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« Reply #60 on: August 30, 2011, 10:43:46 PM »

Agreed Klaas



Agreed about Gary not selling Robyn but murdering her...

Wouldn't put selling females by Giordano or Joran past either of them..both r opportunists and scanners with no regard for women

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« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2011, 12:19:04 AM »

Since last Saturday ... the American media has been focused on Hurricane Irene and its aftermath.  What has been going on behind the scenes in Aruba in regards to the Robyn Gardner case?

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Page 182:  September 1 Helen calls to say the court is asking for DNA from the Kalpoes and Joran van der Sloot and that their attorneys are fighting this.  She also says the suspects are pointing the finger at one another. ....

Helen is very positive.  "It looks good that they will remain in custody" she says.  Then just three hours after she tells me this encouraging news, a devastating call comes from an AP reporter.  Paulus van der Sloot and his attorney are bragging to everyone that all three suspects are getting out day after tomorrow!.  Then all the media start calling.  I call Helen, then FBI agent Bill and the U.S. vice-consul.  None of them have this information. So we tell the media it must be a rumor.  But the word is out all over the island from the defense side that all three suspects will walk.  Four and a half hours after this announcement is made to international media by Joran's father and his defense team, the FBI calls to tell me that it is indeed true.  So the three suspects who were last seen with my daughter, and who offered multiple versions of what happened that night, will go free.   And we are the last ones to find out.

Pages 184: The opportunity to hide behind Hurricane Katrina is too inviting.  The three suspects will be released while all eyes are turned to the devastation in New Orlean.

Page 185: The last announcement I make on television is never seen.  Hurrican Katrina gives the island the cloak of cover it needs to let the suspects walk free and relieve itself of its media burden. ....

The island authorities originally planned to release the three suspects at two o-clock in the morning on Saturday, September 3.  The Strategic Communications Task Force undoubtedly helped them make a less conspicuous move and release them in the afternoon instead.

Curious to see the setup at the van der Sloot house for Joran's parade of victory, I drive by there, never in a million years expecting to see who is there.  It's the U.S. vice-consul.  At the van der Sloots' house.  Why is she here?   She spots me.  Jumps in her car and follows me to a resturant parking lot, waving, honking, calling on the cell phone.  I don't want to talk to her.  Who can we trust?


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« Reply #62 on: August 31, 2011, 12:20:23 AM »

I don't think she was sold and I also don't think Joran sold anyone.  I think Joran used any one he could to get what he wanted but i don't think he sold women.  I think he stole from them and used them and murdered Natalee. 

I believe that Giordano killed Robyn.

 
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« Reply #63 on: August 31, 2011, 01:50:57 AM »


Great job TM.  I couldn't make the Capgemini SA connection.

What the hale?!?

 


Thanks Helen Back   

Now I wish I knew what it all means, if anything.   

Back to one of our original questions......How many times has Giordano traveled to Aruba and what associations does he have there?

Since much of the info we are getting is from ABC, whose articles continue to quote "an Aruban Police Source", I don't anticipate answers to pertinent questions.  IMO, they leak out what they want to suggest.

I did read that the Aruban Police have Robyn's computer, and are "considering sending it to the Netherlands for examination". 

I guess like they are considering getting some dogs in to search for her. This nonsense is all too familiar.   

Hopefully, the FBI has learned more about Giordano's associations and travels since they searched his home.  IMO, they are our best hope.
 

If Gary Giordano had never been to Aruba before, and he did kill Robyn and hide her body...he just got lucky with the hiding place?  Or have they found her, like they found Natalee?

No body, no proof of a crime on the happy island?   

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« Reply #64 on: August 31, 2011, 08:48:17 AM »

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-woman-robyn-gardner-met-aruba-murder-suspect/story?id=14418807
Robyn Gardner Met Murder Suspect on Swingers' Site, Friend Claims
By ASHLEIGH BANFIELD (@ABCAshleigh) , JASON STINE, ALEXA MIRANDA and JESSICA HOPPER (@jesshop23)
ARUBA Aug. 31, 2011

Video at link.
Gary Giordano and missing woman Robyn Gardner met online on the web site "Adult Friend Finder," which describes itself as "the world's largest sex and swinger personals community," Gardner's friend told Aruban investigators.
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« Reply #65 on: August 31, 2011, 11:11:58 AM »


Solicitor General Taco Stein's silence in the media/talk show circuit since last Friday has been deafening.  What is going on behind the scenes?  Today will be interesting day in regards to what direction the Robyn Gardner case will take.

