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Author Topic: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1  (Read 360969 times)
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« Reply #720 on: August 21, 2011, 05:28:41 PM »

http://www.oprahnyc.com/arubamurdersuspect.htm

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Video shows the pair at the Rum Beef Bar & Grill in the Baby Beach area of the island where Ms Gardner went missing.

Restaurant staff have told investigators that the woman seemed woozy while they ate.

Surveillance footage also shows Giordano in his rental car at the back of the restaurant, but the car had tinted windows so no one else in the vehicle can be seen.

Yet CNN says there are no cameras in the back.   
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« Reply #721 on: August 21, 2011, 06:38:41 PM »

http://www.oprahnyc.com/arubamurdersuspect.htm

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Video shows the pair at the Rum Beef Bar & Grill in the Baby Beach area of the island where Ms Gardner went missing.

Restaurant staff have told investigators that the woman seemed woozy while they ate.

Surveillance footage also shows Giordano in his rental car at the back of the restaurant, but the car had tinted windows so no one else in the vehicle can be seen.

Yet CNN says there are no cameras in the back.   

It seems odd to me, with the location and considering the crime in Aruba that they would have multiple surveillance cameras in front, but none in back?  If there are no doors or windows on the back of the building I might understand it, but in Aruba the thieves often go in from the roof, so it still puzzles me that if they're going to have surveillance, they wouldn't have cameras on the entire building.  JADS runs both places from my understanding, and with their inventory (especially the dive equip and liquor) and the remote location; surveillance makes sense.

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Maybe they don't always close early?

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #722 on: August 21, 2011, 07:05:19 PM »

PLANNING A VACATION IN ARUBA?  NOTE THIS!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/20/earlyshow/saturday/main20094961.shtml

Suspicion of Gary Giordano mounts in Aruba

(CBS News)  Aruban investigators have postponed until early next week a massive, island-wide search for Robyn Gardner, saying they needed more time to prepare, reports CBS News Correspondent Kelly Cobiella.

It's been 18 days since the 35-year-old from Frederick, Md. vanished.

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Between not examining Giordano's rental car, and taking their sweet ass time to search for Robyn, it's almost as if the Aruba Police are in the business of destroying evidence, or hoping that if they wait long enough it will be destroyed.

It would be interesting to know if they collected any forensic evidence at all from the hotel room, besides Giordano's camera. 

 




American Bud Larson who also went missing in Aruba had his wallet found between the sofa cushions by the next people to rent his room.

Typical Aruban investigation it seems.
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« Reply #723 on: August 21, 2011, 07:22:09 PM »

I think these pictures are from behind the dive center and restaurant...I've cropped some of them.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150315135231183.439795.41771906182











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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #724 on: August 21, 2011, 07:29:59 PM »

You will need to scroll over to see the whole picture.  I think the part I put the red square around could be an abandoned part of the old Nanki Club?

I've read about that somewhere recently...

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150315135231183.439795.41771906182



I think the building in the background in this shot could be a continuation of what's seen in the picture above.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #725 on: August 21, 2011, 07:38:17 PM »

PLANNING A VACATION IN ARUBA?  NOTE THIS!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/20/earlyshow/saturday/main20094961.shtml

Suspicion of Gary Giordano mounts in Aruba

(CBS News)  Aruban investigators have postponed until early next week a massive, island-wide search for Robyn Gardner, saying they needed more time to prepare, reports CBS News Correspondent Kelly Cobiella.

It's been 18 days since the 35-year-old from Frederick, Md. vanished.

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Between not examining Giordano's rental car, and taking their sweet ass time to search for Robyn, it's almost as if the Aruba Police are in the business of destroying evidence, or hoping that if they wait long enough it will be destroyed.

It would be interesting to know if they collected any forensic evidence at all from the hotel room, besides Giordano's camera. 

 




American Bud Larson who also went missing in Aruba had his wallet found between the sofa cushions by the next people to rent his room.

Typical Aruban investigation it seems.

Yes, it does seem that way.  More and more every day...sad for Robyn's loved ones.   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #726 on: August 21, 2011, 08:01:31 PM »

Hi monkeys! 

Thank you Klaas for moving Robyn to the high profile section. Lemme catch up & see what I missed, that way I won't duplicate anything.

Not to sound condescending but this story just gets creepier & creepier. I'm not sure of the sub-threads, like how to list them, but I'm thinking 1 for photos, 1 for social media, 1 for who's who, 1 for legal docs...or has this already been done? I'm an idiot to miss a couple days & hop right in without double-checking! Good gosh! 
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« Reply #727 on: August 21, 2011, 08:03:11 PM »

I knew I remembered something about a psychic from back in 2007.  If I remember Nanki due to this old article could Gary Giordano also have remembered?




