Lively Case Discussion #631 5/30 - 5/31/2007

[BTgirl]

thanks igsigs, actually Klaas has gotten pretty good with dutch due to the PV's but I can bet she's reading at FOB right now !

it would be too sweet for us to stand if it were definitive and the sporter would have a trial date, we'd faint - right?

(Aren't these just the cutest little smileys?!)

[wreck]

igs,

"good news" for us -- or "good news" for Joran????

[nonesuche]

thanks igsigs, actually Klaas has gotten pretty good with dutch due to the PV's but I can bet she's reading at FOB right now !

it would be too sweet for us to stand if it were definitive and the sporter would have a trial date, we'd faint - right?

(Aren't these just the cutest little smileys?!)

indeed  

is anyone else watching the spelling bee on ABC? I love these little egghead junior high kids  

[sb]

i wish you could stealth on over and steal him or hide him or lose him or sumpthin   I can't believe I'm posting this  

none, I think the honeymoon is FAST drawing to a close and the bloom is off the roses now.   I'm expecting bricks to fly before November 1st. UGH it is gonna get ugly down there, I'm afraid!

Now I can get away with such heretical talk because they all KNOW I ain't a fan of theirs.  

Wait until spooky comes in here and starts complaining and you will REALLY know then that it's ON, for sure!

[oldfart]

Hi MNKYS

Just popping in on the latest page before I start reading backyards  
Anything special I need to look for??

NoneS  
Just wondering... have you tried freezing a cup-cake and then tasting after it thawed out  (dumb idea I Know but I want a cup-cake !!)

[igsigs]

igs,

"good news" for us -- or "good news" for Joran????

us

  ETA: I don't read D utch and i am only guessing.

[Sue]

Pearl at BFN did a somewhat translation of that aritcle or announcement
at BFN


http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=7020.0

[sb]

Hey, BTW I was one of those little egghead Junior High kids at one time, I was 2nd Place in Miami when I was in the 6th Grade and missed that National Spelling Bee by one word!

[nonesuche]

SB it appears A-day was a good bellwether for many   we hope?

OldFart I will try to freeze some just for you buddy

igsigs I'd be cautious too just because we have been so disappointed and this FAMILY disappointed so often.......so we likely shouldn't hold our breath....yet

[AZSunny]

Hi MNKYS

Just popping in on the latest page before I start reading backyards  
Anything special I need to look for??

NoneS  
Just wondering... have you tried freezing a cup-cake and then tasting after it thawed out  (dumb idea I Know but I want a cup-cake !!)

Great idea old fart.  we can volunteer from various markets to test the results....none...do you need my address? Don't be shy,  just ask!!  I will do it for free!  

[nonesuche]

Hey, BTW I was one of those little egghead Junior High kids at one time, I was 2nd Place in Miami when I was in the 6th Grade and missed that National Spelling Bee by one word!

hey I was an egghead too once, proud of it   I skipped the second grade

I am busting laughing over this exchange      

our claim to fame?  

[blah]

Pearl at BFN did a somewhat translation of that aritcle or announcement
at BFN


http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=7020.0

this site is asking for a username and password.  Anyway you could cat and paste the translation in here?

[nonesuche]

AZSunny-

If only we had some seed money to help develop packaging, nothing would make me happier than to be shipping cookies and cupcakes far and wide   I am working on it though, just filed a business plan with the SBA  

[igsigs]

Pearl at BFN did a somewhat translation of that aritcle or announcement
at BFN


http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=7020.0

That's a different one Sue.

I am talking about MF's *real new information* thread at FOB.

[Sue]

original and a babelfish translation:

