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« Reply #480 on: February 15, 2012, 12:24:47 PM »

Steven Powell invokes right to remain silent in Susan Powell case

PUYALLUP, Washington— In a newly filed court document, Steven Powell re-invokes his right to remain silent and makes it apparent he will not be cooperating with authorities investigating his daughter-in-law's disappearance.

The document filed Tuesday in Piece County Superior Court is addressed to the FBI, Utah law enforcement and West Valley City police.

"The undersigned asserts his right to remain silent pursuant to Washington and Federal Law," the document states.

Steven Powell also reasserted that any contact by any law enforcement is to go through his attorney. Police in Washington state have sought to question him about the Feb. 5 murder-suicide involving his son, Josh Powell, and his grandkids, Charlie and Braden. West Valley City police have also wanted to question Steven Powell about anything he might know related to the 2009 disappearance of Susan Cox Powell.

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http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-steven-powell-cites-5th-amendment-not-help-to-police-20120215,0,528597.story
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« Reply #481 on: February 15, 2012, 12:26:34 PM »

Steven Powell won't cooperate with police Susan Powell investigation

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) -Josh Powell's father, Steven Powell has made a surprise move in court. He has filed paperwork in Washington stating that he will not speak or cooperate with police in any way.

He simply will not help in the investigation into Susan Powell’s disappearance.

The notice was filed at the Pierce County clerk's office in Washington on Sunday, just a week after his son, Josh Powell and his two grandchildren were found dead in the home explosion in Graham, Washington.

Powell is invoking his 5th Amendment right to not say a word to West Valley Police Department, according to the court documents.

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http://www.abc4.com/content/news/slc/story/Steven-Powell-wont-cooperate-with-police-Susan/1-Ja9GzBz0qjndee7T-6aw.cspx
OK.  I'm all for basic human rights, but this guy has behaved in a way that I think cancels those out.  Time to make him talk.  As someone mentioned days ago...bust his family jewels till he tells what he knows.  SP is as much a coward as JP.  He can dish out the abuse but he wouldn't be able to handle it himself.  It would only take a little pain and he'd be crying like a girl ready to spill all his dirty secrets.
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« Reply #482 on: February 15, 2012, 12:27:12 PM »

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On Sunday, volunteers combed through more than 10 tons of paper at a recycling center after detectives received a tip that Powell might have dumped papers there before the killings.

They found paperback books with his wife's name on them and a Utah map. An item described by detectives as a "testament" with Powell's name on it turned out to be a Mormon religious book, Troyer said.

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/14/josh-powell-papers-found-at-washington-recycling-site/
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« Reply #483 on: February 15, 2012, 12:36:58 PM »

Below is a clipping from a link provided by graceland -

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"Also gas cans," Wood said. "We believe he got the gas from the storage shed."
The two cans found at the house were like the cans in the shed, he said, and there is evidence Powell had researched the explosive properties of gasoline.
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Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/02/14/2026058/investigators-josh-powell-used.html?storylink=mrc#storylink=cpy

Then there was this provided by carpe -

Fred Meyers store - purchases gas can(s) and a pack of sterno. (Dateline NBC)

So were the gas cans purchased at Fred Meyers the same as in the shed or what?  The reason I question this is because where is the generator and also the sterno packs?  IMO Josh did not wait until the boys were there to douse the house he was ready when he pulled them inside and locked the door.

Also another reason I think they should positively identify the body of Josh Powell is because Steven Koecher is still missing and I know it seems a stretch but isn't it possible if Josh were faking his own death that the burned body in the house may be that of Koecher who disappeared the same week that Susan did?
Here is a link about Steven Koecher - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/koecher_steven.html
There is also another link about Steven Koecher and Susan here -
http://susanpowell.org/Susan-Powell-missing-person/Steven-Koecher-Susan-Powell-connection/Parallel-disappearances-Utah-Steven-Koecher-Susan-Powell

If you remember how Steven attacked Susan's character and then the above website, which some believe that Josh and his dad may have set up, seems to implicate Steven's disappearance with that of Susan.  Could it be that Josh Powell and Steven Powell hatched some diabolical plan before Susan ever went missing? 

 


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« Reply #484 on: February 15, 2012, 12:39:40 PM »

(A little OP)
I bought a bucket of emergency food in 2005, the expiration date was 2015. For 6 years I kept the unopened thing in the garage, wondering what was inside that would have a shelf life of 10 years. It didn't have much of a list of the contents on the outside, only that it served a family of four for one month.

