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« Reply #380 on: February 11, 2012, 05:06:55 PM »

Reading at Blink On Crime this afternoon and the generator story Josh told is bothering Blink.  It's bothering me too.  Josh gave specific directions to shut off the utilities. Why do we use utilities? For heat, water, and light where we live. This is probably wishful thinking on my part, but I wouldn't put it past the Powells to have a live Susan stashed somewhere. Josh was very methodical in his planning.  People bent on committing suicide (much less a double murder-suicide) aren't worrying about utilities. The utilities are important to Josh for a reason and Sister Dearest knows where those utilities are located and how to shut them off.  Both Steve and Josh seem so vindictive, killing Susan seems almost too easy. The only other thing that comes to mind for utilities, is that the Powells have cartoon-caricature incest or real child porn (maybe involving the boys) somewhere in their possession.  I would not be surprised if Steve/Josh weren't producing it and it "stars" family members. I'd like to know who Michael and Alina Powell have been communicating with in the last two years, as well as Nathan Leake.  Since the Powell adult children lived in Steven's house and Josh supposedly lived in the totally destroyed rental, Josh wouldn't need any utilities turned off at either of those two locations. So, giving Alina instructions to turn off the utilities means she'd have to know where.  Doesn't that make her an accessory after the fact, knowing Josh was violating the terms of custodial visits with respect to establishing a residence, independent of Steve?  Considering she was the recipient of his bank funds, he would have had to have known in advance her bank routing & transit # and account#. So, when did she give it or deposit tickets to him? Was the money deposited via teller, ATM, Night Depository, or Automatic Transfer?  I'm just not buying her whole story-waaay to many holes, inconsistencies, inexplicable answers to simple questions like Josh's address.  Why would a soon-to-be dead man need $7K?  The $7k, plus the utilities comment, almost sounds like someone being paid the final installment for keeping someone to me.  Just my opinions.

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I thought I read or heard recently that Josh was using the rental house (burned residence) as a front only for visitation, and that he was really living elsewhere.
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« Reply #381 on: February 11, 2012, 05:14:05 PM »

Klaas - could you/ would you make a Whack-A-Mole game,  with heads of Joran, Josh, Drew and a few others being beat by the hammer?  Or a version where Joran is the mole, and Mary Hamer is whacking him back into his hole?  Or maybe both?   Monkey Devil! Monkey Devil!


 
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« Reply #382 on: February 11, 2012, 05:17:44 PM »

Did Josh Powell replace the new quilt with the one investigators found in the storage locker?  Could it be that Josh overlooked the blood when he put it into storage?  Could it be that investigators will have a difficult time proving that any blood/DNA detected on the comforter was part of a crime scene even if it is determined to belong to Susan?

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Neighbor talks about conversation with Josh Powell

Earlier in the day Thursday, the Powells' neighbor talked to KSL News about a conversation he had with Josh Powell Wednesday night.

Tim Peterson said Josh asked him for a ride to pick up his van, which police had searched. He said Josh's behavior was odd and he didn't know what to make of it.

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"He'd only had like six hours of sleep in two days, and so he was just kind of in a haze. He just really wasn't himself," Peterson said. "Anytime we mentioned Susan, he didn't, he wouldn't respond. He wouldn't talk about her."

But Peterson said Josh did talk about having to buy new clothes and a new quilt. He said Josh also told him he last saw Susan just after midnight Monday, when he left with his two young boys to go camping  ...

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« Reply #383 on: February 11, 2012, 05:25:13 PM »

Ugh, when you put together the utilities and the $7k.....I read a book not long ago called "Room" where a man had kept a woman captive for years in a building and she had a child while there.  It was fictional, but brought to mind Jaycee Dugard.
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« Reply #384 on: February 11, 2012, 05:32:55 PM »