http://antillen.nu/content/view/2465/2/

Natalee Holloway twee jaar vermist        
ORANJESTAD (31-05-07) - De Amerikaanse scholiere Natalee Holloway was woensdag precies twee jaar geleden verdwenen op Aruba. De toen 18-jarige Holloway was op het Caribische eiland om het afronden van de middelbare school te vieren, zo meldt Trouw. De scholiere verdween spoorloos na een avond uit met de Nederlander Joran van der Sloot en twee van zijn vrienden. De drie zijn nog steeds de hoofdverdachten. Het lichaam van Holloway is nooit teruggevonden. De Nederlandse politie op Aruba onderzoekt de zaak nog steeds. Afgelopen maand deed de Nederlandse politie nog huiszoekingen bij de ouders van Van der Sloot en in het huis van de twee andere verdachten. De verdwijning van Holloway zorgde voor opschudding op Aruba. Er werden massale zoekacties op touw gezet door onder meer de Amerikaanse FBI, Nederlandse politieteams en bewoners van het eiland. Daarbij werden F16's van de Koninklijke Luchtmacht ingezet. Ook in de Verenigde Staten kreeg de zaak veel aandacht door mediaoptredens van de moeder van Holloway. Verdachte Joran van der Sloot was ook te zien op de Amerikaanse televisie. Hij gaf een interview aan de nieuwszender ABC. De destijds 17-jarige Van der Sloot werd enkele dagen na de verdwijning van de scholiere gearresteerd. Ook twee van zijn vrienden, de Surinaamse broers Deepak en Satish Kalpoe, werden opgepakt. Eerder had de politie twee bewakers van een hotel in de buurt van de verblijfplaats van Holloway opgepakt. Zij werden later vrijgelaten. Een van hen verklaarde na zijn vrijlating dat Van der Sloot in de cel tegen hem had gezegd dat hij een valse verklaring had afgelegd tegenover de politie. Van der Sloot werd drie maanden later vrijgelaten, waarna hij terugkeerde naar Nederland. Zijn 52-jarige vader, rechter in opleiding, werd ook enkele dagen vastgehouden voor verhoor. Hij eiste later een schadevergoeding, een eis die in hoger beroep werd afgewezen. Van der Sloot zei in zijn verklaringen tegenover de politie Holloway 's nachts te hebben achtergelaten op het strand. Volgens hem had hij seks met haar gehad en was ze dronken. Eerder had hij verklaard dat hij Holloway bij haar hotel had afgezet. Hij zou zijn verklaringen hebben aangepast omdat hij zich ervoor schaamde dat hij het meisje alleen had gelaten. Een 19-jarige Nederlandse hotelbeveiliger werd in april vorig jaar opgepakt in verband met de vermissing. Hij werd drie weken later vrijgelaten. Volgens het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) was er geen reden om hem nog langer vast te houden. Hij bleef toen nog wel verdachte. Een maand later werd in Den Haag een Arubaanse jongen opgepakt die werkte in het casino van het hotel waar Holloway verbleef. Hij werd na bemiddeling van zijn advocaat Gerard Spong vrijgelaten wegens gebrek aan bewijs. Hij zou een bekende zijn van Joran van der Sloot. De familie van Natalee Holloway loofde een miljoen dollar uit voor wie Natalee zou terugbrengen. Ook begon de familie van Holloway in de VS tegen Van der Sloot en zijn vader een civiele procedure. De Holloways achtten de twee verantwoordelijk voor de verdwijning van hun dochter. De rechtbank in New York verwierp de eis. Van der Sloot bracht in april een boek uit waarin hij vertelt over zijn ervaringen in de Arubaanse cel. In het boek bood hij zijn excuses aan de ouders van de scholiere. Hij zei dat hij hun dochter beter had moeten behandelen.(bron Trouw/Novum)

 
 
Natalee Holloway two years vermist

 ORANJESTAD (31-05-07) - the American scholiere Natalee Holloway had been suffered Wednesday exact two years disappeared on Aruba. The then 18 person whose birthday it is Holloway was on the Caribbean island celebrate winding up the middle school, thus communicates faithfully.

The scholiere disappeared without a trace after an evening from with the Dutchman Joran of of the ditch and two of its friends. Three is still the hoofdverdachten. The body of Holloway has been never retrieved.

The Dutch police force on Aruba examines the matter still. Last month did the Dutch police force still searchings at the parents of of of the ditch and in the house of the two other suspected. The disappearance of Holloway ensured upheaval on Aruba.

Massive search operations on rope were put by among others the American FBI, Dutch police force teams and occupants of the island. Thereby F16's of the royal air power were used. Also in the United States the matter received much attention medium actions of the mother of Holloway. Suspected Joran of of the ditch were see also on the American television. He gave to the nieuwszender ABC to an interview.

The then 17 person whose birthday it is of of the ditch some were arrested days after the disappearance of the scholiere. Of its friends, the Surinamese brothers Deepak also two and Satish Kalpoe, were taken up. Rather the police force had taken up two keepers of a hotel in the buurt of the verblijfplaats of Holloway. They were later released. Of them explained after its vrijlating that of of the ditch in cell against him had said that he had given a false statement compared with the police force.

Of of the ditch three months were later released, whereupon he returned to the Netherlands. Its 52 person whose birthday it is father, right in training, were held days also some for verhoor. He claimed later damageses, a requirement which was rejected in appeal.

Of of the ditch Holloway said have left behind at night on the range in its declarations compared with the police force. According to him he had had sex with her and was them drank. Rather he had explained that he had turned off Holloway at its hotel. He will have adapted its declarations because he was ashamed himself that he had only left the little girl.