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« Reply #728 on: August 21, 2011, 08:25:49 PM »

My mind has been racing with possibilities since I've seen the back of those buildings and how secluded some areas are.

IMO, they were in this area for a reason, and it wasn't to snorkel.

If they stayed at the Renaissance as most MSM is reporting, or at the Marriott Aruba Resort and Stellaris Casino as some have reported; they drove 15-20 miles to get there.  Past many beaches and restaurants, many better snorkeling areas.

They drove practically from one end of the island to the other, if they were staying at the Aruba Marriott; approximately five miles less if the Renaissance...and Robyn vanishes.

Why?

I hope I have these right, I am not a map person.   

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Proximity to Venezuela and Curacao.



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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #729 on: August 21, 2011, 08:37:12 PM »

I knew I remembered something about a psychic from back in 2007.  If I remember Nanki due to this old article could Gary Giordano also have remembered?






Papiamentu translation of the titles

according clarividente natalee holloway will is bury behind nanki club

natalee holloway his soul is behind nanki club

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=785.msg112630#msg112630

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The above article from Awemainta ran through the Pap translator:

till still the name natalee holloway is sound constantemente at merca. esta the child muher mericano cu owing to come of vacacion at aruba y on his ultimo day owing to desaparece misteriosamente without let rastro behind. sospecha of autoridadnan is cu the do not at life more. sinembargo the curpa or algo cu is indica cu the do not life more, not owing to being achieve never after of his desaparicion on 30 of half, 2005. informacion cu awemainta owing to ricibi is cu have one clarividente, one person of edad end, cu owing to know visit aruba regularly. y one of the lugarnan cu the likes go relaha is at baby beach. at three occasion end the clarividente here, that his name not owing to being suministra at awemainta, will owing to indica at personanan cu is work at the beach, cu the is feel cierto vibracionnan pisa cu have of haber cu the child muher natalee holloway. y the vibracionnan here is indica cu the child muher is (dera) behind nanki club, esta the part cu is stay for sea. the is believe cu the will is one pista for autoridadnan yet haci one investigacion ey slow.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #730 on: August 21, 2011, 08:38:39 PM »

Klaas,

RE Gary Giordano knowing about it, IMO anyone could have seen it here.  Your screen shots wouldn't have gone poof until recently...
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #731 on: August 21, 2011, 09:05:23 PM »

Klaas,

RE Gary Giordano knowing about it, IMO anyone could have seen it here.  Your screen shots wouldn't have gone poof until recently...

Right and I mean from the Psychic.  If I remember correctly it was also in the Enquirer or Globe
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« Reply #732 on: August 21, 2011, 09:10:22 PM »

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« Reply #733 on: August 21, 2011, 09:24:25 PM »

Holy cow. Still catching up. Giordano doesn't look too good right about now. Bug I'm wondering if Forester is as good as he perceives. What about Gardner? Have we figured out the correct Kenneth Gardner?

There's several social networking / adult friend finder sites that I came across last week that have connections to Robyn & Gary.

Also, why does the media keep reporting that Robyn went to Aruba with a man she barely knew? That's not true! Not in the least! She saw him off & on, she might have just hidden some of the jucier details from her boyfriend.

I think she was playing them both or else maybe she was involved in something shady, like paid dating.

Oh, one more thing, why is the "race" for Gardner & Giordano listed the way it is on their police records?
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« Reply #734 on: August 21, 2011, 09:41:51 PM »

On the 17th I copied the fb wall of Missing Robyn Gardner. It had some pretty interesting info in it, some of which has been deleted. Alot of the disparaging remarks turned out to be true. Here's the link to the full post:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11999.msg1463482#msg1463482
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« Reply #735 on: August 21, 2011, 10:00:04 PM »

It's been said on the net that Giordano was sneaky & utilized s keylogging program to monitor unsuspecting women, so he could crack their online account activities & get "into their heads". Here's some basic background info on keylogging for those that may not be familiar with the term. Please know that this is more popular than most may think. This is exactly why one should be careful with their online activities, most especially their banking & investments. Again, this is just general & the quickest link is from Wiki (but it's pretty much on target with explanation):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging
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« Reply #736 on: August 21, 2011, 10:27:32 PM »

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Ken/Gardner

Kenneth Gardner

CEO at Gardner Building Group, Inc.

Washington D.C. Metro Area Construction

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Enthusiastic, profit-driven senior executive. Experienced in managing over $100 million of assets. Able to enhance operational and financial results. Proficient in growing revenue and streamlining processes to maximize profitability and return on assets. Serve as change agent for improved efficiency and greater utilization of human capital to drive productivity. Have established track record of producing sustained revenue and EBITDA growth in dynamic and changing markets. Entrepreneurial perspective helps drive innovative business strategies . Able to lead motivated and focused teams that embrace corporate objectives. Have developed operations management background in homebuilding, construction, materials, and manufacturing industries.

