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« Reply #280 on: February 10, 2012, 04:55:10 PM »


Jmo, I wouldn't be surprised if the $7000.00 went up in flames at the house.
Might not of wanted anyone to have anything of his.   

I thought that, too.  I just can't imagine him giving a flip whether his utilities were paid or not.   

He paid the electric/gas right?  I thought that was said.
Maybe it was about to be turned off.
JMO..he wanted it on, so it would make a bigger boom.burn faster.
  


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I think this is what I was remembering:

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Alina Powell told the dispatcher, who recognized Josh Powell's name, that there had been "a lot of abuse" against her brother and that the "abuse is extremely difficult."

She said she received several emails, possibly some starting before Sunday, about how to pay for his property and utilities. She said they "started awhile ago" and she didn't think anything much of them.
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But $7,000 is a big utility bill even in Washington State. 
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« Reply #281 on: February 10, 2012, 04:56:08 PM »

Dr. Phil about to come on about the Powell story.   I am on CST.
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« Reply #282 on: February 10, 2012, 05:12:23 PM »


Jmo, I wouldn't be surprised if the $7000.00 went up in flames at the house.
Might not of wanted anyone to have anything of his.   

I thought that, too.  I just can't imagine him giving a flip whether his utilities were paid or not.   

He paid the electric/gas right?  I thought that was said.
Maybe it was about to be turned off.
JMO..he wanted it on, so it would make a bigger boom.burn faster.
  


Phar,

I think this is what I was remembering:

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Alina Powell told the dispatcher, who recognized Josh Powell's name, that there had been "a lot of abuse" against her brother and that the "abuse is extremely difficult."

She said she received several emails, possibly some starting before Sunday, about how to pay for his property and utilities. She said they "started awhile ago" and she didn't think anything much of them.
BBM

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=19146682

But $7,000 is a big utility bill even in Washington State. 

Thanks...mt brain is going in circles...
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« Reply #283 on: February 10, 2012, 05:16:34 PM »

One of those things that makes us go     and  
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57374907/powell-father-kept-dozens-of-pics-of-sons-wife/
Powell father kept dozens of pics of son's wife
February 10, 2012

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OLYMPIA, Wash. - In a folder on his work computer labeled "Personal Pics," Steve Powell maintained a peculiar collection of photos: 55 depicting his daughter-in-law Susan but few if any showing his son.


Thousands of images and emails on his Washington state government-issued laptop provide a small glimpse into his increasingly scrutinized world. Authorities said this week that he is a person of interest in her 2009 disappearance in Utah.

The files, obtained by The Associated Press as part of a public records request, portray Steve Powell as a meticulous worker who gathered photos by the thousands and had his life upended by the constant inquiries that ensued after Susan vanished.
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Until this week, authorities have only publicly discussed Steve Powell in relation to the charges he now faces. But a warrant and emails indicate that he has been dragged deeply into the Utah investigation surrounding his son, and police say they want to interview him to see if he knows anything about his daughter-in-law's disappearance.

"He may or may not have information that may be beneficial to us," said Sgt. Mike Powell in West Valley City, Utah, where Josh and Susan Powell lived at the time of her disappearance. Sgt. Powell is not related to the family.

According to the Salt Lake City Tribune, Powell claimed his daughter-in-law made sexual advances toward him, and made national television appearances where he professed his feelings for his daughter-in-law and his desire for sexual intimacy.

"Susan was very sexual with me," Steve Powell told ABC's Good Morning America. "We interacted in a lot of sexual ways because Susan enjoys doing that."

Susan Powell's friends and family have denied that she had any feelings of the sort or made advances towards Steve Powell.

In a search of Steve Powell's Washington state home last year, authorities found explicit images on his computers and images of people being photographed without their knowledge. Among them were pictures of Susan Powell.

Those findings led to the charges of voyeurism and child porn, to which he has pleaded not guilty. The state took custody of Josh Powell's boys and turned them over to Susan's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox.

Powell's work computer has a batch of photos of Susan Powell, though none appear to be sexual. They depict her and the kids opening Christmas presents and out during Halloween. A few show Susan Powell and the kids more formally dressed. It's not clear who the photographer is.
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Pierce County Prosecutor Mark Lindquist, who is overseeing the voyeurism prosecution, said it's his understanding from the images collected that Susan Powell is the subject of much of Steve Powell's photographic attention.