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Posted at 07:27 AM ET, 08/31/2011
Suspect in case of woman missing in Aruba to appear in court Wednesday
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The Gaithersburg man held in Aruba in connection with the disappearance of a Maryland woman is due in court Wednesday for a hearing at which he may learn whether he will continue to be detained.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post_now/post/suspect-in-case-of-woman-missing-in-aruba-to-appear-in-court-wednesday/2011/08/31/gIQA1DGcrJ_blog.html
 

 

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« Reply #66 on: August 31, 2011, 11:18:06 AM »

CCTV shows 'major fight between Robyn Gardner and Aruba murder suspect Gary Giordano' as friend claims the pair met on swingers sex site
Last updated at 3:42 PM on 31st August 2011


Shocking CCTV footage shows missing American tourist Robyn Gardner having a violent fight with her travel companion hours before her disappearance in Aruba, it has been reported.

Prime murder suspect Gary Giordano, who friends said she met on a swingers sex site, is thought to have threatened to kill her while grabbing her by the neck and shoving her into an elevator on August 2 - the last day Miss Gardner, 35, was seen alive.

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« Reply #67 on: August 31, 2011, 11:19:06 AM »

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-woman-robyn-gardner-met-aruba-murder-suspect/story?id=14418807
Robyn Gardner Met Murder Suspect on Swingers' Site, Friend Claims
By ASHLEIGH BANFIELD (@ABCAshleigh) , JASON STINE, ALEXA MIRANDA and JESSICA HOPPER (@jesshop23)
ARUBA Aug. 31, 2011

Video at link.
Gary Giordano and missing woman Robyn Gardner met online on the web site "Adult Friend Finder," which describes itself as "the world's largest sex and swinger personals community," Gardner's friend told Aruban investigators.
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The plot thickens.

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« Reply #68 on: August 31, 2011, 11:37:46 AM »

Published August 31, 2011[/b]

Gary Giordano of Maryland has been jailed nearly a month, since the disappearance of Robyn Gardner. Police and prosecutors on the Dutch Caribbean island need a judge's consent to keep holding him while they continue their probe.

Wednesday's hearing at a prison is closed to the public and news media. Solicitor General Taco Stein says prosecutors believe they have enough evidence to get another 60 days of detention. If the judge rules otherwise, prosecutors are expected to appeal.

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« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2011, 01:17:20 PM »

I'd still like to hear more about Forester's background. The media is concentrating on Giordano as being a murderer but Forester also raises my hinky meter. I mean, at least there's pics of Giordano with his boys laughing & having fun. Forester has 3 children, also, but where are the pics showing him laughing & having fun with them? Forester owes ALOT of back support, or gas that been caught up? Does he live in a million dollar house like Giordank or an apartment/condo? How many suits have been placed against him? Just curious...
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« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2011, 01:19:59 PM »

Thanks For the updates swinger club omg
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« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2011, 01:24:12 PM »

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?gl=us&source=mog&q=cache:EiHTFBycnm4J:crimesceneusa.blogspot.com/2011/08/shocking-robyn-gardner-modeling-photos.html

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MORE SHOCKING details are emerging about the secret life of Robyn Gardner. The pretty 35-year-old Maryland dental assistant also had modeling aspirations and we've (thanks to Chelsea Hoffman at Gather.com) have got our hand on some fairly provocative pictures. Gardner vanished in Aruba on Aug. 2 after going on a saucy holiday with secret beau Gary Giordano (behind the back of her other boyfriend.) It seems there were some photos "beyond pornographic" on Giordano's camera of Gardner, who cops suspect has been murdered.