 A 19 person whose birthday it is Dutch hotelbeveiliger was taken up in April previous year concerning the vermissing. He was later released three weeks. According to the Public Prosecution Service (OM) there no reason was hold him still longer. He remained then still suspected.

A month later in The Hague a arubaanse boy was taken up who worked in the casino of the hotel where Holloway stayed. He was released Gerard Spong because of lack of proof after conciliation of its lawyer. He an acquaintance would be of Joran of of the ditch.

The family of Natalee Holloway praised a million dollar from for which Natalee would bring back. Also against of of the ditch and its father a civil procedure started the family of Holloway in the US. The Holloways considered two responsibly for the disappearance of their for the. The court in New York rejected the requirement.

Of of the ditch a book in April in which he tells cell concerning its experiences in the arubaanse, brought out. In the book offered he are excuses to the parents of the scholiere. He said that he their for the better behandelen.(bron would have had faithfully/novum)

From Pearl At BFN

[blah]

Hey, BTW I was one of those little egghead Junior High kids at one time, I was 2nd Place in Miami when I was in the 6th Grade and missed that National Spelling Bee by one word!

hey I was an egghead too once, proud of it   I skipped the second grade

I am busting laughing over this exchange      

our claim to fame?  

I suked at speeling.  But I kicked ass in math!!!

 

[Kat_Gram]

Pearl at BFN did a somewhat translation of that aritcle or announcement
at BFN


http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=7020.0

this site is asking for a username and password.  Anyway you could cat and paste the translation in here?

original and a babelfish translation:

http://antillen.nu/content/view/2465/2/

Natalee Holloway twee jaar vermist        
ORANJESTAD (31-05-07) - De Amerikaanse scholiere Natalee Holloway was woensdag precies twee jaar geleden verdwenen op Aruba. De toen 18-jarige Holloway was op het Caribische eiland om het afronden van de middelbare school te vieren, zo meldt Trouw. De scholiere verdween spoorloos na een avond uit met de Nederlander Joran van der Sloot en twee van zijn vrienden. De drie zijn nog steeds de hoofdverdachten. Het lichaam van Holloway is nooit teruggevonden. De Nederlandse politie op Aruba onderzoekt de zaak nog steeds. Afgelopen maand deed de Nederlandse politie nog huiszoekingen bij de ouders van Van der Sloot en in het huis van de twee andere verdachten. De verdwijning van Holloway zorgde voor opschudding op Aruba. Er werden massale zoekacties op touw gezet door onder meer de Amerikaanse FBI, Nederlandse politieteams en bewoners van het eiland. Daarbij werden F16's van de Koninklijke Luchtmacht ingezet. Ook in de Verenigde Staten kreeg de zaak veel aandacht door mediaoptredens van de moeder van Holloway. Verdachte Joran van der Sloot was ook te zien op de Amerikaanse televisie. Hij gaf een interview aan de nieuwszender ABC. De destijds 17-jarige Van der Sloot werd enkele dagen na de verdwijning van de scholiere gearresteerd. Ook twee van zijn vrienden, de Surinaamse broers Deepak en Satish Kalpoe, werden opgepakt. Eerder had de politie twee bewakers van een hotel in de buurt van de verblijfplaats van Holloway opgepakt. Zij werden later vrijgelaten. Een van hen verklaarde na zijn vrijlating dat Van der Sloot in de cel tegen hem had gezegd dat hij een valse verklaring had afgelegd tegenover de politie. Van der Sloot werd drie maanden later vrijgelaten, waarna hij terugkeerde naar Nederland. Zijn 52-jarige vader, rechter in opleiding, werd ook enkele dagen vastgehouden voor verhoor. Hij eiste later een schadevergoeding, een eis die in hoger beroep werd afgewezen. Van der Sloot zei in zijn verklaringen tegenover de politie Holloway 's nachts te hebben achtergelaten op het strand. Volgens hem had hij seks met haar gehad en was ze dronken. Eerder had hij verklaard dat hij Holloway bij haar hotel had afgezet. Hij zou zijn verklaringen hebben aangepast omdat hij zich ervoor schaamde dat hij het meisje alleen had gelaten. Een 19-jarige Nederlandse hotelbeveiliger werd in april vorig jaar opgepakt in verband met de vermissing. Hij werd drie weken later vrijgelaten. Volgens het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) was er geen reden om hem nog langer vast te houden. Hij bleef toen nog wel verdachte. Een maand later werd in Den Haag een Arubaanse jongen opgepakt die werkte in het casino van het hotel waar Holloway verbleef. Hij werd na bemiddeling van zijn advocaat Gerard Spong vrijgelaten wegens gebrek aan bewijs. Hij zou een bekende zijn van Joran van der Sloot. De familie van Natalee Holloway loofde een miljoen dollar uit voor wie Natalee zou terugbrengen. Ook begon de familie van Holloway in de VS tegen Van der Sloot en zijn vader een civiele procedure. De Holloways achtten de twee verantwoordelijk voor de verdwijning van hun dochter. De rechtbank in New York verwierp de eis. Van der Sloot bracht in april een boek uit waarin hij vertelt over zijn ervaringen in de Arubaanse cel. In het boek bood hij zijn excuses aan de ouders van de scholiere. Hij zei dat hij hun dochter beter had moeten behandelen.(bron Trouw/Novum)

