Lively Case Discussion #634 6/4 - 6/5/2007

[truthseeker2]

Sorry to change the subject, but I just read this and don't know if it has been mentioned here yet. Taxes on the increase again in Aruba, this from Sunday June 2, Amigoe.

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Water and electricity increase with 12 percent  

ORANJESTAD – Consumers of water and electricity will notice an increase of more or less 12 percent on this month’s utility bill.  Water- and Electricity Company WEB increased the tariffs again in June.  This is due to the increased oil price on the world market.  

The company emphasizes that the price for water consumption won’t increase for 40 percent of the households, because this group does not consume more than 12 cube of water per month.  The tariffs remain the same for this quantity.  The WEB bases the tariff for 12 cube water on a fixed fuel price of 35 dollars per oil barrel for the production of water.  The tariff for more than 12 cube of water and for electricity is based on 51 dollars that WEB pays for one barrel oil.  That is about 23 percent more than what the company had paid for one barrel in May.

http://www.amigoe.com/english/

Imagine how high taxes would be if the boycott was working! /sarc

[bleachedblack]

Sorry to change the subject, but I just read this and don't know if it has been mentioned here yet. Taxes on the increase again in Aruba, this from Sunday June 2, Amigoe.

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Water and electricity increase with 12 percent  

ORANJESTAD – Consumers of water and electricity will notice an increase of more or less 12 percent on this month’s utility bill.  Water- and Electricity Company WEB increased the tariffs again in June.  This is due to the increased oil price on the world market.  

The company emphasizes that the price for water consumption won’t increase for 40 percent of the households, because this group does not consume more than 12 cube of water per month.  The tariffs remain the same for this quantity.  The WEB bases the tariff for 12 cube water on a fixed fuel price of 35 dollars per oil barrel for the production of water.  The tariff for more than 12 cube of water and for electricity is based on 51 dollars that WEB pays for one barrel oil.  That is about 23 percent more than what the company had paid for one barrel in May.

http://www.amigoe.com/english/

Imagine how high taxes would be if the boycott was working! /sarc

   

[truthseeker2]

Hey Klaas, is there a way to find out how close the Haystack mountain is to Moko?  Or, Aruba Haystack Residence?

[klaasend]

Hey Klaas, is there a way to find out how close the Haystack mountain is to Moko?  Or, Aruba Haystack Residence?

I thought Moko was near the VDS and Haystack near the Kalpoes?

[truthseeker2]

Hey Klaas, is there a way to find out how close the Haystack mountain is to Moko?  Or, Aruba Haystack Residence?

I thought Moko was near the VDS and Haystack near the Kalpoes?

Merian Ernest Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: They call him bifrons...
Find Aruba. Find the Haystack. Find Santa Marta. Trace with your finger what the Antenna has spoken about.

Unleash the dogs. Inch by inch...grid by grid.


Merian was Simian..right?  If so, this is an interesting post.  The only Santa Marta I can find on google is in Columbia, so he must be using a local name for an area that is either called something else.

[klaasend]

Hey Klaas, is there a way to find out how close the Haystack mountain is to Moko?  Or, Aruba Haystack Residence?

I thought Moko was near the VDS and Haystack near the Kalpoes?

Merian Ernest Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: They call him bifrons...
Find Aruba. Find the Haystack. Find Santa Marta. Trace with your finger what the Antenna has spoken about.

Unleash the dogs. Inch by inch...grid by grid.


Merian was Simian..right?  If so, this is an interesting post.  The only Santa Marta I can find on google is in Columbia, so he must be using a local name for an area that is either called something else.

Here's a good map. I'll look too:

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

[truthseeker2]

Can you tell if that post was from Simian?  AllyinMiami seems to think it was not from Simian.

[klaasend]

Can you tell if that post was from Simian?  AllyinMiami seems to think it was not from Simian.

Marian Ernest posted at RWV.  I can search and see if I find it.  Hold on.

by the way, there is a Santa Marta in Columbia

[Tylergal]

Sorry to change the subject, but I just read this and don't know if it has been mentioned here yet. Taxes on the increase again in Aruba, this from Sunday June 2, Amigoe.

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Water and electricity increase with 12 percent  

ORANJESTAD – Consumers of water and electricity will notice an increase of more or less 12 percent on this month’s utility bill.  Water- and Electricity Company WEB increased the tariffs again in June.  This is due to the increased oil price on the world market.  