Reading at Blink On Crime this afternoon and the generator story Josh told is bothering Blink.  It's bothering me too.  Josh gave specific directions to shut off the utilities. Why do we use utilities? For heat, water, and light where we live. This is probably wishful thinking on my part, but I wouldn't put it past the Powells to have a live Susan stashed somewhere. Josh was very methodical in his planning.  People bent on committing suicide (much less a double murder-suicide) aren't worrying about utilities. The utilities are important to Josh for a reason and Sister Dearest knows where those utilities are located and how to shut them off.  Both Steve and Josh seem so vindictive, killing Susan seems almost too easy. The only other thing that comes to mind for utilities, is that the Powells have cartoon-caricature incest or real child porn (maybe involving the boys) somewhere in their possession.  I would not be surprised if Steve/Josh weren't producing it and it "stars" family members. I'd like to know who Michael and Alina Powell have been communicating with in the last two years, as well as Nathan Leake.  Since the Powell adult children lived in Steven's house and Josh supposedly lived in the totally destroyed rental, Josh wouldn't need any utilities turned off at either of those two locations. So, giving Alina instructions to turn off the utilities means she'd have to know where.  Doesn't that make her an accessory after the fact, knowing Josh was violating the terms of custodial visits with respect to establishing a residence, independent of Steve?  Considering she was the recipient of his bank funds, he would have had to have known in advance her bank routing & transit # and account#. So, when did she give it or deposit tickets to him? Was the money deposited via teller, ATM, Night Depository, or Automatic Transfer?  I'm just not buying her whole story-waaay to many holes, inconsistencies, inexplicable answers to simple questions like Josh's address.  Why would a soon-to-be dead man need $7K?  The $7k, plus the utilities comment, almost sounds like someone being paid the final installment for keeping someone to me.  Just my opinions.

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« Reply #385 on: February 11, 2012, 05:35:55 PM »

Reading at Blink On Crime this afternoon and the generator story Josh told is bothering Blink.  It's bothering me too.  Josh gave specific directions to shut off the utilities. Why do we use utilities? For heat, water, and light where we live. This is probably wishful thinking on my part, but I wouldn't put it past the Powells to have a live Susan stashed somewhere. Josh was very methodical in his planning.  People bent on committing suicide (much less a double murder-suicide) aren't worrying about utilities. The utilities are important to Josh for a reason and Sister Dearest knows where those utilities are located and how to shut them off.  Both Steve and Josh seem so vindictive, killing Susan seems almost too easy. The only other thing that comes to mind for utilities, is that the Powells have cartoon-caricature incest or real child porn (maybe involving the boys) somewhere in their possession.  I would not be surprised if Steve/Josh weren't producing it and it "stars" family members. I'd like to know who Michael and Alina Powell have been communicating with in the last two years, as well as Nathan Leake.  Since the Powell adult children lived in Steven's house and Josh supposedly lived in the totally destroyed rental, Josh wouldn't need any utilities turned off at either of those two locations. So, giving Alina instructions to turn off the utilities means she'd have to know where.  Doesn't that make her an accessory after the fact, knowing Josh was violating the terms of custodial visits with respect to establishing a residence, independent of Steve?  Considering she was the recipient of his bank funds, he would have had to have known in advance her bank routing & transit # and account#. So, when did she give it or deposit tickets to him? Was the money deposited via teller, ATM, Night Depository, or Automatic Transfer?  I'm just not buying her whole story-waaay to many holes, inconsistencies, inexplicable answers to simple questions like Josh's address.  Why would a soon-to-be dead man need $7K?  The $7k, plus the utilities comment, almost sounds like someone being paid the final installment for keeping someone to me.  Just my opinions.

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 http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/02/05/susan-powell-husband-josh-powell-murders-kids-commits-suicide-during-supervised-visitation/comment-page-10/#comments  Blink's comment on the generator is comment #35.

I thought I read or heard recently that Josh was using the rental house (burned residence) as a front only for visitation, and that he was really living elsewhere.

I heard that last night on Dateline as well.  The Police man from Seattle they had on said that the rental was only a front and was staged for the vistitation with the children to make it look like he lived there but in fact when he did not have the kids he was still living at Papa Steve's house.
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« Reply #386 on: February 11, 2012, 06:03:07 PM »


I thought I read or heard recently that Josh was using the rental house (burned residence) as a front only for visitation, and that he was really living elsewhere.

I heard that last night on Dateline as well.  The Police man from Seattle they had on said that the rental was only a front and was staged for the vistitation with the children to make it look like he lived there but in fact when he did not have the kids he was still living at Papa Steve's house.

