Lively Case Discussion #637 6/8 - 6/10/2007

[Lala'sMom]

Hi Cuz!  Yep, those were the good old days.  I remember panty raids well.

[Easywriter]

Has anyone seen any news about Paris Hilton today?  

[tcumom]

Has anyone seen any news about Paris Hilton today?  

don't even get me going       wouldn't it be cool if she just dropped off the radar    

[Observer]

Has anyone seen any news about Paris Hilton today?  

Yeh she refuses to eat or sleep..They are giving her psychoactive drugs and she is contiously crying and praying..She sure is making this hard on herself..It's not like she is general population like everyone else..

[Anna]

Has anyone seen any news about Paris Hilton today?  

Must be some kind of news blackout!  Oh, wait, I have on chick flicks!  That might explain why no Paris!

But I did hear last night that she stands to inherit between $30 and $50 million.

That's not counting any money from her modeling and perfume, etc.  Lotta dough so guess that is the fascination some have with her.

.

[truthseeker2]

Has anyone seen any news about Paris Hilton today?  

Ugh!!!  Easy, I almost made it a whole day without hearing about her.  Dude...come on!

j/k  hehe

[tcumom]

Update on PH:  Oh boohoo

Paris Hilton is "teetering on the brink."

Law enforcement sources have told TMZ that Hilton has been crying a lot, praying and extremely withdrawn.

Hilton is in the medical ward at Twin Towers, an L.A. County jail facility. She is in a room by herself with a glass door. For her protection, a sergeant guards the door at all times.

We're told Hilton hasn't eaten or slept since she arrived yesterday.

Sources have described her condition today as "fragile" and "despondent." One source called her "a train wreck" while another said she is "sullen and withdrawn."

We've learned her shrink, Dr. Charles Sophy, spent more than two hours with her this morning. Hilton's family can't visit today. In the medical ward, families can only visit on Sundays and Tuesdays.

We're told Hilton is receiving "appropriate medical attention." We're told she's being given psychotropic medication.

[Tamikosmom]

Seattle Times runs Carol Williams article..Makes me want to puke!!!

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003741183_aruba09.html

Aruba does not require an official spokesperson for the investigation to create smokescreens to distance the truth regarding the disappearance of an eighteen year old American citizen who went missing under suspicious circumstances on Aruban soil? The American press will oblige ... using an editor of an Aruban tourist publication with connections the the Aruban Law enforcement as it source.  What an utter betrayal to one of their own!!

Janet

[truthseeker2]

Klaas,

The timeline has always been a blur.  When looking at the computer records over at Important Case Documents I was wondering how Joran was logging into hotmail at 22.33 which is almost half an hour before PVDS says he picked Joran up at McD's?  Has this been asked and answered before?

Also, Valentijn's hotmail is accessed at 02:34 which is 14 minutes after Deepak says he and Satish got home.  Then Joran's hotmail is accessed at 04:30 which is 30 minurtes after PVDS said he "them up". (which now he denies saying)


Am I missing something here?

[Anna]

Klaas,

The timeline has always been a blur.  When looking at the computer records over at Important Case Documents I was wondering how Joran was logging into hotmail at 22.33 which is almost half an hour before PVDS says he picked Joran up at McD's?  Has this been asked and answered before?

Also, Valentijn's hotmail is accessed at 02:34 which is 14 minutes after Deepak says he and Satish got home.  Then Joran's hotmail is accessed at 04:30 which is 30 minurtes after PVDS said he "them up". (which now he denies saying)


Am I missing something here?

I'm not Klaas but I'd have to say yes.  Maybe a couple of other computers and some email accounts.  

[truthseeker2]

Klaas,

The timeline has always been a blur.  When looking at the computer records over at Important Case Documents I was wondering how Joran was logging into hotmail at 22.33 which is almost half an hour before PVDS says he picked Joran up at McD's?  Has this been asked and answered before?

Also, Valentijn's hotmail is accessed at 02:34 which is 14 minutes after Deepak says he and Satish got home.  Then Joran's hotmail is accessed at 04:30 which is 30 minurtes after PVDS said he "them up". (which now he denies saying)


Am I missing something here?

