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« Reply #900 on: November 30, 2011, 07:09:23 PM »


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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #901 on: November 30, 2011, 07:26:36 PM »

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20549645,00.html

Robyn Gardner's Boyfriend, Family Frustrated as Gary Giordano Is Freed

By Nicole Weisensee Egan and Tim Nudd

Wednesday November 30, 2011 07:15 AM EST

With Gary Giordano, the main suspect in the case, freed on Tuesday, family and friends of Robyn Gardner, who went missing in Aruba almost four months ago, have spoken of their frustration at still not having any answers.

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Meanwhile, Gardner's cousin, Kelly Reed, released her own statement saying the family is frustrated but also hopeful that answers will eventually be forthcoming.

"Needless to say, our family is very disappointed that even after all this time, we are no closer to finding out what happened to our Robyn," Reed said. "We trust that the FBI and the Aruban authorities will continue their fervent efforts to investigate her disappearance."

Reed added: "As we deal with our grief privately, we are honored by the strength that Robyn's friends have shown by speaking out on her behalf publicly. Perhaps the public attention that this has generated will result in someone stepping forward with information that will help find her. In the meantime, we hope everyone will continue to keep Robyn in their prayers."

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #902 on: November 30, 2011, 08:14:08 PM »

JVM had Richard Forester on for a minute, iirc she referred to him as "devoted".   

She really should do her homework.

I throw up in my mouth a little bit every time I see him on TV.

 

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #903 on: November 30, 2011, 08:23:19 PM »

JVM had Richard Forester on for a minute, iirc she referred to him as "devoted".   

She really should do her homework.

I throw up in my mouth a little bit every time I see him on TV.

 

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« Reply #904 on: November 30, 2011, 09:14:54 PM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/rosenwald-md/post/its-natalee-holloway-deja-vu-says-john-walsh/2011/11/30/gIQAwAn6CO_blog.html

Posted at 12:29 PM ET, 11/30/2011
‘It’s Natalee Holloway deja vu,’ says John Walsh
By Michael S. Rosenwald

I just got off the phone with “America’s Most Wanted” host John Walsh, who blasted Aruban authorities for their investigation into the case of Robyn Gardner, the Maryland woman who went missing on the island while vacationing there this summer with Gary Giordano.

“It’s Natalee Holloway deja vu,” Walsh told me, in between filming the premiere episode of his show, which airs Friday. “In my personal opinion, nobody in the world knows what happened to this woman except this guy.”

This guy — Giordano, a Gaithersburg businessman — had been locked up in Aruba since August while authorities there tried to build a case against him in Gardner’s disappearance. Giordano, who took out a $1.5 million travel insurance policy on his companion before the trip, says she went missing while they were snorkeling.

The authorities don’t believe him. A judge released him yesterday, and he’s apparently headed back to the United States.

“This is another not so stellar job for the Aruban police,” Walsh said, referencing the handling of Holloway’s apparent death, allegedly at the hands of Joran van der Sloot. “It’s pretty sickening. It’s sickening for the families. It’s sickening for everyone. It’s a travesty of justice and heartbreaking.”

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« Reply #905 on: November 30, 2011, 10:03:34 PM »

this IS really sickening!
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« Reply #906 on: November 30, 2011, 11:23:52 PM »

this IS really sickening!

 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #907 on: December 01, 2011, 12:10:54 AM »

I'd like to see a body language expert's opinion on this one.   

If you missed it but can catch the replay you really need to watch it...especially Richard Forester imo.

Dr. Drew put some good questions out there, did Richard Forester really answer them? 

Dr. Drew gave him the chance to clear it all up!  Did he?  IMO, not at all.

Study his answers carefully, and then think about what you know; and what you've seen.   

IMO Dr. Drew KNOWS, he knew from the first time Richard Forester was on his show. 






http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1111/30/ddhln.01.html

DR. DREW

Gary Giordano Released from Aruban Jail; Concerns about Arsenic in Apple Juice

Aired November 30, 2011 - 21:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


DR. DREW PINSKY, HOST: Here we go.

The suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner is back in the U.S. tonight. Her friends are here and they aren`t happy.

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Let`s get started.

