chasing Roger around the keyboard?  She must ne into that falling asleep thing.  

[klaasend]

EASY  - gibberish

The only thing notable that I can think of beside the search at the VDS was MF posting an URGENT message to JR Dutch Atty to check his PM's.

[Easywriter]

EASY  - gibberish

The only thing notable that I can think of beside the search at the VDS was MF posting an URGENT message to JR Dutch Atty to check his PM's.

I remember that!  My first thought was that MF was trying to get a message to the Sloots.  No telling with that MF.  He/she is some of the worst advertising for Aruba I have ever seen.

[wreck]

EASY  - gibberish

The only thing notable that I can think of beside the search at the VDS was MF posting an URGENT message to JR Dutch Atty to check his PM's.

INTERESTING!!!!