Lively Case Discussion #633 6/2 - 6/3/2007

[Tylergal]

Was the conversation, Natalee said her mother was Hitler's sister, or did Joran tell her he was Hitler and he was going to make her Hitler's sister...is it not true that Hitler raped his sister?

Let's go to slave.  Did Natalee say that in Alabama they would be slaves, or did they say, "in Alabama Black people are slaves, but tonight, you are going to be our slave... we are in Aruba and we are the masters..."

[truthseeker2]

[quote="Grande
Honestly, I don't think Deepak had the time to drink much if any at all.  He may have taken a 'road soda' for the ride, but time did not allow for much drinking between Joran's and Arashi IMO.

If Deepak had pouring back a bunch of beer he might of had a frequent need to stop and take a leak, but whiskey and coke doesn't do that to a person.

So, the question is why did he even bring up the stop?[/quote]

Because Deepak lies about the little things, like the security guard lie when he described the uniform and the walkie talkie.  Deepak is not an outrageous liar the way Joran is.  He makes up little lies to make his story sound more plausible.  Like if he is "remembering to tell you the little things he must be telling the truth" type of lying.

Joran, on the other hand, tells BS lies that common sense can easily disspell.

[Rob]

Rob - Dave didn't even get to Aruba until June 1 or 2.  There are several rock formations near the Lighthouse.  How would Dave have known back then where to look?  We didn't even know about it then?

Klaas- I'm telling you that Dave was there and he didn't see anything that looked like blood. They drove all over that area. ATVs and Quads.

Now maybe the ALE did cover over that crime scene with the dead bodies of people from the morgue at a later time... but who knows. How could anyone ever prove that.

I do know that Dave Holloway and his friends did traverse that entire area and did not see any blood there... those videos would have been shot around 6-9 to 6-10 like Ed said. And before that there was no way there was blood there....

I can't explain it, all I can do it tell you the truth. I have been all over these videos. What more can I say? I looked at the videos and I compared it to what I was told and I came to the conclusions that I have.

[Grande]

[Anna]

at the risk of being accused of being an idiot, I am going to write two words and most of the men will know what I mean about Deepak and urine.

"Golden rain."

Yes, there are those who find urinating on others highly sexual as well as being urinated on, ditto other bodily functions.  Considered kinky by most like S&M, bondage, etc.

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[Tylergal]

Not one of us is a doctor so we do not know the condition nor capacity of Deepak's bladder but I suspect he had to throw up after what had happened, and they would find all that "shit..."  He experienced something that made him sick.  Out of fear DNA would be found, he said "urinate..."  vomit is now gone.  Vomit was probably just beer anyway, so DNA is DNA.  Or did they stop at a beach and clean their bodies and throw away something, like a belt?

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Rob - Dave didn't even get to Aruba until June 1 or 2.  There are several rock formations near the Lighthouse.  How would Dave have known back then where to look?  We didn't even know about it then?

Klaas- I'm telling you that Dave was there and he didn't see anything that looked like blood. They drove all over that area. ATVs and Quads.

Now maybe the ALE did cover over that crime scene with the dead bodies of people from the morgue at a later time... but who knows. How could anyone ever prove that.

I do know that Dave Holloway and his friends did traverse that entire area and did not see any blood there... those videos would have been shot around 6-9 to 6-10 like Ed said. And before that there was no way there was blood there....

I can't explain it, all I can do it tell you the truth. I have been all over these videos. What more can I say? I looked at the videos and I compared it to what I was told and I came to the conclusions that I have.

 Is Ed Smit credible in your opinion??

[Grande]

[Sam]

something I just thought of,when we were in Germany and Amsterdam all the female bathrooms  had condom dispensers. I would imagine the mens would as well.

So Jorans excuse of not having a condom was crap.

[Tylergal]

"No, she was not ugly, she did not look like a whore, she was beautiful and she danced like an angel..."  

Now, he has placed her in Heaven.  It's late now.  It's December.  She has been through purgatory now and escaped the container.  She is an angel.

[Easywriter]

[quote="Grande
Honestly, I don't think Deepak had the time to drink much if any at all.  He may have taken a 'road soda' for the ride, but time did not allow for much drinking between Joran's and Arashi IMO.