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« Reply #387 on: February 11, 2012, 06:33:19 PM »

Might the bloody comforter have been used in a another crime?  What if Susan wasn't his only murder?   scratch
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« Reply #388 on: February 11, 2012, 06:38:33 PM »

Reading at Blink On Crime this afternoon and the generator story Josh told is bothering Blink.  It's bothering me too.  Josh gave specific directions to shut off the utilities. Why do we use utilities? For heat, water, and light where we live. This is probably wishful thinking on my part, but I wouldn't put it past the Powells to have a live Susan stashed somewhere. Josh was very methodical in his planning.  People bent on committing suicide (much less a double murder-suicide) aren't worrying about utilities. The utilities are important to Josh for a reason and Sister Dearest knows where those utilities are located and how to shut them off.  Both Steve and Josh seem so vindictive, killing Susan seems almost too easy. The only other thing that comes to mind for utilities, is that the Powells have cartoon-caricature incest or real child porn (maybe involving the boys) somewhere in their possession.  I would not be surprised if Steve/Josh weren't producing it and it "stars" family members. I'd like to know who Michael and Alina Powell have been communicating with in the last two years, as well as Nathan Leake.  Since the Powell adult children lived in Steven's house and Josh supposedly lived in the totally destroyed rental, Josh wouldn't need any utilities turned off at either of those two locations. So, giving Alina instructions to turn off the utilities means she'd have to know where.  Doesn't that make her an accessory after the fact, knowing Josh was violating the terms of custodial visits with respect to establishing a residence, independent of Steve?  Considering she was the recipient of his bank funds, he would have had to have known in advance her bank routing & transit # and account#. So, when did she give it or deposit tickets to him? Was the money deposited via teller, ATM, Night Depository, or Automatic Transfer?  I'm just not buying her whole story-waaay to many holes, inconsistencies, inexplicable answers to simple questions like Josh's address.  Why would a soon-to-be dead man need $7K?  The $7k, plus the utilities comment, almost sounds like someone being paid the final installment for keeping someone to me.  Just my opinions.

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According to Dateline ... Josh withdrew $7,000.00 but transferred "thousands" to who is thought to be Alina.  Could it be that Josh has a "deceased" Susan hidden in a another storage locker and ... shutting off utilities was his way of instructing his sister to keep paying the associated fees for that unit?

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« Reply #389 on: February 11, 2012, 06:39:58 PM »

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« Reply #390 on: February 11, 2012, 07:00:22 PM »

i posted this a pg or 2 back,and if you look at the pg,it looks like it
is going to shut down,i went to the pg the day josh killed the boys
and it was still working links to other pgs worked too,now there are
no links to the other pgs and the pg.or script for pg,is messed up
or maybe someone hacked it
i think the utilities,josh is talking about are the software utilities
that run the susanpowell.org site

it looks funny on the pg now,and no more links to the other pgs
http://susanpowell.org/Home
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« Reply #391 on: February 11, 2012, 07:09:34 PM »

Could the $7K and transfer of thousands be simply to avoid taxation and probate?

And the "cut off utilities" be that the utilities at Steve's house were in Josh's name?
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« Reply #392 on: February 11, 2012, 07:56:37 PM »

Reading at Blink On Crime this afternoon and the generator story Josh told is bothering Blink.  It's bothering me too.  Josh gave specific directions to shut off the utilities. Why do we use utilities? For heat, water, and light where we live. This is probably wishful thinking on my part, but I wouldn't put it past the Powells to have a live Susan stashed somewhere. Josh was very methodical in his planning.  People bent on committing suicide (much less a double murder-suicide) aren't worrying about utilities. The utilities are important to Josh for a reason and Sister Dearest knows where those utilities are located and how to shut them off.  Both Steve and Josh seem so vindictive, killing Susan seems almost too easy. The only other thing that comes to mind for utilities, is that the Powells have cartoon-caricature incest or real child porn (maybe involving the boys) somewhere in their possession.  I would not be surprised if Steve/Josh weren't producing it and it "stars" family members. I'd like to know who Michael and Alina Powell have been communicating with in the last two years, as well as Nathan Leake.  Since the Powell adult children lived in Steven's house and Josh supposedly lived in the totally destroyed rental, Josh wouldn't need any utilities turned off at either of those two locations. So, giving Alina instructions to turn off the utilities means she'd have to know where.  Doesn't that make her an accessory after the fact, knowing Josh was violating the terms of custodial visits with respect to establishing a residence, independent of Steve?  Considering she was the recipient of his bank funds, he would have had to have known in advance her bank routing & transit # and account#. So, when did she give it or deposit tickets to him? Was the money deposited via teller, ATM, Night Depository, or Automatic Transfer?  I'm just not buying her whole story-waaay to many holes, inconsistencies, inexplicable answers to simple questions like Josh's address.  Why would a soon-to-be dead man need $7K?  The $7k, plus the utilities comment, almost sounds like someone being paid the final installment for keeping someone to me.  Just my opinions.

