Lively Case Discussion #634 6/4 - 6/5/2007

[Frijole]

Arubagirl is calling us dimwits again, in light of the company she keeps maybe that's a compliment      

Ask her how the economy is on the toilet she lives in?

She'll say everything is fine... the party line ya know?

[oldfart]

I posted this earlier.. (may have been old news)
Aruba Police Web sight  http://www.kparuba.com/

I do plan on trying to contact them and ask that they put a little more detail & effort into this MIssing Persons alert.
You know... maybe a few tiny, tiny details that would not hurt any investigation / case BUT may be of assistance to helping the public provide information

http://www.kparuba.com/missingnatalee.htm

[klaasend]

(reposting to make sure Tyler saw this)

Tyler:

Merian Ernest Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: The whisperer knows...
A new line has been set. The clock re-arranged. Ha! Antennas that talk about what they saw. They know he went back, but what did he do?


Merian Ernest Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: They call him bifrons...
Find Aruba. Find the Haystack. Find Santa Marta. Trace with your finger what the Antenna has spoken about.

Unleash the dogs. Inch by inch...grid by grid.

Simian had plenty to say about joran and his loco self;


Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 2:37 pm
It’s horrible. He is a sociopath.

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 2:44 pm
Killing his own dogs. Dumping them is the reservoir. Harrassing his schoolmates.

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 2:50 pm
This is bad. Really bad…He has a history of making himself be something he is not.

+++++++++

Can't argue with any of that  

[Lala'sMom]

In Holloway case, Aruba also suffers
Two years after the U.S. woman disappeared, islanders say the accusatory free-for-all was an end of innocence for them.
By Carol J. Williams, Times Staff Writer
June 4, 2007
 
ORANJESTAD, ARUBA —
"Vivian van der Biezen, head of legal and policy assistance for the Aruba prosecutor's office, says that authorities are prohibited from discussing an active case and that a new phase of the investigation began six weeks ago.

On the recommendation of officials in the Netherlands who reviewed Aruban and FBI reports, Van der Sloot's home was searched again April 27. Twenty forensic investigators perused his parents' diary notes and a personal computer and poked narrow rods into soil in the backyard of their modest home.

Paul van der Sloot, the suspect's father, said they found nothing suspicious.

Van der Biezen said she was confident the magistrate on the sister island of Curacao, where the case has been relocated, would give the prosecution more time given the high visibility and complexity of the Holloway case. But she acknowledged that the clock was ticking and, at best, they had a few more months to find a body or forensic evidence that a crime had been committed.


"There will come a time when we have to make a decision to prosecute or make it a cold case," she said.

Anybody notice this??? Case relocated to Curacao??

Anybody notice this??? Case relocated to Curacao??

(there's an echo in the cage)

I saw this earlier when you posted it...are you saying that the Natalee Holloway case is now being relocated for possible prosecution to Curacao?

[bleachedblack]

OK, sorry I'll stop, I just get carried away.

[Artcolley]

Remember that other Aruban girl..I can't remember her name..she was around  at the very first..she posted a lot and then one day said she was getting in trouble for posting about the case and she had to stop.
Was it "Arubiangirl"?   (NOT arubagirl, btw)

I feel like this is Jeopardy!!!  

Who is "American in Aruba" for $500!!!

BINGO!!!! Now, for your winning trip...um...A Free Trip to ALASKA!!!!!!  
Or anywhere BUT Aruba!

Now, do you remember her saying she was getting in trouble for posting about the case?
It seems to me the word was out very early on to NOT post anything relevant from Aruba.

[blah]

Are we assuming that The Simian knows Paulus (or someone) answered the phone at 2:00am because of the phone records or because someone said they called/talked to him at 2:00am, or maybe Simian himself called Paulus at 2:00am??

Maybe The Simian used psychic abilities to figure this out?

Have you even read Simian?  

not to the extent as some of you.

[klaasend]

Lala's - that was in the LA Times article.  Mentions the case is in Curacao.

[Lala'sMom]

Arubagirl is calling us dimwits again, in light of the company she keeps maybe that's a compliment      

Is that because we dare to venture that she could have posted as Simian?  Or because she knows we know something she doesn't want told?  Just curious. Sorry.  I will behave for a while.

[klaasend]

Arubagirl is calling us dimwits again, in light of the company she keeps maybe that's a compliment      

Is that because we dare to venture that she could have posted as Simian?  Or because she knows we know something she doesn't want told?  Just curious. Sorry.  I will behave for a while.

Personally, I don't believe AG has anything to do with Simian.