He said the many images of Susan Powell might be of some interest to Utah authorities, but he has seen no evidence connecting Steve Powell to what he calls Susan Powell's murder.

Emails show that Powell was actively working in the days around when Susan Powell disappeared on Dec. 6, 2009. He responded to emails the next morning, even drawing praise from a manager for pointing out an oversight related to holiday cards.
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« Reply #284 on: February 10, 2012, 05:18:43 PM »

Thanks for the search warrant screen grab, Klaas!

It says in it he used accelerant on the boys.

So, he tells Charlie he has a big surprise for him. Then hatchets the two boys.

Pours gas on them... and then lit whatever he had that ignited the house.

I pray I got my wish... that the boys didn't suffer long. Knocked out.

I could care less about Josh. Even if he roasted like a pig... I just do not care.

He was like something straight out of the movie 'The Shining'

I could spend the rest of my life thinking... and never come up with such an awful plan. It's not in me.
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« Reply #285 on: February 10, 2012, 05:26:51 PM »

P.S.   I really appreciated Josh's boss telling us what a good little programmer he was, though.

That was worth the breath and ink expended. (sarcasm)

That's like saying... but Hitler was a very good dancer. WHO CARES!?!?!
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« Reply #286 on: February 10, 2012, 05:44:01 PM »

it seems to just get worse,as time goes on

Police say images on Josh Powell's computer depicted incest
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Roach this week sent a public records request to the Department of Social and Health Services asking for the materials West Valley City police sent the agency before the fire. A social worker told dispatchers Charlie, 7, and Braden, 5, were a single step ahead of her on Sunday when they entered Powell’s home for a supervised visit and Powell locked her out.

 West Valley City police, who continue to investigate the disappearance of Susan Powell, last week confirmed they sent information related to the welfare of the Powell children to Washington authorities. A department spokesman declined to elaborate on what that information was, but on Thursday, Troyer told The Associated Press that the images collected by investigators in 2009 from Powell’s home computer in Utah were realistic computer-generated depictions of "incestuous" parent-child relations.

 Troyer said the images couldn’t be legally defined as pornography because they don’t involve real people.

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« Reply #287 on: February 10, 2012, 05:53:02 PM »

did susan find this stuff,and was going to get out with the boys
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Powell’s home computer in Utah were realistic computer-generated depictions of "incestuous" parent-child relations.
 Troyer said the images couldn’t be legally defined as pornography because they don’t involve real people.

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« Reply #288 on: February 10, 2012, 06:09:39 PM »

So everyone understands this:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9451.msg1303911#msg1303911
Please read the link below.  There are a number of websites that we are now blocking.  If you see a http:/** or a ** when you try and post a website then it has been blocked.  Please read the entire article at this link:

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« Reply #289 on: February 10, 2012, 06:17:02 PM »

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/02/10/national/a141736S22.DTL
Comforter in Powell unit tests positive for blood
By MANUEL VALDES and MIKE BAKER, Associated Press
February 10, 2012

Police in Washington state who searched a storage unit rented by Josh Powell found a stained comforter that tested positive for blood in initial exams, according to documents filed in court Friday.

Pierce County detectives reported finding a gray-blue comforter with a stain. The search warrant documents say the comforter tested positive for blood. Investigators planned to perform further tests.
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Pierce County Prosecutor Mark Lindquist said presumptive tests are conducted with a field kit and that a determination of blood won't be confirmed until the item is examined in the lab. "Field tests are not infallible," he said.

Lindquist said he expects the finding will be something law enforcement will share with colleagues in Utah who have been investigating Susan Powell's disappearance. The comforter was the only item police kept.
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« Reply #290 on: February 10, 2012, 06:18:20 PM »

So everyone understands this:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9451.msg1303911#msg1303911
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« Reply #291 on: February 10, 2012, 06:22:42 PM »

Let me refine my confusion:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700223934/Susan-Powells-father-interview-I-didnt-know-about-son-in-laws-porn.html
Susan Powell’s father interview: I didn’t know about son-in-law’s porn
Published: Friday, Feb. 10, 2012 11:24 a.m

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Speaking with Lester Holt just after TODAY aired a report on the pornography investigation, Cox said it was the first time he’d heard about it. At a court hearing last week, Powell was ordered to undergo a psychosexual evaluation, but the Cox family and its attorneys were not aware of the root cause.
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Weren't they aware of Josh & the boys living with his father, and what his father was charged with when he went to jail?