If Deepak had pouring back a bunch of beer he might of had a frequent need to stop and take a leak, but whiskey and coke doesn't do that to a person.

So, the question is why did he even bring up the stop?

Because Deepak lies about the little things, like the security guard lie when he described the uniform and the walkie talkie.  Deepak is not an outrageous liar the way Joran is.  He makes up little lies to make his story sound more plausible.  Like if he is "remembering to tell you the little things he must be telling the truth" type of lying.

Joran, on the other hand, tells BS lies that common sense can easily disspell.[/quote]

Is there a reason he wanted people to think they were at that location?  Does being there prevent them from being elsewhere at a given time?  Did someone see Deepak's car at that location?

[Rob]

 Is Ed Smit credible in your opinion??

No!... hahahaha!!! he's NUTZ!

I laid a web and someone fell right into it. Thanks MB!

[klaasend]

Rob - Dave didn't even get to Aruba until June 1 or 2.  There are several rock formations near the Lighthouse.  How would Dave have known back then where to look?  We didn't even know about it then?

Klaas- I'm telling you that Dave was there and he didn't see anything that looked like blood. They drove all over that area. ATVs and Quads.

Now maybe the ALE did cover over that crime scene with the dead bodies of people from the morgue at a later time... but who knows. How could anyone ever prove that.

I do know that Dave Holloway and his friends did traverse that entire area and did not see any blood there... those videos would have been shot around 6-9 to 6-10 like Ed said. And before that there was no way there was blood there....

I can't explain it, all I can do it tell you the truth. I have been all over these videos. What more can I say? I looked at the videos and I compared it to what I was told and I came to the conclusions that I have.

My point is that Dave didn't know about the rocks or the videos at that time.  He wouldn't have been looking for "dried blood".  There are many rock formations in that area and I don't see how he can say with 100% certainty that he knows there was nothing there.

[yapperz1]

Nite Monkeys

[Easywriter]

Who is speaking in the second paragraph?

[klaasend]

Nite Yapperz

[Sam]

 Is Ed Smit credible in your opinion??

No!... hahahaha!!! he's NUTZ!

I laid a web and someone fell right into it. Thanks MB!

A little old and slow here, what does that mean Rob?

[truthseeker2]

[quote="Grande
Honestly, I don't think Deepak had the time to drink much if any at all.  He may have taken a 'road soda' for the ride, but time did not allow for much drinking between Joran's and Arashi IMO.

If Deepak had pouring back a bunch of beer he might of had a frequent need to stop and take a leak, but whiskey and coke doesn't do that to a person.

So, the question is why did he even bring up the stop?

Because Deepak lies about the little things, like the security guard lie when he described the uniform and the walkie talkie.  Deepak is not an outrageous liar the way Joran is.  He makes up little lies to make his story sound more plausible.  Like if he is "remembering to tell you the little things he must be telling the truth" type of lying.

Joran, on the other hand, tells BS lies that common sense can easily disspell.

Is there a reason he wanted people to think they were at that location?  Does being there prevent them from being elsewhere at a given time?  Did someone see Deepak's car at that location?[/quote]

All good questions.  If I were to believe they were never there I would assume he is lying to put himself there instead of somewhere else.  If he says he stopped to "take a pee" so that he has a reason for being there then I have to decide how much of what he is saying is a lie.  He was there for the purpose of what...dragging her dead body out to sea?  I can't think of anything they could have done in the short time it would have taken for him to empty his bladder and then leave.  I think he is lying about being there.  It makes the entire lie more believable if he makes up small details.  jmho

[Angiex911dsptchr]

 Is Ed Smit credible in your opinion??

No!... hahahaha!!! he's NUTZ!

I laid a web and someone fell right into it. Thanks MB!

 HUH?  WTF you talkin about?  Who is MB? Sorry I am lost bigtime..
 email me if you dont wanna say here?  
 I am not directing this to you... but now is not the time to play games and its happening too much other places?  
 Can you splain?  Thanks

[Grande]

Some interesting interrogations occured immediately after this one by Deepak where Deepak showed investigators where he urinated.  Those included were Zuriel Yarzagary (3 statements within 48 hour time period and IMMEDIATELY after this particular statement by Deepak) and Rafael Solognier (CAR SEARCHED??).