Specialties

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• Six Sigma Black Belt
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Kenneth Gardner's Experience

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Gardner Building Group, Inc. is a Maryland based sustainable commercial and residential building / renovation company. Gardner Building Group, Inc.'s mission is to create innovative and environmentally conscious commercial and residential spaces. The goal of Gardner Building Group, Inc. is to protect the earth's natural environment and deliver a product that is value minded and on-time. We are committed to a practical, affordable, and personal approach. Our principles are reflected in our dedication to customer satisfaction, quality, value, and integrity. With the environment in crisis, Gardner Building Group, Inc. is acting now to help save tomorrow.

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•Division President, overseeing divisions in WV &VA that produce up to 175 units (down from 300) of single- and multi-family homes annually. Report directly to COO.
• Manage staff of 50 building professionals, including VP of Production, General Sales & Marketing Mgr., Office Director, VP of Purchasing; dotted line management over the Director of Land, and Director of Finance.
• Accountable for operational and financial performance, as well as strategic planning, budgeting, forecasting, personnel development, site/land identification, acquisition and development, product development, value engineering, marketing, sales, procurement, production, customer service, etc.
• Reduced overhead costs, decreased cycle times, maintained profitable gross margin in depressed economy

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Directed staff of 250 building professionals as well as VP of Construction, Purchasing, Director of Customer Service, for division that produced over 1,100 units annually.
• Accountable for operational and financial performance, as well as human resources, information technology, purchasing, strategic planning, budgeting, forecasting, and sales and marketing.
• Reduced cycle times by monitoring and managing production, construction and delivery activities.

Boosted JD Powers customer-satisfaction rating

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(More info at the link)

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http://www.danryanbuilders.com/about-us/news-and-press-details.cfm?news_id=111

April 10, 2008 — Dan Ryan Builders donates land to Habitat for Humanity

Habitat for Humanity NEWS ALERT

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“We are thrilled to be able to support such a worthwhile program.  This is just one way we put into action our mission of making the dream of home ownership a reality for as many as possible,” stated, Martinsburg Division President Ken Gardner.

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http://danryanbuilders.blogspot.com/2007/12/dan-ryan-builders-gives-to-united-way.html

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2007

Dan Ryan Builders Gives to United Way

Ken Gardner, Martinsburg Division President of Dan Ryan Builders attended a campaign progress review meeting of the United Way of the Eastern Panhandle to announce that they would be making a $25,000 donation to the 2007-08 fund drive. Gardner said that “We at Dan Ryan Builders are very excited that we are able to continue our support of the United Way in this down turn of the housing market. It’s a great feeling for all of us to give back to the community.”
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #737 on: August 21, 2011, 10:35:23 PM »

You guys might already have this but if not here's the link:

http://www.realitywanted.com/robynlgardner
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« Reply #738 on: August 21, 2011, 11:24:16 PM »

It's been said on the net that Giordano was sneaky & utilized s keylogging program to monitor unsuspecting women, so he could crack their online account activities & get "into their heads". Here's some basic background info on keylogging for those that may not be familiar with the term. Please know that this is more popular than most may think. This is exactly why one should be careful with their online activities, most especially their banking & investments. Again, this is just general & the quickest link is from Wiki (but it's pretty much on target with explanation):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging

I pity the fool that puts a keylogger on my computer.....I'm a TERRIBLE typist!   
would make somebody NUTS!

Thanks, Titch.  Hey I wonder if that's why Sogeti was an "interested party" in Gary Giordano's divorce?  Maybe he used something he had access to through his employment with Sogeti to keep tabs on his wife?  I dunno, it's been bugging me why his employer would be an interested party in a divorce proceeding.

Anyway, looks like you guys have been hard at work, as usual.  Great info you have gathered.

TM and Klaas, the maps and pictures of Nanki are making me feel sick all over again.  That is the last part of the island where some tourists would go snorkeling.  I forgot how isolated and scrubby looking it is.  But certainly not very far to Venezuela! 

Wonder how that false info about a bloody handprint got started and topped the headlines last week.  How easily the Aruban Police gloss over it a week later, and say it's not true.  Here we go again with the leaks, false info, innuendo.   

 

Maybe tomorrow we will get some news.  My thoughts are with Robyn and her loved ones.

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« Reply #739 on: August 21, 2011, 11:28:22 PM »

http://www.danryanbuilders.com/about-us/news-and-press-details.cfm?news_id=11

April 25, 2007 — Dan Ryan Builders Donates to the Eastern West Virginia Community Foundation

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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