The bucket was made of plastic, and was taking some space in the garage. I had bought it because of the hurricanes of 2004, which closed the stores for weeks, and the loss of power prevented stoves and fridges from working.

Anyway, last year I got tired of the bucket sitting in the corner gathering dust for years, so I decided to open it and finally find out what was inside. When I opened I got quite a surprise.

Half of the bucket was brandless ramen noodles, the other half was dry macarroni. There were a few little envelopes with salt and pepper, but that was it. I paid $85 dollars for the darned thing.

I could've gotten the same amount of macarroni and ramen noodles with $20, and they would've been brandname. Though, there was a paper inside the bucket that said that the bucket was buoyant, and could be used as a floating device in case of emergency.

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About the stuff in Josh's storage, maybe it was the LDS prepareness for doomsday thing. But, it could also be that he was preparing to run in case police figured out what happened to Susan. Having the stuff there 24/7 would be convenient for him.

Either way, he planned things. So, it is reasonable to think that he planned Susan's demise, too. Inviting the friend over and maybe drugging Susan so someone could witness Susan not feeling well, the ice skating trip with the boys, the "camping" in a blizzard, the new generator, etc...

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« Reply #485 on: February 15, 2012, 12:48:53 PM »

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Then there was this provided by carpe -

Fred Meyers store - purchases gas can(s) and a pack of sterno. (Dateline NBC)

So were the gas cans purchased at Fred Meyers the same as in the shed or what?  The reason I question this is because where is the generator and also the sterno packs?  IMO Josh did not wait until the boys were there to douse the house he was ready when he pulled them inside and locked the door.

Also another reason I think they should positively identify the body of Josh Powell is because Steven Koecher is still missing and I know it seems a stretch but isn't it possible if Josh were faking his own death that the burned body in the house may be that of Koecher who disappeared the same week that Susan did?
Here is a link about Steven Koecher - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/koecher_steven.html
There is also another link about Steven Koecher and Susan here -
http://susanpowell.org/Susan-Powell-missing-person/Steven-Koecher-Susan-Powell-connection/Parallel-disappearances-Utah-Steven-Koecher-Susan-Powell

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That's some intriguing thinking. Let's hope that the body is identified by DNA or dental records to prove it is Josh, and that he is not sitting in some Caribbean island sipping Margaritas. Steven Koecher was never proven to have been in contact with Susan, no emails, phone calls, witness who saw them together, nothing.

I do wonder if Koecher ever crossed the Powell's path.
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« Reply #486 on: February 15, 2012, 01:19:30 PM »

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Then there was this provided by carpe -

Fred Meyers store - purchases gas can(s) and a pack of sterno. (Dateline NBC)

So were the gas cans purchased at Fred Meyers the same as in the shed or what?  The reason I question this is because where is the generator and also the sterno packs?  IMO Josh did not wait until the boys were there to douse the house he was ready when he pulled them inside and locked the door.

Also another reason I think they should positively identify the body of Josh Powell is because Steven Koecher is still missing and I know it seems a stretch but isn't it possible if Josh were faking his own death that the burned body in the house may be that of Koecher who disappeared the same week that Susan did?
Here is a link about Steven Koecher - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/koecher_steven.html
There is also another link about Steven Koecher and Susan here -
http://susanpowell.org/Susan-Powell-missing-person/Steven-Koecher-Susan-Powell-connection/Parallel-disappearances-Utah-Steven-Koecher-Susan-Powell

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That's some intriguing thinking. Let's hope that the body is identified by DNA or dental records to prove it is Josh, and that he is not sitting in some Caribbean island sipping Margaritas. Steven Koecher was never proven to have been in contact with Susan, no emails, phone calls, witness who saw them together, nothing.

I do wonder if Koecher ever crossed the Powell's path.


I do believe he did cross paths with a Powell but I don't believe it was Susan Powell as has been suggested.  The authorities do know what they are dealing with and i can see contradictions in Josh's thought patterns.  For instance some of the articles have said that he seemed to be thoughtful in giving the toys away, making sure the utilities would be turned off and paid, but the elephant in the room is WTH would he burn down completely someone else's property when he could have committed homicide/suicide without the blazing fire.  To me the blazing fire means one thing and that was to destroy the DNA that could identify the bodies and allow him to make a getaway.  IMO he was too much of a coward to take his own life!  Think about it, they find 3 charred bodies in the house and automatically make the assumption it was Josh and his boys. Don't you think this is what he was counting on?  Why would he hatchet the boys if they were gonna die anyway unless it was two other boys he had to make sure were found instead of his boys?  I just want to know for sure that he and his father didn't commit a "perfect crime" KWIM!
 