I'm not Klaas but I'd have to say yes.  Maybe a couple of other computers and some email accounts.  

That's not what I'm getting at.  Someone accessed Joran's email account from that computer while Joran was leaving the casino at the HI.  Not Joran.  I think that same someone accessed it again at 03.35.  An hour later Joran accessed it himself at 04.30.

[truthseeker2]

Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
You can’t remember answering a phone call at 2:00 in the morning? When the next day your son was picked up?
Posted Jun 23, 3:09 PM | Edit Comment | Delete Comment | Edit Post “Van der Sloot Parents Claim Their Son is Innocent” | View Post


Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The phone call to the father was made at 4:00 in the morning. No wonder he was late for school.
Posted Jun 24, 5:49 PM | Edit Comment | Delete Comment | Edit Post “UN CRISIS FUERA DI PROPORCION! /A Crisis Out of Proportion!” | View Post

Who really logged on at 02:34 and why?

Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The phone call made in the small hours.
Posted Jun 25, 6:57 PM | Edit Comment | Delete Comment | Edit Post “Natalee Holloway; Saturday June 25” | View Post

[klaasend]

Klaas,

The timeline has always been a blur.  When looking at the computer records over at Important Case Documents I was wondering how Joran was logging into hotmail at 22.33 which is almost half an hour before PVDS says he picked Joran up at McD's?  Has this been asked and answered before?

Also, Valentijn's hotmail is accessed at 02:34 which is 14 minutes after Deepak says he and Satish got home.  Then Joran's hotmail is accessed at 04:30 which is 30 minurtes after PVDS said he "them up". (which now he denies saying)


Am I missing something here?

I'm not Klaas but I'd have to say yes.  Maybe a couple of other computers and some email accounts.  

That's not what I'm getting at.  Someone accessed Joran's email account from that computer while Joran was leaving the casino at the HI.  Not Joran.  I think that same someone accessed it again at 03.35.  An hour later Joran accessed it himself at 04.30.

Not sure but I suspect Valentijn or someone else at the Sloot home was using JOran's ID.  Not to mention we have been told someone tried to mess with the clock/times so who really knows?

[SunFreak2]

Klaas,

The timeline has always been a blur.  When looking at the computer records over at Important Case Documents I was wondering how Joran was logging into hotmail at 22.33 which is almost half an hour before PVDS says he picked Joran up at McD's?  Has this been asked and answered before?

Also, Valentijn's hotmail is accessed at 02:34 which is 14 minutes after Deepak says he and Satish got home.  Then Joran's hotmail is accessed at 04:30 which is 30 minurtes after PVDS said he "them up". (which now he denies saying)


Am I missing something here?

I'm not Klaas but I'd have to say yes.  Maybe a couple of other computers and some email accounts.  

That's not what I'm getting at.  Someone accessed Joran's email account from that computer while Joran was leaving the casino at the HI.  Not Joran.  I think that same someone accessed it again at 03.35.  An hour later Joran accessed it himself at 04.30.

ALL good questions!  That is what makes this case so intriguing.  We don't know all the answers even though we pretty much know what happenened.  This is a very sad day for Aruba & for the HT families.  Aruba better get prepared for total economic failure!

[truthseeker2]

Klaas,

The timeline has always been a blur.  When looking at the computer records over at Important Case Documents I was wondering how Joran was logging into hotmail at 22.33 which is almost half an hour before PVDS says he picked Joran up at McD's?  Has this been asked and answered before?

Also, Valentijn's hotmail is accessed at 02:34 which is 14 minutes after Deepak says he and Satish got home.  Then Joran's hotmail is accessed at 04:30 which is 30 minurtes after PVDS said he "them up". (which now he denies saying)


Am I missing something here?

I'm not Klaas but I'd have to say yes.  Maybe a couple of other computers and some email accounts.  

That's not what I'm getting at.  Someone accessed Joran's email account from that computer while Joran was leaving the casino at the HI.  Not Joran.  I think that same someone accessed it again at 03.35.  An hour later Joran accessed it himself at 04.30.

