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« on: August 26, 2011, 09:16:58 AM »



ROBYN GARDNER
MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2011, 10:51:35 AM »

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/12/04/exclusive-interview-with-gary-giordano/
Exclusive Interview with Gary Giordano
by Geraldo At Large Posted in: Coming Up, Geraldo At Large, Geraldo Rivera   
Gary Giordano was arrested in Aruba for murder! Now, the sole suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner defends his story in an exclusive interview.

It’s a must-see Geraldo at Large — Tonight, 10p ET.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2011, 11:36:48 AM »

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 11:47:27 AM »

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2069820/Gary-Giordano-Cryptic-message-Gary-Giordano-sole-suspect-Robyn-Gardeners-Aruba-disappearance-hints-shes-dead.html

'I feel like I'll see her again': Cryptic message from Gary Giordano, as sole suspect in Robyn Gardener's Aruba disappearance hints that she's not dead
 
Robyn Gardener went missing in August while travelling on the Caribbean island
Prime suspect Gary Giordano arrived back in US this week after four months in an Aruban jail
Giordano told Good Morning America he misses Robyn, but feels like he'll see her again
U.S. businessman says Arubans in jail told him Venezuelan human traffickers operate in waters where Robyn went missing
Aruban police are investigating reports of a boat in the area, he said
Giordano could still be extradited back to Aruba as the case isn't over there

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The sole suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner has left television viewers with a cryptic message after saying that he feels like he'll see the beautiful blonde again.
In the second interview since Gary Giordano was released from an Aruba prison after four months the US businessman told Good Morning America that he does miss Robyn.

Giordano, who had met 35-year-old Gardner on a swingers' website a year before she went missing in August, told the show: 'I do miss her and I personally feel like you know I'll see her again- it seems.'

Prime suspect: Gary Giordano arrived back in US this week after four months in an Aruban jail
He added: 'That's how I feel in my mind. I just haven't come to grasps that she has gone.
'I was released from prison four days ago-I've been there four months. It's difficult, It's very difficult.'

Giordano faced a grilling as to how and whether Gardner could have been kidnapped.
On Wednesday, he had suggested Gardner may have been taken as part of a human trafficking crime.

But this morning he seemed at a loss as to how a possible kidnapping scenario would tally with his story.

 ::snipping2::


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2069820/Gary-Giordano-Cryptic-message-Gary-Giordano-sole-suspect-Robyn-Gardeners-Aruba-disappearance-hints-shes-dead.html#ixzz1faJkNI93
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2011, 12:12:46 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 01:41:14 PM »

Hello Monkeys,

It might just be me. I get the same vibes from this case as I do with the Hartly case.
Does anyone else think it's possible that this case might be bogus? As in a potentially planned missing person case for benefits to both the alleged perp and alleged victim and?

I'm just floating the thought for now.
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2011, 02:02:50 PM »

Hello Monkeys,

It might just be me. I get the same vibes from this case as I do with the Hartly case.
Does anyone else think it's possible that this case might be bogus? As in a potentially planned missing person case for benefits to both the alleged perp and alleged victim and?

I'm just floating the thought for now.
PML - Anything is possible for sure.  And picking Aruba would be a good place to go "missing."  But don't you think that they could have picked a better activity than snorkeling to pull it off?  Her friends said she would NEVER go snorkeling.  I know my friends would know something was hinkey if they said I went missing in the waters of Aruba.  I would never be there either.  (And not because of hair extensions - I just don't go in the water).

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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 02:50:47 PM »

Hello Monkeys,

It might just be me. I get the same vibes from this case as I do with the Hartly case.
Does anyone else think it's possible that this case might be bogus? As in a potentially planned missing person case for benefits to both the alleged perp and alleged victim and?

I'm just floating the thought for now.

Hi Patricia Mocha Latte   

Considering all I've learned about the key players in this case, it could be possible... or may have started out that way but ended differently.  JMO
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 03:20:07 PM »

Hello Monkeys,

It might just be me. I get the same vibes from this case as I do with the Hartly case.
Does anyone else think it's possible that this case might be bogus? As in a potentially planned missing person case for benefits to both the alleged perp and alleged victim and?

