Lively Case Discussion #637 6/8 - 6/10/2007

[Tiger]

Great show Dana.I will only ask for answers after you return.

[Mere]

Good night monks....

What kind of boats? ...and who will be manning them?  If you can tell us...and if not, that's fine too.....

Good words Easy....thanks.

[Tiger]

nite to monkeys and other animals.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Night everyone..


 Hugs to Nemo and CP...

[klaasend]

Good night monks....

What kind of boats? ...and who will be manning them?  If you can tell us...and if not, that's fine too.....

Good words Easy....thanks.

Big boats, LOL    With lot's of equipment.  Red will be posting more information on that soon I hope.

Nite Tiger

[Sue]

Klaas
Dont know if you saw Atticus posted new legal documents on BFN
I dont know how to bring docs over

[Mere]

Good night monks....

What kind of boats? ...and who will be manning them?  If you can tell us...and if not, that's fine too.....

Good words Easy....thanks.

Big boats, LOL    With lot's of equipment.  Red will be posting more information on that soon I hope.

Nite Tiger

Okay....I googled big boats.....    When they get over 300 feet, they are huge....huge....!

[klaasend]

Klaas
Dont know if you saw Atticus posted new legal documents on BFN
I dont know how to bring docs over

It was already posted here in the LCD thread some pages back.  Also, the link to all of the files is posted in the Important Case Documents area.

[Observer]

Good night monks....

What kind of boats? ...and who will be manning them?  If you can tell us...and if not, that's fine too.....

Good words Easy....thanks.

Big boats, LOL    With lot's of equipment.  Red will be posting more information on that soon I hope.

Nite Tiger

Let's pray they bring Natalee home. Hopefully she isn't too far out as thats a huge ocean out there!!

[klaasend]

Klaas
Dont know if you saw Atticus posted new legal documents on BFN
I dont know how to bring docs over

It was already posted here in the LCD thread some pages back.  Also, the link to all of the files is posted in the Important Case Documents area.

http://homepage.mac.com/mcgraw.kalpoe.docs/Menu15.html

[SunFreak2]

I guess this means she'll miss the big party at her house tonight.

Poor littlle rich girl - I am soooooo sorry for her.  NOT!!!!!

Do the crime - pay the time, in my book.  Justice prevails if only temporarily.

I'm up here in the booneys near the Gottenbos.  HELP ME!

[klaasend]

I guess this means she'll miss the big party at her house tonight.

Poor littlle rich girl - I am soooooo sorry for her.  NOT!!!!!

Do the crime - pay the time, in my book.  Justice prevails if only temporarily.

I'm up here in the booneys near the Gottenbos.  HELP ME!

 

[crazybabyborg]

testing.............

[Tibrogargan]

I guess this means she'll miss the big party at her house tonight.

Poor littlle rich girl - I am soooooo sorry for her.  NOT!!!!!

Do the crime - pay the time, in my book.  Justice prevails if only temporarily.

I'm up here in the booneys near the Gottenbos.  HELP ME!

Hi Sunfreak.  We are all thrilled about your good news!
When do you find out something about your dear little Cherokee?

[SunFreak2]

I'm up here in the booneys near the Gottenbos.  HELP ME!

I'm here at INTENSITY'S (one of our new members) house.  Drive by those boys often. Ugly things they are.

INTENSITY would sign on, but she's getting ready to go on a long road trip to NYC.   Much to do! She says when she gets back she'll be on a lot then. Watch out for her political views.  She's quite opinionated.  We have some much heated debates on certain subjects.  Should be fun to see what others write!  

It is sure is good to see so many old faces.  I sure have missed those dear faces.

Good grief, it's now 6/9/07 - where did the 2 years go?

[crazybabyborg]

SunFreak! I hear GREAT news about you! I'm SOOOOO Happy for you!!!
AND so grateful to God!

[Tibrogargan]

Snip > Drive by those boys often. Ugly things they are < Snip

Sounds like they are no better in real life than they are in photographs.

[klaasend]

testing.............

Wow, cool CBB!

[Sue]

Klaas
Dont know if you saw Atticus posted new legal documents on BFN
I dont know how to bring docs over

It was already posted here in the LCD thread some pages back.  Also, the link to all of the files is posted in the Important Case Documents area.

http://homepage.mac.com/mcgraw.kalpoe.docs/Menu15.html

Sorry I missed it there I will keep quiet now

[sirensong]

Just came across this on the FP.  Does it make sense to anyone?  Or is this a troll that should be ignored?