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« Reply #487 on: February 15, 2012, 01:32:27 PM »

Something I noticed about the house he burned down was there was a road behind it.  Someone could have been waiting out back to pick him up and if the neighbors didn't know anyone lived there then he could probably leave out the back unnoticed.  The blazing house on fire would also have everyones attention directed away from him.  As methodical as he was I believe everything I've stated here could be possible IMO.  I have a pretty long house and I can Walk from front to back in less that one minute.  In the time it took for the worker to make a call he could have been out the back with the boys and throw the igniter in to blow it up.  In five minutes he could have been on his way away from the area. 

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« Reply #488 on: February 15, 2012, 01:33:35 PM »

I think the parallels of the Steven Koecher to Susan Powell came from Josh and his pappy
sitting around in their bathrobes and bonnets acting like a couple of Gossiping Gertrudes,
much like Aunt Bea & Miss Clara!

Steve & Joshie "brain-storming-farting" over coffee and tea cookies.

It makes me just want to go fetch his alphabetized b'day card collection and throw them up in the air!

I hope they land helter skelter and every which-a-way. Fine line between 'detail oriented' and 'whackadoodle'!
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« Reply #489 on: February 15, 2012, 01:38:22 PM »

I think the parallels of the Steven Koecher to Susan Powell came from Josh and his pappy
sitting around in their bathrobes and bonnets acting like a couple of Gossiping Gertrudes,
much like Aunt Bea & Miss Clara!

Steve & Joshie "brain-storming-farting" over coffee and tea cookies.

It makes me just want to go fetch his alphabetized b'day card collection and throw them up in the air!

I hope they land helter skelter and every which-a-way. Fine line between 'detail oriented' and 'whackadoodle'!


Where would we be without your humor? ROFL LOL

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« Reply #490 on: February 15, 2012, 01:47:26 PM »

I think the parallels of the Steven Koecher to Susan Powell came from Josh and his pappy
sitting around in their bathrobes and bonnets acting like a couple of Gossiping Gertrudes,
much like Aunt Bea & Miss Clara!

Steve & Joshie "brain-storming-farting" over coffee and tea cookies.

It makes me just want to go fetch his alphabetized b'day card collection and throw them up in the air!

I hope they land helter skelter and every which-a-way. Fine line between 'detail oriented' and 'whackadoodle'!


Insult Aunt Bee all you want, but leave Clara out of it!!!
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« Reply #491 on: February 15, 2012, 02:22:59 PM »

Josh Powell's Family Wants Burial Near Slain Boys


A lawyer for the parents of missing Utah woman Susan Powell says her husband's relatives are trying to have him buried at the same cemetery as the two sons he murdered.

Attorney Anne Bremner says the city manager of Puyallup informed her Wednesday that Josh Powell's relatives want him buried at the city-owned Woodbine Cemetery, where his boys were laid to rest last weekend.

Bremner says she will seek a temporary restraining order to block the burial, but the city manager told her that because it's a public cemetery, the city may have no choice.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/josh-powells-family-burial-slain-boys-15640919
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« Reply #492 on: February 15, 2012, 02:24:31 PM »

Steven Powell tells police he won't talk to them

Like his son, Steven Powell says he has no interest talking to police.

On Tuesday, Powell, currently in the Pierce County Jail awaiting trial on 14 counts of voyeurism and one count of possession of child pornography, filed a notice in Pierce County Superior Court invoking his right to remain silent.

In the one page notice addressed to seven different agencies from Utah and Washington — including West Valley police, the FBI, all of Utah law enforcement and the Pierce County Sheriff's Office — Powell said he "does not wish to discuss or make statements of any kind regarding any subject matter including, but not limited to, statements pertaining to any alleged or suspected criminal activity."

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865550183/Steven-Powell-tells-police-he-wont-talk-to-them.html
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« Reply #493 on: February 15, 2012, 02:55:39 PM »

Josh Powell's Family Wants Burial Near Slain Boys


A lawyer for the parents of missing Utah woman Susan Powell says her husband's relatives are trying to have him buried at the same cemetery as the two sons he murdered.