Welcome. And tonight, Gary Giordano, the man suspected in the disappearance of his travel companion, Robyn Gardner, is a free man. He`d been in custody in Aruba for nearly four months now. Prosecutors apparently did not have enough evidence to hold him any longer. Watch.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The man held in Aruba in connection with a Maryland woman`s disappearance is now free and probably headed back to the United States.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That leaves no one in custody for the presumed death of Robyn Gardner.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Apparently, this guy would go online, get to know women in their late 40s who were in good shape, attractive women.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He was erratic. He was a little violent.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He and Robyn Gardner visited Aruba last summer together. Investigators say he told them they were snorkeling when she disappeared.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Should they decide to extradite him, Gary`s not going to run from anything.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But he remains, prosecutors say, the prime suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PINSKY: Gardner vanished in Aruba over the summer. Aruban authorities say Gary Giordano is the prime suspect. Giordano`s back in the United States tonight.

Joining me to discuss this, Criminal Defense Attorney, Mike Eiglarsh; Richard Forrester, Robyn Gardner`s boyfriend, and with us by phone, Reece Armstrong, she`s a good friend of Robyn.

Reece, do you have an initial reaction to Gary`s release?

REECE ARMSTRONG, FRIEND OF ROBYN GARDNER, FREDERICK, MARYLAND (via telephone): I mean, obviously, it angered all of us. We definitely know that he`s guilty, so, you know, it`s pretty disappointing.

PINSKY: Here`s Chris Lejuez, attorney for Gary Giordano talking about Gary`s reaction to being released. Watch this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CHRIS LEJUEZ, GARY GIORDANO`S ARUBA ATTORNEY: His first reaction was that he couldn`t believe it, because he has been, in the meantime, lost all expectations and confidence in our system. His second was an emotional reaction, whereby when I asked him what he really feels about his release, he started to cry, and asked me to excuse him for a few minutes, which I did.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PINSKY: Now, Reece, you knew both Robyn and you also knew Giordano, is that correct?

ARMSTRONG: No, I never met Gary.

PINSKY: Never met him. Do you feel the Aruban authorities did everything they could to find Robyn?

ARMSTRONG: You know, their laws are very different from ours, so I can`t blame Aruba from what happened. Definitely with Gary, his stories don`t add up at all. So I feel that there could have been more done. You know, it`s someone that we love, so of course we`re going to feel that way.

PINSKY: Reece, I don`t in any way want to disparage Rob - the memory of Robyn, but the people are just trying to figure this out. What was she doing down there with that guy? And I think - and have you and I spoken before, Reece?

ARMSTRONG: I believe so, yes.

PINSKY: Yes. And it`s the same kind of question I had for you last time, which is, we`re all shaking our head going, come on, what was going on there? And does Robyn have any culpability here, and is some innocent man being held down there for four months? What do you say to people who think that way?

ARMSTRONG: I can understand why people think that way, for sure. I mean, like I said before, you know, Robyn was going through a hard time, she just lost her job, and, you know, Gary, a trusted friend of hers, not a boyfriend, a friend, had offered her that I have this trip, you know, do you want to go on a trip? And so she went to clear her mind, I guess.

PINSKY: Now, we know now - we know, as you said, that apparently they were friends, but they apparently met on a website, we`re hearing? I`m hearing lots of rumors, so I want to try to toss them out here. I don`t know what`s fact and what`s fiction, but one thing I`m hearing is they found one other on an adult website, friendfinder.com, and we also hear that very inappropriate, you know, pornographic-kinds of pictures of Robyn were found on Giordano`s camera.

Look at the Aruba Solicitor General Taco Stein on NBC`s "Today" Show.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MATT LAUER, CO-ANCHOR, NBC`S "TODAY" SHOW: There are reports this morning I`d like you to comment about that photographs have been found on the digital camera belonging to Mr. Giordano that have been described by some as beyond pornographic.

TACO STEIN, ARUBA SOLICITOR GENERAL: I can admit that a camera has been confiscated and is looked at presently by the police to see what`s on it and whether or not it has bearing on our investigation. Well, you understand that I`m not in the position to comment upon what`s upon the camera, what kind of pictures those are.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PINSKY: Richard, I`m going to echo my friend Matt Lauer and ask you to comment on that observation or that alleged story.

RICHARD FORESTER, ROBYN GARDNER`S BOYFRIEND: Sure. You know, I couldn`t - didn`t see the pictures, I don`t know what context they were taken in. Certainly, I`ve got my own questions about it, but, you know, if those pictures were being taken, I`ll guarantee that those were not voluntarily, you know - she didn`t do it with - under her own free will or she didn`t know that they were happening. That`s really all I could say about it. She would never stand for something like that.

