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justinsmama
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June 09, 2007, 03:55:15 PM »
Bringing this forward so more monkeys can know about it!
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
OFF TOPIC
I had my whole body pet scan and nothing lit up. YIPPEE! I'm a stage IIB confined to that one spot on my my right forearm near my elbow. The next step is to to go bcak to surgery and clear the margins. The ONC is looking into entering me in a vaccine trial for people at my stage. I am ECSTATIC over this news.
::::::doing the monkey happy dance::::::
I only wish that Natalaee's family would get ecstatic news!
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Quote from: "oldfart"
Buckeye
I was correct about something
What was it
?
Sorry... I have a headache the size of Dompigs belly today
and I never get headaches
You noticed that in the early statements they were asked about Fisherman Huts (when the story was supposed to be HI). You questioned whether Joran's witness statement mentioned that or why would they ask. I think the first statement did. I think Paulus knew from day one that Joran was alone with Natalee or at least he said he was.
Buckeye
Thanks ...someone else pointed that out 1st.. It just stuck in my mind.. being the ONLY statements we know about before they were detained.
Another that is suck in from Deepak's 6/13 statement ... where after ALE and Beth & company had left on the morning of 5/31/2005
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We then went to Joran's room because Joran's dad wanted to talk to us so we sat down on the floor, because Joran's mattresses were on the floor in his room.
Joran's father said to us, see boys what kind of problems this had caused. Then he asked us what we had learned from this. I answered, never offer someone a ride. Joran agreed with me. It was already about
06:10 hours
, and I said that it really is late and that I had to go home. I got up and walked to the door. Joran had also said that he had to go to school later. His father had also asked him what time he had to go to school.
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Joran was interviewed 1st. Why not Deepak? He was the driver/ did not have school & the oldest Adult in the car.
What time did Joran / Paulis say that Joran went to School on the 31st. (Tuesday morning)
How many of us that had been woke up by the police etc.. would ask our son & freinds what "we they had learned" vs "what the *^*&%* happened & is going on"
Point is I'm NOT sure Paulis knew what was going on until now..
Then it became his show. Just one reason for Joran to mention the beach in his story & the K's where caught going
What the ^*^% did Joran say.
JMO and head is still pounding so NAP time sounds good..
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damn tabbed browsing!! I posted on FP when I meant to post here. Klaas, delete it if you catch it please!
I simply stated that I went to FOB. There were ONLY 7-8 people total people that fawned over Joran 2 years ago -- now its the SAME 7-8 people!!
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damn tabbed browsing!! I posted on FP when I meant to post here. Klaas, delete it if you catch it please!
I simply stated that I went to FOB. There were ONLY 7-8 people total people that fawned over Joran 2 years ago -- now its the SAME 7-8 people!!
I think I'll leave it in the FP area. Thanks!
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Quote from: "wreck"
damn tabbed browsing!! I posted on FP when I meant to post here. Klaas, delete it if you catch it please!
I simply stated that I went to FOB. There were ONLY 7-8 people total people that fawned over Joran 2 years ago -- now its the SAME 7-8 people!!
I think I'll leave it in the FP area. Thanks!
No problem! I'm certainly not ashamed of it -- I just didn't think FP'ers would know what the heck I was talking about!!
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You missed one thing about Sociopaths,they try to imitate emotions of others.The beating on the chest is the bully,friendly on tv,and cold elsewhere.Notice he never Uses Natalee's name,unless forced,or in a posistion where needed
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the people that fawn over joran are his immediate family,by marridge,or birth
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Sue
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the people that fawn over joran are his immediate family,by marridge,or birth
people that fawn over Joran are not toating a full load including
his family
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June 09, 2007, 04:42:39 PM »
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
cbb ... according to the gardeners testimony in court ... the time when he observed Joran, Deepak and (?) sitting in Deepak's parked vehicle was between 2:30 AM and 3:00 AM on the morning of May 30, 2005.
Janet
Carlos Alberto Penata Ramos
August 15, 2005
<snipped>
I looked and saw that on my watch it was at 02:30. For 03.00 I was at my work. I’m not sure exactly how precise it is.
<snipped>
Going to take a nap now but I just want to say that this is the same area that
the bag in the drainage ditch
was found too. I can't even begin to explain how close it all is. Across the street are the fishermans huts. Which is why I so believe in what I still see in the bag.
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Sorry, but can someone help me find Grande's excell of the Deepak file?? I can't find it anywhere. TIA
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Quote from: "Buckeye"
Sorry, but can someone help me find Grande's excell of the Deepak file?? I can't find it anywhere. TIA
It's in the Important Case Document area up at the top in the Kalpoe vs Dr. Phil thread:
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/nhcase-statements.xls
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June 09, 2007, 04:59:44 PM »
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Bringing this forward so more monkeys can know about it!
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
OFF TOPIC
I had my whole body pet scan and nothing lit up. YIPPEE! I'm a stage IIB confined to that one spot on my my right forearm near my elbow. The next step is to to go bcak to surgery and clear the margins. The ONC is looking into entering me in a vaccine trial for people at my stage. I am ECSTATIC over this news.