Attorney Anne Bremner says the city manager of Puyallup informed her Wednesday that Josh Powell's relatives want him buried at the city-owned Woodbine Cemetery, where his boys were laid to rest last weekend.

Bremner says she will seek a temporary restraining order to block the burial, but the city manager told her that because it's a public cemetery, the city may have no choice.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/josh-powells-family-burial-slain-boys-15640919

    

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The city manager in Puyallup (pyoo-AL'-up), Ralph Dannenberg, tells The Associated Press that Powell's relatives visited the public Woodbine Cemetery and selected a plot about 25 feet from the boys. They haven't paid for it yet, and Dannenberg says any sale will be put on hold because the parents of Powell's missing wife have threatened legal action.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/josh-powells-family-burial-slain-boys-15640919
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« Reply #494 on: February 15, 2012, 02:56:52 PM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/family-of-missing-utah-woman-hopes-to-block-josh-powell-from-being-buried-near-boys-he-killed/2012/02/15/gIQA2wP5FR_story.html
Family of missing Utah woman hopes to block Josh Powell from being buried near boys he killed
February 15, 2012

SEATTLE — Josh Powell’s surviving relatives want him buried at the same cemetery as the two sons he murdered.

The city manager in Puyallup (pyoo-AL’-up), Ralph Dannenberg, tells The Associated Press that Powell’s relatives visited the public Woodbine Cemetery and selected a plot about 25 feet from the boys. They haven’t paid for it yet, and Dannenberg says any sale will be put on hold because the parents of Powell’s missing wife have threatened legal action.
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The boys were laid to rest at Woodbine on Saturday. Attorney Anne Bremner says she will seek a temporary restraining order to block Josh Powell from being buried there.
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« Reply #495 on: February 15, 2012, 03:10:02 PM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/family-of-missing-utah-woman-hopes-to-block-josh-powell-from-being-buried-near-boys-he-killed/2012/02/15/gIQA2wP5FR_story.html
Family of missing Utah woman hopes to block Josh Powell from being buried near boys he killed
February 15, 2012

SEATTLE — Josh Powell’s surviving relatives want him buried at the same cemetery as the two sons he murdered.

The city manager in Puyallup (pyoo-AL’-up), Ralph Dannenberg, tells The Associated Press that Powell’s relatives visited the public Woodbine Cemetery and selected a plot about 25 feet from the boys. They haven’t paid for it yet, and Dannenberg says any sale will be put on hold because the parents of Powell’s missing wife have threatened legal action.
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The boys were laid to rest at Woodbine on Saturday. Attorney Anne Bremner says she will seek a temporary restraining order to block Josh Powell from being buried there.

Oh goody, NOT.   
Where ever @sswipe is buried, put a  stone hatchet for a grave marker with "son of evil" or " the devil himself" written on it.
Do they have any caves to bury it in?? 
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« Reply #496 on: February 15, 2012, 03:11:07 PM »

It is a big cemetery.  He doesn't have to be that close to the boys' graves even if there is no policy against his interment. Too bad I am not in charge of his burial. 

http://www.cityofpuyallup.org/services/cemetery/
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« Reply #497 on: February 15, 2012, 03:36:31 PM »

Steven Powell Declaration
http://www.scribd.com/doc/81720854/Steven-Powell-declaration
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« Reply #498 on: February 15, 2012, 03:56:49 PM »

Josh Powell's Family Wants Burial Near Slain Boys


A lawyer for the parents of missing Utah woman Susan Powell says her husband's relatives are trying to have him buried at the same cemetery as the two sons he murdered.

Attorney Anne Bremner says the city manager of Puyallup informed her Wednesday that Josh Powell's relatives want him buried at the city-owned Woodbine Cemetery, where his boys were laid to rest last weekend.

Bremner says she will seek a temporary restraining order to block the burial, but the city manager told her that because it's a public cemetery, the city may have no choice.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/josh-powells-family-burial-slain-boys-15640919
Oh, no.  NO NO NO NO NO.  Let the buzzards have him.  No wait.  They'd get sick.  Just throw his crispy carcass out in those mountains he likes so much.   
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« Reply #499 on: February 15, 2012, 03:59:31 PM »

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#CityofPuyallup says that unless a judge blocks #joshpowell burial, they will have no choice in allowing his burial near boys.
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