PINSKY: So, Richard, that`s the part, again, I want you to help us -

FORESTER: Sure.

PINSKY: -- again, all the people that are out there, hearing this story, hearing it again, shaking their head, trying to figure out how this happened.

FORESTER: You know - you know, Dr. Drew, you know -

PINSKY: Yes, please?

FORESTER: -- here`s the thing. There`s all these rumors, there`s all this BS drama that`s going on, and it`s exactly that. It`s BS. It has nothing to do with anything. You know, the fact is that he got out, yes, he got out of prison. Well, Aruba dropped the ball there, OK. Robyn`s missing.

PINSKY: Yes.

FORESTER: That`s the bottom line there. There`s rumors and there`s rumors about Robyn, there`s rumors about me. There`s rumors about everybody, but none of it matters. None of it pertains to anything.

PINSKY: All right. But Richard - Richard, I love the path you`re going down here. And you`re absolutely right. I think we don`t have a body, we don`t have a story. We have a guy that`s out, held appropriately or inappropriately. We have no idea. We know - we know really no more than we did when this all started.

But do me a favor. Put the rumors to rest. Come on. Let`s do it right now. What have you heard about you, what have you heard about her, and address them right now?

FORESTER: Well, there`s rumors about Robyn that, you know, she had - she was, you know, taking these pictures. Well, she would never stand for that, OK? There`s rumors about me that I`m an accomplice. I mean, come on. Really? There`s rumors about me -

PINSKY: I`ve heard -

FORESTER: Go ahead.

PINSKY: I don`t mean to interrupt you, I`ve heard rumors, and these are really - you know, they`re mean rumors that she was some sort of escort and you didn`t know it. Have you heard those?

FORESTER: I`ve heard that and I laugh at that. That`s ridiculous. Dr. Drew, she spent when she wasn`t at work 95 percent of her time with me. She and I drove to work together. She worked. She and I met each other after work. We went home together. So, you know, that - those rumors are ridiculous. Those are absolutely ridiculous.

PINSKY: Reece - Reece, I`m going to go back out to you and give you a chance to respond to them as well.

ARMSTRONG: I mean, honestly, Dr. Drew, look at the situation. You know, she traveled to Aruba with Gary. There`s video footage of him going to his car, getting cups of what he claims (INAUDIBLE) are orange juice, and all of a sudden she`s gone.

I mean, honestly, it`s pretty obvious to me that he had some kind of drugs involved. So I can`t imagine what else he has on her, or what he did to her.

PINSKY: Wow.

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PINSKY: And Richard, last word to you, 15 seconds, what do you hope, going forward?

FORESTER: I hope they find her. I hope they concentrate more on finding her and track her down somewhere. First of all, remember, she`s missing, and, second of all, we don`t know if she`s dead or not. We can hope and pray, but we - we don`t know.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #908 on: December 01, 2011, 01:12:01 AM »

US man wins Aruba appeal in missing tourist case
November 30, 2011 7:01 PM

 
AP)  ORANJESTAD, Aruba — A U.S. businessman who spent nearly four months in an Aruban jail before a judge ordered his release scored another legal victory Wednesday when an appeals court rejected a prosecution appeal to put him back in pretrial detention.

Gary Giordano had already left Aruba when the three-judge appeals court panel ruled that prosecutors lacked sufficient evidence to continue holding him as a suspect in the disappearance and presumed death of his traveling companion, Robyn Gardner.

The prosecutor's office said it was disappointed with the ruling, still considers Giordano a suspect and is continuing to pursue the case with the assistance of the FBI.

"While we believe the circumstances warranted his detention, we respect the court's ruling," the prosecutor's office said in a statement.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501715_162-57334306/us-man-wins-aruba-appeal-in-missing-tourist-case/
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« Reply #909 on: December 01, 2011, 01:26:54 AM »

The truth always matters.

I can only speak for myself.  I've said this before and I stand by it.  Regardless of what choices Robyn made in her life, she deserves justice.  If she's alive and captive, she needs to be found and rescued.  If she was murdered in Aruba, she should have a proper burial in her country; and her murderer and anyone else involved should be punished.

If you choose to go on nationally televised programs and discuss any missing persons case, you should tell the truth.  It is expected, and when you choose to lie; you will be found out. 