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I thought I read or heard recently that Josh was using the rental house (burned residence) as a front only for visitation, and that he was really living elsewhere.

I heard that last night on Dateline as well.  The Police man from Seattle they had on said that the rental was only a front and was staged for the vistitation with the children to make it look like he lived there but in fact when he did not have the kids he was still living at Papa Steve's house.
But why spend all of that money to rent the house and not live in it.  With the 7k and the utilities weirdness, they need to thoroughly search wherever he has been living.  Where have his siblings (except Jennifer) been living, have they all been holed up at Steve's?  I hope they actually ran DNA after the explosion and didn't simply assume it was Josh.
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« Reply #393 on: February 11, 2012, 08:09:39 PM »

Maybe the utilities are for some other place no one knows about but his sister???? His sister got the money???
Guess we just have to wait to see what utilites were paid....
 
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« Reply #394 on: February 11, 2012, 08:24:38 PM »

Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Sgt. Ed Troyer said Josh Powell sent long emails to some people, including his cousin and pastor, with instructions such as where to find his money and how to shut off his utilities.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2097449/Josh-Powell-explosion-Husband-missing-woman-Susans-words-killing-sons-hatchet.html
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« Reply #395 on: February 11, 2012, 08:27:01 PM »


According to Dateline ... Josh withdrew $7,000.00 but transferred "thousands" to who is thought to be Alina.  Could it be that Josh has a "deceased" Susan hidden in a another storage locker and ... shutting off utilities was his way of instructing his sister to keep paying the associated fees for that unit?

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According to Jennifer Graves on Dateline ... Josh and Steve were thisclose.  Susan apparently had issues with the amount of time the two spent communicating.

Could it be that Steve was involved "at the very least" in the coverup?  Has all storage companies been investigated between Utah and Washington for a rental unit in Steve or Atina's name?

Somehow I believe that there were some expectations in regards to the funds suspected of being transferred to Atina.

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« Reply #396 on: February 11, 2012, 08:33:09 PM »

Powell also sent long emails detailing what to do with his money, house utilities, and other aspects of his life to cousins, his pastor, and friends just minutes before he ignited the explosion that killed himself and his children and left his house a charred ruin, Pierce County, Wash., Sheriff's Department Det. Ed Troyer said today.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/josh-powell-kill-sons-hatchet-fatal-explosion/story?id=15520394


Dispatcher: "Alina, I need you to calm down, okay? What else did the e-mails say?"

Sister: "Nothing. He just... He just... He sent several e-mails saying stuff about how to handle his properties and how to handle his utilities. I don't know. It was just an e-mail"

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/911-recording-released-from-Josh-Powells-worried/W9bZsNdV2E6AG7HpJxfE8Q.cspx

Alina tells the 911 operator propertie"S", which means there was more than one property.  The house in Utah was being rented out but Josh still owned it, Josh rented the house he blew up but was still supposedly living in Daddy's house.  What other properties?
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« Reply #397 on: February 11, 2012, 08:50:41 PM »

$7K => money to bury him?
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« Reply #398 on: February 11, 2012, 08:56:12 PM »

$7K => money to bury him?

Now how much does it take to put him in a F'g can and throw it away.

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« Reply #399 on: February 11, 2012, 09:00:27 PM »

$7K => money to bury him?

Now how much does it take to put him in a F'g can and throw it away.



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