Not sure but I suspect Valentijn or someone else at the Sloot home was using JOran's ID.  Not to mention we have been told someone tried to mess with the clock/times so who really knows?

If someone got a call at around 02:00 in the morning and tried to establish an alibi for Joran they may have messed up and signed in as the brother.  Well...you might want to tinker with the clock if the alibi got screwed up, maybe...???

Either way, that 22:33 doesn't fit whether they tinkered with the clock on the computer or not.  Doest it?

[SunFreak2]

This is a very sad day for Aruba & for the HT families.  Aruba better get prepared for total economic failure!

We need to ramp up the boycott and pressure.  They have only begun to feel the pinch.  We will never forget or give up!

[SunFreak2]

Klaas,

The timeline has always been a blur.  When looking at the computer records over at Important Case Documents I was wondering how Joran was logging into hotmail at 22.33 which is almost half an hour before PVDS says he picked Joran up at McD's?  Has this been asked and answered before?

Also, Valentijn's hotmail is accessed at 02:34 which is 14 minutes after Deepak says he and Satish got home.  Then Joran's hotmail is accessed at 04:30 which is 30 minurtes after PVDS said he "them up". (which now he denies saying)


Am I missing something here?

I'm not Klaas but I'd have to say yes.  Maybe a couple of other computers and some email accounts.  

That's not what I'm getting at.  Someone accessed Joran's email account from that computer while Joran was leaving the casino at the HI.  Not Joran.  I think that same someone accessed it again at 03.35.  An hour later Joran accessed it himself at 04.30.

Not sure but I suspect Valentijn or someone else at the Sloot home was using JOran's ID.  Not to mention we have been told someone tried to mess with the clock/times so who really knows?

If someone got a call at around 02:00 in the morning and tried to establish an alibi for Joran they may have messed up and signed in as the brother.  Well...you might want to tinker with the clock if the alibi got screwed up, maybe...???

Either way, that 22:33 doesn't fit whether they tinkered with the clock on the computer or not.  Doest it?[/quote]

That depends on which version of the truth Joran is tellling.  In one of his stories he says he is walking to McD's at 9:30ish making phone calls.  Can he access his email from his cell phone?

[oldfart]

Bringing this forward so more monkeys can know about it!

OFF TOPIC

I had my whole body pet scan and nothing lit up.  YIPPEE!  I'm a stage IIB confined to that one spot on my my right forearm near my elbow.  The next step is to to go bcak to surgery and clear the margins.  The ONC is looking into entering me in a vaccine trial for people at my stage.  I am ECSTATIC over this news.  

      ::::::doing the monkey happy dance::::::    
I only wish that Natalaee's family would get ecstatic news!  

Thanks Justinsmama
Ths is Great News
SunFreak2 I am so Happy for you...

[casa]

Bringing this forward so more monkeys can know about it!

OFF TOPIC

I had my whole body pet scan and nothing lit up.  YIPPEE!  I'm a stage IIB confined to that one spot on my my right forearm near my elbow.  The next step is to to go bcak to surgery and clear the margins.  The ONC is looking into entering me in a vaccine trial for people at my stage.  I am ECSTATIC over this news.  

      ::::::doing the monkey happy dance::::::    
I only wish that Natalaee's family would get ecstatic news!  

Thanks Justinsmama
Ths is Great News
SunFreak2 I am so Happy for you...

That is great news!  Thanks for letting us know!

[BTgirl]

Bringing this forward so more monkeys can know about it!

OFF TOPIC

I had my whole body pet scan and nothing lit up.  YIPPEE!  I'm a stage IIB confined to that one spot on my my right forearm near my elbow.  The next step is to to go bcak to surgery and clear the margins.  The ONC is looking into entering me in a vaccine trial for people at my stage.  I am ECSTATIC over this news.  

      ::::::doing the monkey happy dance::::::    
I only wish that Natalaee's family would get ecstatic news!  

Thanks Justinsmama
Ths is Great News
SunFreak2 I am so Happy for you...

Same here, Oldfart.