I'm just floating the thought for now.
PML - Anything is possible for sure.  And picking Aruba would be a good place to go "missing."  But don't you think that they could have picked a better activity than snorkeling to pull it off?  Her friends said she would NEVER go snorkeling.  I know my friends would know something was hinkey if they said I went missing in the waters of Aruba.  I would never be there either.  (And not because of hair extensions - I just don't go in the water).

JMO

In the "Dateline" segment, the place where they went snorkeling was an hour drive.

In between their hotel and Baby Beach there were many nice and calm beaches where they could've stopped to snorkel.

Giordano said he was at the hotel and a couple (man) suggested the spot.

Now, I hope police interviewed that couple...

...because the place was NOT nice (jagged rocks that "allegedly" cut Robyn's foot/surf unbearable) and it was NOT safe ("allegedly" drugs and human traffickers frequent the beach.)

So, who recommended the spot? Is that couple REALLY exist? IF the theory of human trafficking is really true, would that couple who suggested the spot be an accomplice?

Not that I believe it's true, just that the couple should be looked into, I think.



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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2011, 03:45:02 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_PpnH_ojFM

Uploaded by ABCNews on Dec 4, 2011
Suspect in Robyn Gardner disappearance tells his side of the story.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/e_PpnH_ojFM?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/e_PpnH_ojFM?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0</a>
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2011, 04:20:17 PM »

Hello Monkeys,

It might just be me. I get the same vibes from this case as I do with the Hartly case.
Does anyone else think it's possible that this case might be bogus? As in a potentially planned missing person case for benefits to both the alleged perp and alleged victim and?

I'm just floating the thought for now.
PML - Anything is possible for sure.  And picking Aruba would be a good place to go "missing."  But don't you think that they could have picked a better activity than snorkeling to pull it off?  Her friends said she would NEVER go snorkeling.  I know my friends would know something was hinkey if they said I went missing in the waters of Aruba.  I would never be there either.  (And not because of hair extensions - I just don't go in the water).

JMO

In the "Dateline" segment, the place where they went snorkeling was an hour drive.

In between their hotel and Baby Beach there were many nice and calm beaches where they could've stopped to snorkel.

Giordano said he was at the hotel and a couple (man) suggested the spot.

Now, I hope police interviewed that couple...

...because the place was NOT nice (jagged rocks that "allegedly" cut Robyn's foot/surf unbearable) and it was NOT safe ("allegedly" drugs and human traffickers frequent the beach.)

So, who recommended the spot? Is that couple REALLY exist? IF the theory of human trafficking is really true, would that couple who suggested the spot be an accomplice?

Not that I believe it's true, just that the couple should be looked into, I think.



I really doubt anyone suggested the spot they were at, maybe Baby Beach; but not that spot.

Gary Giordano is a practiced liar.  I really don't believe he's telling the truth now either.

Anywhere else along the way, they would have been seen.  If they went there two days in a row as was reported, he was scoping the place out.  He wanted seclusion, for whatever reason.  Maybe it was just for more pictures?  He wasn't looking for a good snorkeling spot, there's something else to it.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2011, 04:42:54 PM »

Hello Monkeys,

It might just be me. I get the same vibes from this case as I do with the Hartly case.
Does anyone else think it's possible that this case might be bogus? As in a potentially planned missing person case for benefits to both the alleged perp and alleged victim and?

I'm just floating the thought for now.
PML - Anything is possible for sure.  And picking Aruba would be a good place to go "missing."  But don't you think that they could have picked a better activity than snorkeling to pull it off?  Her friends said she would NEVER go snorkeling.  I know my friends would know something was hinkey if they said I went missing in the waters of Aruba.  I would never be there either.  (And not because of hair extensions - I just don't go in the water).

JMO

In the "Dateline" segment, the place where they went snorkeling was an hour drive.

In between their hotel and Baby Beach there were many nice and calm beaches where they could've stopped to snorkel.

Giordano said he was at the hotel and a couple (man) suggested the spot.

Now, I hope police interviewed that couple...

...because the place was NOT nice (jagged rocks that "allegedly" cut Robyn's foot/surf unbearable) and it was NOT safe ("allegedly" drugs and human traffickers frequent the beach.)

So, who recommended the spot? Is that couple REALLY exist? IF the theory of human trafficking is really true, would that couple who suggested the spot be an accomplice?

Not that I believe it's true, just that the couple should be looked into, I think.