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« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2011, 01:26:42 PM »

The missing pic in my last post:

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« Reply #73 on: August 31, 2011, 01:28:57 PM »

 
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« Reply #74 on: August 31, 2011, 01:55:59 PM »

http://www.modelmayhem.com/1669069


Elle Gardner
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I want to model!!! Have only done 3 shoots with an aspiring photographer ( all with in the last 3 weeks). I am a true ham and have been called a natural. I am open to any and all photography... at the end of the day it truly is art. My photo was taken last Thursday by a professional and I quote him... " they aren't going to believe you are real". I took that as a complement.


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Height:    5' 6"

Weight:    110 lbs

Bust:    0"

Waist:    24"

Hips:    27"

Cup:   D

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Shoe:   8.0

Hair color:   Blonde

Hair length:   Very Long

Eye color:   Brown

Ethnicity:   Caucasian

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Shoot nudes:   Yes

Experience:   Some Experience

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« Reply #75 on: August 31, 2011, 02:22:31 PM »

Learning more about Gardner and seeing these pics.  I would say she was a perfect target, living a very risque and secretive life.  Of course, I STRESS there is NO excuse for MURDER!  I really don't think she was well prepped for a real modeling career.  Her facial expressions are too fake and forced, she appears to be amatuerish.  She appears to have had some work done on her  face and the boobs look fake.  With this all being said,  I see a girl, who was probably harmless and very nice, but had very low self esteem, seeking attention with her looks and sexuality an quite likely drinking away some internal pain.  Those attract the wrong kind of people and at her age, she hadn't got passed that or found a sense of peace with herself.  I don't believe Forestor provided her the attention she so much yearned for, and/or, she obviously loved to live dangerously, refusing to grow up.  She continued searching else where, handing herself over on a silver platter  to a dangerous, sick, control freak!  I have no doubt he is guilty and needs to pay!  Will he, in Aruba?  All I can say, is this is their opportunity to do the right thing for once.  Icing on the cake would be something about Natalee pops up for Beth and Dave's closure, however much it may be wishful thinking.

I am not condoning or comdeming anything, except for my belief in Giardoni, most likely killed.  I am just stating some of my own observations.  I hate the fact women have the need to feel sexy and loved by for body appearance.  It's sad our society encourages this perception starting at such a young age.     JMO
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« Reply #76 on: August 31, 2011, 02:39:36 PM »

Learning more about Gardner and seeing these pics.  I would say she was a perfect target, living a very risque and secretive life.  Of course, I STRESS there is NO excuse for MURDER!  I really don't think she was well prepped for a real modeling career.  Her facial expressions are too fake and forced, she appears to be amatuerish.  She appears to have had some work done on her  face and the boobs look fake.  With this all being said,  I see a girl, who was probably harmless and very nice, but had very low self esteem, seeking attention with her looks and sexuality an quite likely drinking away some internal pain.  Those attract the wrong kind of people and at her age, she hadn't got passed that or found a sense of peace with herself.  I don't believe Forestor provided her the attention she so much yearned for, and/or, she obviously loved to live dangerously, refusing to grow up.  She continued searching else where, handing herself over on a silver platter  to a dangerous, sick, control freak!  I have no doubt he is guilty and needs to pay!  Will he, in Aruba?  All I can say, is this is their opportunity to do the right thing for once.  Icing on the cake would be something about Natalee pops up for Beth and Dave's closure, however much it may be wishful thinking.

I am not condoning or comdeming anything, except for my belief in Giardoni, most likely killed.  I am just stating some of my own observations.  I hate the fact women have the need to feel sexy and loved by for body appearance.  It's sad our society encourages this perception starting at such a young age.    JMO

Also, I believe her stats were embellished, which is very common for models. IMO, based on her shape & recent pics, & my past experience with portfolio structure, there's no way she's 110. She's had a breast enlargement & silicone adds weight. She also doesn't appear 5'6. Reports have shown 5'5, most notably her missing profile. Also, the lingerie she's wearing is see-through but you can't tell due to the shading. Here's a true picture of the lingerie she's wearing for comparison:

Robyn's MM Pics:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/1669069/viewall



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« Reply #77 on: August 31, 2011, 02:41:35 PM »

Dihannah1, I agree. Sad isn't it?
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« Reply #78 on: August 31, 2011, 03:02:19 PM »

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #79 on: August 31, 2011, 03:07:16 PM »

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

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HLN reports the hearing is over and now awaiting the decision.
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