[blah]

Arubagirl is calling us dimwits again, in light of the company she keeps maybe that's a compliment      

Ask her how the economy is on the toilet she lives in?

She'll say everything is fine... the party line ya know?

yeah, the Aloe sales are off the charts !

[Grande]

Johny Melvis ERASMUS & Clyde Anthony BURKE

There, they are introduced to Clyde Burke, the good looking emcee, a regular Police man during working hours. Clyde makes sure his guests have a good time, drinking and eating while watching a cornucopia of local eclectic talent
http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter54.html

Anthony BClyde BURKE and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY -
DEEPAK 6/11/2005 STATEMENT

Clyde Anthony BURKE and Shaniro Baldrik KELLY, -
 DEEPAK 06/13/2005 STATEMENT

Shaniro Baldrik KELLY and Clyde Anthony BURKE, respectively sergeant and sergeant first class with the Korps Politie Aruba and both detached to the Detective district 2, d - DEEPAK - 6/16/2005 STATEMENT


Shaniro Baldrik KELLY and Clyde Anthony BURKE
SANDER GOTTENBOS - 06/16/2005 STATEMENT
CARLOS RAMOS (gardener witness) Statements 7/26 - 8/16/2005
SANDER GOTTENBOS - 06/16/2005 STATEMENT
SANDER GOTTENBOS - 06/17/2005 STATEMENT
Amanda Metz   6/20/2005
Gilayla Flanegin   6/20/2005
Margaritha Werlemen Dijkhoff   6/20/2005


Roland Ramiro TROMP and Clyde Anthony BURKE
PAULUS VDS - 06/18/2005 Witness Statement

Clyde Anthony BURKE and Marton Rolando GUMBS
DEEPAK 6/29/2005 STATEMENT


DEEPAK 6/30/2005 STATEMENT

Clyde Anthony BURKE and Haydee Azucena NADAL
PVDS 06/25/2005 STATEMENT

DON'T forget these...

Antonius Mickey John   6/5/2006
Abraham Jones   6/6/2005
Francisco Remigio Thiel   6/5/2005
Deepak Kalpoe   6/9/2005
Deepak Kalpoe   6/10/2005
Paul van der Sloot     6/23/2005
Deepak Kalpoe   6/29/2005
Deepak Kalpoe   6/30/2005
Niharika "Rika" Trivedi   7/2/2005
George Twitty   7/5/2005
Steve Croes   6/21/2005


NOTHING after the July 5, statement from George Twitty.

[Artcolley]

Artcolley - correct, it was Arubiangirl (and not Arubagirl)

YEah, Klaas...I just thought a minute..it wasn't AMerican in Aruba..this WAS Arubiangirl..another one. She wasn't around long.

[Grande]

Arubagirl is calling us dimwits again, in light of the company she keeps maybe that's a compliment      

Is that because we dare to venture that she could have posted as Simian?  Or because she knows we know something she doesn't want told?  Just curious. Sorry.  I will behave for a while.

Personally, I don't believe AG has anything to do with Simian.

I agree, and had forgot about they used different alias', sorry.

[Kat_Gram]

Maybe the KLPD moved to the other island because the ARUBANS are not to be trusted. Based on the past history as we have seen.
Or maybe they saw Julia peeking thru their windows.

[Frijole]

Now, do you remember her saying she was getting in trouble for posting about the case?
It seems to me the word was out very early on to NOT post anything relevant from Aruba.

I didn't remember that til I read what you wrote... do I have to give back the trip to Alaska?  LOL

[Artcolley]

Arubagirl is calling us dimwits again, in light of the company she keeps maybe that's a compliment      

Is that because we dare to venture that she could have posted as Simian?  Or because she knows we know something she doesn't want told?  Just curious. Sorry.  I will behave for a while.

SHe is just trying to appeal to her "BUDDIES" at the batcave.
Too gullible, that one.

[bleachedblack]

I know this is OT but I had posted a few months back that the FBI had taken Amy Bradley off their Missing Persons list, and she was for a short time. It appears to be have been a temporary thing as they have updated her information.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/bradley_a.htm

[Grande]

Arubagirl is calling us dimwits again, in light of the company she keeps maybe that's a compliment      

Is that because we dare to venture that she could have posted as Simian?  Or because she knows we know something she doesn't want told?  Just curious. Sorry.  I will behave for a while.

Personally, I don't believe AG has anything to do with Simian.

I agree, and had forgot about they used different alias', sorry.

S/B... Forgot they, Aruba Girl and ArubiaGirl, were different alias' altogether.

[blah]

OK, sorry I'll stop, I just get carried away.