Actually, Baby Beach used to be recommended (and maybe still is) as a nice snorkeling spot.  We, of course, have followed the drownings in Aruba and many are at Baby Beach.  I believe they were north of the actual Baby Beach "cove" area.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g147251-d147447-r26442895-Baby_Beach-San_Nicolas_Aruba.html
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2011, 04:44:02 PM »

Hello Monkeys,

It might just be me. I get the same vibes from this case as I do with the Hartly case.
Does anyone else think it's possible that this case might be bogus? As in a potentially planned missing person case for benefits to both the alleged perp and alleged victim and?

I'm just floating the thought for now.

That was the very first vibe that I got from this case.  Also, the family being so quiet about it makes me think that she may have somehow gotten a hold of them.  I keep thinking though that no one could do that to their family...but it has happened before.  Of course, I cannot get away from her being harmed either...I am just saying that this theory is the first that popped into my mind.
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2011, 03:48:31 AM »

I'm just now watching Geraldo's segment with Gary Giordano.

Last half of the show...

He and Baez again have Gary's three sons standing right behind them for this interview.   

Geraldo what was the nature of this relationship?  Was it as it appears a kind of internet facilitated sex romp in Aruba? 

Gary says he doesn't hide anything from his sons, he met Robyn on Adult Friend Finders, what he thinks is one of the largest websites on the planet, not this hidden subculture, it's huge. 

He said they had a friendship relationship, not paid for relationship, he says they were friends.  And the FBI and Interpol know that.  Gary says Robyn went out with different people, went to Vegas with friends, he said Robyn would text him and say "this guy is cute, I like him, blah blah blah and then two days later says oh the guys just a phony blah blah blah.  Gary said Robyn lived with a guy near her work, whatever was convenient for her, that's the life she created.  And he says he was part of that.  He adds that he knew a lot about her other friends.  Gary says he accepted the fact that she was that way.  He says she would tell him when her boyfriends beat her up and he would tell her to call 911.  He says she even spent two nights at his house, moved in to one of his rooms; and that his boys even met her.  But he says that didn't work out, he told her she was still running around at night and he couldn't have that with the kids.  He says that was their relationship, that he was really her protector and that's why this is so ironic.

Geraldo asks, why Aruba?

Gary says Robyn had just lost her job and told him she was going to take off the month of August (this was mid/late (not sure what he said) July).  He said he went on Expedia and looked for discount travel and Aruba came up.  He says he has 675,000 Marriott rewards points so the vacation was free.  He says he went on to tell Robyn she had to pay for her own airfare, because of how she was.  He said a lot of time she would wait till the last minute and decide to do something else.  He says he told her he was going anyway.

Geraldo says to Gary that so far he has described Robyn as flighty and promiscuous, Gary says he wouldn't say flighty but the latter is accurate.

Geraldo then asks so what happened?

Gary says they'd only been on the island for 48 hours when the incident occurred.  He says they'd gone to this location that people recommended, he says they had lunch, it was a pleasant situation, nobody was drunk and stumbling.  And then he says he asked her if she wanted to go jump in the water or just get out of there, and she told him sure let's go.
He says their intention was just to go out in the water maybe 15 yards, look at some fish.

Geraldo asks if they had flippers on.  Gary says no, he didn't have flippers for her but HE HAD HIS, and he had a snorkel and mask for both of them.  He says he still had his tennis shoes on and she was barefoot and they walked into the water. He says when they got out in about 10-15 foot of water that he decided they should go back so he pulled her leg and that's the last time he saw her.  He said his shoes were heavy by this time and were affecting his buoyancy and he was having a hard time getting back to shore.  He said he even thought about his kids at this time wondering if he was going to be able to get back.  He says his focus was on himself and he was thinking that she was behind him and was going to find her way.  When he got to shore, he didn't see her so what was he going to do.  He said since before they'd gone down there, there were people at the restaurant and scuba diving store so he ran there for help.  The store was closed.

Geraldo asks if he called out for help.

Gary says no he didn't because there was nobody within screaming distance.

Geraldo asks if he was screaming her name while he was still in the water.

Gary says no.  He turned around and there was nobody there.  He then says, did I yell for her?  No, I don't think so.

Geraldo asks if he didn't feel any more responsibility as he struggled to get out of the water for his partners sake, as he understands that's another issue that rubs people wrong.