The company emphasizes that the price for water consumption won’t increase for 40 percent of the households, because this group does not consume more than 12 cube of water per month.  The tariffs remain the same for this quantity.  The WEB bases the tariff for 12 cube water on a fixed fuel price of 35 dollars per oil barrel for the production of water.  The tariff for more than 12 cube of water and for electricity is based on 51 dollars that WEB pays for one barrel oil.  That is about 23 percent more than what the company had paid for one barrel in May.

http://www.amigoe.com/english/

  Tax them into prosperity.  That's the socialist way.  Raise taxes to help the base and it chases away the investors who provide the jobs.  Smart Arubans, very smart.  They need a lesson in Economics 001.

[Tylergal]

Hey Klaas, is there a way to find out how close the Haystack mountain is to Moko?  Or, Aruba Haystack Residence?

My grandson used to wake up at night and cry that Natalee was taken to the Haystack.  He knew absolutely nothing about the case except that he knew of her through the publicity and the fact that they were from the same area.  He was very upset that no one would look in that haystack.  This is not a farm kid who knows anything about haystacks.  It was troubling to us all and we had never heard about Haystack in Aruba and I asked, and was told it is near the K2s house.

[klaasend]

Searching now, be back in a few minutes  

[truthseeker2]

I see Hooiberg is Dutch for haystack.  Don't the Kalpoes live in Hooiberg?

[bleachedblack]

I see Hooiberg is Dutch for haystack.  Don't the Kalpoes live in Hooiberg?

From what I know The Haystack is Hooiberg, and that is near where the K's liveyes. Moko is near VDS.

[truthseeker2]

Hey Klaas, is there a way to find out how close the Haystack mountain is to Moko?  Or, Aruba Haystack Residence?

My grandson used to wake up at night and cry that Natalee was taken to the Haystack.  He knew absolutely nothing about the case except that he knew of her through the publicity and the fact that they were from the same area.  He was very upset that no one would look in that haystack.  This is not a farm kid who knows anything about haystacks.  It was troubling to us all and we had never heard about Haystack in Aruba and I asked, and was told it is near the K2s house.

That's freaky!  Canashito is very near Hooiberg.  That's one place that a search was conducted, but nothing found.  I don't think Canashito is where the quarry is, is it?  That's not very close to Joran's house.

[truthseeker2]

Merian Ernest Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: They call him bifrons...
Find Aruba. Find the Haystack. Find Santa Marta. Trace with your finger what the Antenna has spoken about.

Unleash the dogs. Inch by inch...grid by grid.


Maybe this is a reference to the cell towers that were identified from the phone records?

[klaasend]

I see Hooiberg is Dutch for haystack.  Don't the Kalpoes live in Hooiberg?

Yes they do

I don't think I'm going to be able to find that Merian Ernest post.  Dan Riehl perged alot of the posts and I'm not finding it.

[bleachedblack]

This is a good map of the mid to northern part of island. Moko Dam is in the middle at the very bottom of map. sorry Klaas, I know I'm going to blow the margins, my hope is that it's at the bottom of the page, and that Lal's isn't around with her pad and pencil.

[truthseeker2]

I see Hooiberg is Dutch for haystack.  Don't the Kalpoes live in Hooiberg?

Yes they do

I don't think I'm going to be able to find that Merian Ernest post.  Dan Riehl perged alot of the posts and I'm not finding it.

Okay.  Thanks for trying.

[bleachedblack]

Yeooowza  

[Tylergal]

Hey Klaas, is there a way to find out how close the Haystack mountain is to Moko?  Or, Aruba Haystack Residence?

My grandson used to wake up at night and cry that Natalee was taken to the Haystack.  He knew absolutely nothing about the case except that he knew of her through the publicity and the fact that they were from the same area.  He was very upset that no one would look in that haystack.  This is not a farm kid who knows anything about haystacks.  It was troubling to us all and we had never heard about Haystack in Aruba and I asked, and was told it is near the K2s house.

That's freaky!  Canashito is very near Hooiberg.  That's one place that a search was conducted, but nothing found.  I don't think Canashito is where the quarry is, is it?  That's not very close to Joran's house.

I thought the whole island was canoshito.