 
 
Natalee Holloway two years vermist

 ORANJESTAD (31-05-07) - the American scholiere Natalee Holloway had been suffered Wednesday exact two years disappeared on Aruba. The then 18 person whose birthday it is Holloway was on the Caribbean island celebrate winding up the middle school, thus communicates faithfully.

The scholiere disappeared without a trace after an evening from with the Dutchman Joran of of the ditch and two of its friends. Three is still the hoofdverdachten. The body of Holloway has been never retrieved.

The Dutch police force on Aruba examines the matter still. Last month did the Dutch police force still searchings at the parents of of of the ditch and in the house of the two other suspected. The disappearance of Holloway ensured upheaval on Aruba.

Massive search operations on rope were put by among others the American FBI, Dutch police force teams and occupants of the island. Thereby F16's of the royal air power were used. Also in the United States the matter received much attention medium actions of the mother of Holloway. Suspected Joran of of the ditch were see also on the American television. He gave to the nieuwszender ABC to an interview.

The then 17 person whose birthday it is of of the ditch some were arrested days after the disappearance of the scholiere. Of its friends, the Surinamese brothers Deepak also two and Satish Kalpoe, were taken up. Rather the police force had taken up two keepers of a hotel in the buurt of the verblijfplaats of Holloway. They were later released. Of them explained after its vrijlating that of of the ditch in cell against him had said that he had given a false statement compared with the police force.

Of of the ditch three months were later released, whereupon he returned to the Netherlands. Its 52 person whose birthday it is father, right in training, were held days also some for verhoor. He claimed later damageses, a requirement which was rejected in appeal.

Of of the ditch Holloway said have left behind at night on the range in its declarations compared with the police force. According to him he had had sex with her and was them drank. Rather he had explained that he had turned off Holloway at its hotel. He will have adapted its declarations because he was ashamed himself that he had only left the little girl.

 A 19 person whose birthday it is Dutch hotelbeveiliger was taken up in April previous year concerning the vermissing. He was later released three weeks. According to the Public Prosecution Service (OM) there no reason was hold him still longer. He remained then still suspected.

A month later in The Hague a arubaanse boy was taken up who worked in the casino of the hotel where Holloway stayed. He was released Gerard Spong because of lack of proof after conciliation of its lawyer. He an acquaintance would be of Joran of of the ditch.

The family of Natalee Holloway praised a million dollar from for which Natalee would bring back. Also against of of the ditch and its father a civil procedure started the family of Holloway in the US. The Holloways considered two responsibly for the disappearance of their for the. The court in New York rejected the requirement.

Of of the ditch a book in April in which he tells cell concerning its experiences in the arubaanse, brought out. In the book offered he are excuses to the parents of the scholiere. He said that he their for the better behandelen.(bron would have had faithfully/novum)

[mrs. red]

Hi MNKYS

Just popping in on the latest page before I start reading backyards  
Anything special I need to look for??

NoneS  
Just wondering... have you tried freezing a cup-cake and then tasting after it thawed out  (dumb idea I Know but I want a cup-cake !!)

well Red and I froze our wedding cake and it was wonderful a year later.... I did use 2 boxes of saran wrap and 2 boxes of foil ... but from first hand knowledge you can do it...

[Kat_Gram]

I am sure Pearl would not mind for the sharing.

[robots]

Hey, BTW I was one of those little egghead Junior High kids at one time, I was 2nd Place in Miami when I was in the 6th Grade and missed that National Spelling Bee by one word!

hey I was an egghead too once, proud of it   I skipped the second grade

I am busting laughing over this exchange      

our claim to fame?  

I suked at speeling.  But I kicked ass in math!!!

 

i always liked FISICS