Waterboy let me say it for you. My name is mud on the site anyway. It is very simplistic to determine what has happened once you have some background information and know who the players are. Unfortunately there are a lot of little stories revolving around Aruba and what is going on. Where to start where to start???
How can Jug; as a manager of a metal company, finance a ¼ interest in a land development company along with Greta’s husband and some Dutch and Germans investors on Aruba?
What is the real reason they got such a fast divorce?
Why is PVDS and Jan so disliked by the Arubans. What happened? Is it simply because they are Dutch? It is known that the Mansur family does not like them; especially that they are Dutch.
You have on Aruba: sex rings, porn rings, druggies, a night club that spikes drinks and a hotel with hidden cameras.
Why do you need a security force when you have 280 plus police? Why do they look like swat teams? Did the owner leave Holland as a policeman to be a spy on Aruba? Why all the so-called sophisticated equipment, and ATV’s and beach patrols at night? Is it crime control or spying? Why is Jan van der Straaten so disliked? Why did Oduber want him off the case? Why did the FBI not participate in the questioning? Dirty Hand is not Dutch, Dirty Hand is not Aruban. Dirty Hand is …..
When Michael Dompig and Geoffery van Cromvoirt worked for the VCB Team; why couldn’t the police work with them. What was so bad that it got them fired. Fired from his own father’s business and fired even though your father, Michael is the Police Commissioner? Why did Michael rat on Geoff? Why did Guido leave for Holland right after Natalee disappeared, even though his cousin was the Aruban spokesperson? Did Geoff go back to Holland also? Did his father? You have his sister who is Dutch on a majority of Aruban Police force. When you remove the impossible, what remains is usually the truth. Natalee was taken because of revenge. Why can’t they get their stories straight? They lie; but not to save their asses from prison; but to save their asses.
Natalee probably suffered from some form of A.D.D. or a compulsive disorder. She could tell which chap stick was missing; and an over obsession with the Wizard of Oz.
Because of this she could have been a chemical reaction ready to implode. She appeared naïve and innocent. But a young woman ready to explode. She apparently got a lot of attention from the pimps and did not know how to handle it. Also based on what her father said and her school mates, Natalee may have been a borderline alcoholic. Natalee was stalked from the time she arrived and changed rooms. By the way the key from the Hague did not arrive. That would have been Paulus’ certification as judge. Deepak protects Satish because he appears to be somewhat mentally challenged. Deepak drives Natalee and Joran from C and C’s to a side road lover’s lane by the Marriot. Here is where I believe they had sex with her. Deepak drives off and leaves Joran to take Natalee back to the Hotel. A white car has shadowed Deepak all night. The car appears and they try to grab Natalee and a scuffle breaks out. Joran gets a black eye and Natalee gets bruised when she is knocked down.
There are two factions working against one another. Those that think they are trying to solve the case and those that know that will never happen. As they throw Natalee into this other car, they bind her with duct tape and stick a piece of foam in her mouth. She is subdued with chloroform which may have reacted with her medication. The drugs that Dompig keeps talking about.
The white car drives off into the night towards the lighthouse. The Colorado lighthouse.
Who released the casino tapes and why? Posner says he did. But why? We have only seen the portion that shows Joran and the MBHS students together with Natalee. It is very convenient that the man to Natalees left looks like and could be Paulus. Ruth, Lee and Madison should be able to tell. Or have they?
Then there was the xxx rated video from the Netherlands web site entitled Natalee and Joran I and II. It shows a naked couple engaging in sex on the water and the beach. Was this an attempt to instill in our minds that, even though it is not true, Natalee would seem promiscuous? The video link has disappeared but the still frame captures live on. However I know the FBI had a copy to review.
Joran’s mouth will get him in trouble so now he lies to save his ass.
Who is Dirty Hand?
I believe Natalee was taken south though every one was looking north. She may have been taken to San Nicholas or an area called Weg Fontaine.
Why? She was taken and held captive because of what someone else did and held to be traded for something. But she was kidnapped by the criminal element. That was the revenge. Who may have kidnapped her? Geoff, Michael and Guido come to mind.
It was a chance happening that everything fell together for the criminal element. The trip Natalee took to Aruba sealed her fate the moment she got off the plane.
Natalee has been found. Natalee is dead. One of the three is confessing. Next day what are you talking about she is missing. Natalee may have been kept as long as June 9th or June 10th. During her captivity she was either killed or died from induced drugs to keep her sedated. If she is found dead; there are too many questions to be answered. It is like when a child asks for something and you say no. That is usually final. But if you say yes and bag of worms could be opened. Natalee is a missing person. Remember there is the industrial incinerator at the refinery. Someone has Natalee’s belongings so that if verification is needed why she was taken by ……. Oh by the way Dirty Hand is so many on Aruba, is encoded in this posting.

Comment by evilive | June 8, 2007, 11:07 pm