::::::doing the monkey happy dance::::::
I only wish that Natalaee's family would get ecstatic news!
What great news, CONGRATULATIONS!
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Interresting part of the JENSEN show. I may need to see if Robert can clarify this for us. If this is what Joran said, it's a major slip up:
Jensen:
Well, you do know that Joran. You get there all the time. You know what it is…?
Joran:
Yes…. She’d had a few drinks if you ask me… Yes, but I’d had a few drinks myself so…
Jensen:
You were quite uh? (Makes drinking gesture.)
Joran:
No, no, no… I only had a few drinks. I got there… And only had two drinks…
Jensen:
You had two drinks? The whole evening just two drinks? You were not…
Joran:
Yes, we were there in that club… When we came there it already closed within
two hours
. So…
Jensen:
But before that… You hadn’t drank?
Joran:
No, before that I hadn’t drank. No…
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Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Sorry, but can someone help me find Grande's excell of the Deepak file?? I can't find it anywhere. TIA
It's in the Important Case Document area up at the top in the Kalpoe vs Dr. Phil thread:
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/nhcase-statements.xls
Thanks Klaas
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Quote from: "klaasend"
Interresting part of the JENSEN show. I may need to see if Robert can clarify this for us. If this is what Joran said, it's a major slip up:
Jensen:
Well, you do know that Joran. You get there all the time. You know what it is…?
Joran:
Yes…. She’d had a few drinks if you ask me… Yes, but I’d had a few drinks myself so…
Jensen:
You were quite uh? (Makes drinking gesture.)
Joran:
No, no, no… I only had a few drinks. I got there… And only had two drinks…
Jensen:
You had two drinks? The whole evening just two drinks? You were not…
Joran:
Yes, we were there in that club… When we came there it already closed within
two hours
. So…
Jensen:
But before that… You hadn’t drank?
Joran:
No, before that I hadn’t drank. No…
I'll say!
But if they put all the suspects in jail on contempt of court until they come up with a verifiable timeline, we would not have this problem of the elastic hours that stretch to accommodate the story du jour.
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Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Interresting part of the JENSEN show. I may need to see if Robert can clarify this for us. If this is what Joran said, it's a major slip up:
Jensen:
Well, you do know that Joran. You get there all the time. You know what it is…?
Joran:
Yes…. She’d had a few drinks if you ask me… Yes, but I’d had a few drinks myself so…
Jensen:
You were quite uh? (Makes drinking gesture.)
Joran:
No, no, no… I only had a few drinks. I got there… And only had two drinks…
Jensen:
You had two drinks? The whole evening just two drinks? You were not…
Joran:
Yes, we were there in that club… When we came there it already closed within
two hours
. So…
Jensen:
But before that… You hadn’t drank?
Joran:
No, before that I hadn’t drank. No…
I'll say!
But if they put all the suspects in jail on contempt of court until they come up with a verifiable timeline, we would not have this problem of the elastic hours that stretch to accommodate the story du jour.
Even Jensen seems to be questioning Joran here. Joran says he only had 2 drinks and Jensen is wondering why he only had 2 drinks in 2 hours.
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June 09, 2007, 05:34:27 PM »
Doesnt make sense to me. Joran was only at C&C for 30 minutes or so. What puzzles me is he says he was with Natalee for 3 hours. That is a hour more than the timeline he has given. 12:30-3:30/1:00-4AM
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June 09, 2007, 05:37:08 PM »
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Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
cbb ... according to the gardeners testimony in court ... the time when he observed Joran, Deepak and (?) sitting in Deepak's parked vehicle was between 2:30 AM and 3:00 AM on the morning of May 30, 2005.
Janet
Carlos Alberto Penata Ramos
August 15, 2005
<snipped>
I looked and saw that on my watch it was at 02:30. For 03.00 I was at my work. I’m not sure exactly how precise it is.
<snipped>
Going to take a nap now but I just want to say that this is the same area that
the bag in the drainage ditch
was found too. I can't even begin to explain how close it all is. Across the street are the fishermans huts. Which is why I so believe in what I still see in the bag.
I know Hot Shot I know
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June 09, 2007, 05:40:38 PM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
Interresting part of the JENSEN show. I may need to see if Robert can clarify this for us. If this is what Joran said, it's a major slip up:
Jensen:
Well, you do know that Joran. You get there all the time. You know what it is…?
Joran:
Yes…. She’d had a few drinks if you ask me… Yes, but I’d had a few drinks myself so…
Jensen:
You were quite uh? (Makes drinking gesture.)
Joran:
No, no, no… I only had a few drinks. I got there… And only had two drinks…
Jensen:
You had two drinks? The whole evening just two drinks? You were not…
Joran:
Yes, we were there in that club… When we came there it already closed within
two hours
. So…
Jensen:
But before that… You hadn’t drank?
Joran:
No, before that I hadn’t drank. No…
WTH? So #1 he is saying he got to Carlos n' Charlies earlier than 12:30. closer to 11:30?
#2 He forgets that he was drinking at the Excelsior as he previously stated.
More proof tha Joran lies so much he doesn't know WTF he has said in the past.
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