As Titch has pointed out here in Robyn's thread, the truth is of utmost importance to finding her. 

If the truth is hidden, I'm afraid Robyn will remain hidden as well.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #910 on: December 01, 2011, 01:31:23 AM »

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #911 on: December 01, 2011, 08:40:48 AM »

I just caught the end of Gary G's interview (with Byass) on GMA...At the end of the interview, he talked about where they were "snorkeling" it was only half an hour boat ride to Venezuela, a human trafficking area.

Which is it Gary?  I am confused.  She drowned snorkeling or the traffickers snatched her up (while you were with her).  Enlighten us please.
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« Reply #912 on: December 01, 2011, 08:43:18 AM »

I am watching it now..He is soooooooo cocky! he does not want to be asked certain questions and now he says he will conduct his own interview with Robin Roberts..
and he is with Bozo which also makes me sick!
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« Reply #913 on: December 01, 2011, 10:04:41 AM »

I am watching it now..He is soooooooo cocky! he does not want to be asked certain questions and now he says he will conduct his own interview with Robin Roberts..
and he is with Bozo which also makes me sick!
Agree Cookie, they were both cocky & ugly, Robin was too nice to the both of them!
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« Reply #914 on: December 01, 2011, 11:21:17 AM »

The truth always matters.

I can only speak for myself.  I've said this before and I stand by it.  Regardless of what choices Robyn made in her life, she deserves justice.  If she's alive and captive, she needs to be found and rescued.  If she was murdered in Aruba, she should have a proper burial in her country; and her murderer and anyone else involved should be punished.

If you choose to go on nationally televised programs and discuss any missing persons case, you should tell the truth.  It is expected, and when you choose to lie; you will be found out. 

As Titch has pointed out here in Robyn's thread, the truth is of utmost importance to finding her. 

If the truth is hidden, I'm afraid Robyn will remain hidden as well.

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« Reply #915 on: December 01, 2011, 11:21:17 AM »

Giordano denies involvement in Aruba disappearance
By BEN NUCKOLS, Associated Press – 2 hours ago


Gary Giordano, 50, was released from jail Tuesday, and on Wednesday, an appeals court ruled that prosecutors lacked sufficient evidence to continue holding him in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner.

During an 11-minute interview Thursday on ABC television's "Good Morning America," Giordano refused to detail what happened to Robyn Gardner on Aug. 2, the last day she was seen alive, saying he has told that story to investigators "50, 60 times." He has said she was swept out to sea while snorkeling. Her body has not been found.

Giordano tried to clarify aspects of his behavior that investigators have called suspicious. He said the $1.5 million accidental death policy he took out on Gardner was part of a travel insurance package that covered both of them. He said he always takes out travel insurance because he wants his three sons to be protected if something happens to him.

"If I go traveling and I disappear, I want them to be covered. I maxed out on everything," Giordano said.

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« Reply #916 on: December 01, 2011, 11:24:06 AM »

I am watching it now..He is soooooooo cocky! he does not want to be asked certain questions and now he says he will conduct his own interview with Robin Roberts..
and he is with Bozo which also makes me sick!

 
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« Reply #917 on: December 01, 2011, 01:47:46 PM »

He was really trying to have control and I thought came across convincing at times.
 

Gary Giordano stated in this mornings interview that there were plenty of other people around in the water
and saw them.......

1. Why didn't ONE of those people come forward and/or Aruba Polis find them
2. Why didn't ONE of those people help Robyn
3. Why didn't ONE of those people see if Robyn was taken in by a boat and whisked away to Venezuela


I feel sorry for those 3 sons of his standing like body-guards behind their father.




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« Reply #918 on: December 01, 2011, 01:48:59 PM »


Most hated attorney in America next to that finger flinging side kick of his


And that's Gary's dad in the blue shirt.  I thought it was last night but I wasn't sure.  This picture description identified him.

http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/us-man-wins-aruba-appeal-in-missing-tourist-case-1.3356587



You are corrrect - at the end of the tape you can see Gary get off the phone and goes over and hugs his dad.
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« Reply #919 on: December 01, 2011, 02:27:47 PM »

At the end of this video about Vandersloot,Geraldo says he is about to meat with Giordano for an interview.
http://video.insider.foxnews.com/v/1304904422001/9 (12/01/2011)
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