I believe they are referring to the incest animation that was found on Josh's PC from Utah that the Judge in Utah sealed until the court hearing on Weds when they sent the Judge the info which spured the psychosexual evaluation.

I'm still confused a bit over this.  Josh was living with his father when the porn was found on Josh's computer.  I'm aware that Josh's father had a company or state issued computer on which the porn that he is awaiting trial on was found, but did Josh's father have access to Josh's computer too?  Isn't that part of why Josh lost custody in 2011?  

Did Josh and his father have an incestuous relationship when Josh was younger?  If father was into child parent incest, it wouldn't be surprising for Josh to be suspect of furthering that into incest with his own sons.

What am I missing here?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57374907/powell-father-kept-dozens-of-pics-of-sons-wife/
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In a search of Steve Powell's Washington state home last year, authorities found explicit images on his computers and images of people being photographed without their knowledge. Among them were pictures of Susan Powell.

Those findings led to the charges of voyeurism and child porn, to which he has pleaded not guilty. The state took custody of Josh Powell's boys and turned them over to Susan's parents, Chuck and Judy Cox.
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 West Valley City police, who continue to investigate the disappearance of Susan Powell, last week confirmed they sent information related to the welfare of the Powell children to Washington authorities. A department spokesman declined to elaborate on what that information was, but on Thursday, Troyer told The Associated Press that the images collected by investigators in 2009 from Powell’s home computer in Utah were realistic computer-generated depictions of "incestuous" parent-child relations.
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In 2009 , computer generated depictions of "incestuous" parent-child relations were found on Josh's computer following investigation of disappearance of Susan.  Why were the boys allowed to remain in Josh's custody?

Then in 2011, Josh lost custody, when his father was found to have voyeuristic pictures of girls and women, and child pornography on his computer.  But Josh was allowed to have supervised visits in his home.

I understand now that, the Coxes were aware of the grandfathers computer images, but not of Josh's computer images.

Why weren't the children removed from Josh's custody following the finding on his own computer?  B/c they were computer generated cartoon-type images?

Something is very wrong here!  The court denies custody b/c of what is on the GF's computer, but not over what was on the Josh's computer! And the issue doesn't arise again, until Josh files to get full custody again?

IMO, the courts dropped the ball back in 2009!
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« Reply #292 on: February 10, 2012, 06:23:03 PM »

So everyone understands this:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9451.msg1303911#msg1303911
Please read the link below.  There are a number of websites that we are now blocking.  If you see a http:/** or a ** when you try and post a website then it has been blocked.  Please read the entire article at this link:

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« Reply #293 on: February 10, 2012, 06:23:33 PM »

sorry MB thanks for the notice
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« Reply #294 on: February 10, 2012, 06:26:21 PM »

Please edit the links in my post above as I used the overwritten link.  Thanks!

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« Reply #295 on: February 10, 2012, 06:26:47 PM »

sorry MB thanks for the notice

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« Reply #296 on: February 10, 2012, 06:34:02 PM »

josh has left a terrible legacy,ive been several places in the last few days and the
topic is josh and his horror story,people seem to find it incomprehensible,that
another human could do what he did,to anyone much less his children

boys and susan
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« Reply #297 on: February 10, 2012, 06:36:52 PM »

josh has left a terrible legacy,ive been several places in the last few days and the
topic is josh and his horror story,people seem to find it incomprehensible,that
another human could do what he did,to anyone much less his children

boys and susan
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« Reply #298 on: February 10, 2012, 06:51:22 PM »

Powell tragedy on Dateline tonight.
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« Reply #299 on: February 10, 2012, 06:54:06 PM »

http://**/sltrib/news/53463676-78/powell-mommy-ceci-cox.html.csp
What might the Powell boys have known about their mother’s disappearance?
By melinda Rogers
The Salt Lake Tribune
February 10, 2012

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