Gary said at some point you're focusing on getting back, how can I help her when I need help?

Geraldo says something like maybe he would have sacrificed himself to help her, Gary says he had no idea she was having the same problem he was having.

Gary's oldest son then asks to say something.  He says that he's snorkeled with his dad multiple times and they didn't use flippers or anything.  He says when you're snorkeling you can't see anything but the ground because that's what you're looking at, you can't hear anybody because you're in the water.

Geraldo asks Gary's son if he ever suspected him of foul play in this thing, and his son says of course not.

Geraldo says to Gary, that he goes back to that critical moment in the water and he wants him to react differently, doesn't he wish he had.  Gary says he wishes he had those moments back.  Geraldo asks if he was a coward, and Gary says that never crossed his mind.  Geraldo asks if he was selfish, Gary says that never crossed his mind either.  Geraldo asks if he was too rigidly concerned with himself, what if it were one of his boys?  Gary says it's second nature, it's not like he sat there and thought about it, he said you go into reactive mode; self preservation mode.

Jose makes a comment about it being easy to play Monday morning quarterback.  Geraldo asks about regret, and Jose says it's obvious there's an enormous amount of regret.

Geraldo asks Gary to describe the moment he realized she wasn't there.  Gary says he never realized she was gone, he wears contacts and thought she might just be out of sight.  He says he never saw her struggle so he thought she was just out of sight and he decided to go get help.

Geraldo asks why he didn't just stay there and call out for help?  Gary says if you're in this room and no one's in here, no one's in the building, would you start screaming?  Gary says there was nobody there, there was nobody there to scream for.  He says he ran as fast as he could, and that he found someone within moments.

Richard Forester joined them from Washington D. C.

Geraldo asks Richard what he thinks so far, what he thinks of Gary's description of what happened.

Richard says honestly he's disgusted, that there's so many things there that he could say things about.  He says Gary is a selfish coward, and he's disgusted.

Geraldo asks Richard if he's the boyfriend Robyn called 911 about alleging domestic violence?

Richard (defiantly) says no I'm the boyfriend that called 911 on somebody else actually.

Geraldo says did you call 911 on her?

Richard says no, before she and I were living together.

Geraldo says oh o.k. another story then.  Richard says yes.

(What was that about???????????  Me thinks there's more history here between Richard and Gary that we don't know about!)

Geraldo asks what part of Gary's story rubs him the wrong way.

Richard says Robyn wouldn't have gone snorkeling.  She was fine in a pool, but she was scared of the ocean.  She would have never gone out over her knees, or her waist deep; that's it.

Geraldo asks if he just doesn't buy the whole story, and Richard says no, not at all.

Richard brings up the hair extensions again that are held in by glue that the salt water would eat right through.  He says Robyn is very particular about her hair and her makeup.  And at that time of day with her hair done and makeup on she wouldn't have gone snorkeling.

Geraldo says he's going to have Jose Baez, who has been monitoring Richard live (Richard says good, good...over Geraldo talking) to give explanations about the points Richard has raised.

Gerald asks Baez if it wasn't a fact that his client had a motive to murder, Baez says absolutely not.  Baez says what people don't realize is that Gary is a successful businessman, and unfortunately his father is very ill and his mother is of age and Gary stands to inherit a significant amount of money.  Baez says he also has excellent credit, and if you look at Gary's financial situation the 1.5 million dollar life insurance as a motive doesn't make sense at all.  Baez says they were prepared to demonstrate that in an Arubian court, that they had put together a forensic accounting package that would have shown clearly that 1.5 million is not as strong a motive as the authorities originally believed it was.  Gary says he wants to build on that.  He started his staffing firm in 2005, that year had revenues close to 3 million.  He built a new house for 1.2 million and the following year bought another house for 1.8 million.  Gary says he had two houses, he had money and although 1.5 million is a lot of money, he has no debt, he's not a gambler, it's not there.

Geraldo asks if he's ever taken out insurance on a traveling companion before?  Gary says yes he has, and she's testified to the grand jury in Maryland; and said not only did she sign it and agree to it, but she's traveled with him again since.  They were due to go on another cruise while he was in jail in Aruba.

Geraldo asks if Robyn knew that he was the beneficiary on the policy.  Gary says she not only knew it, but she signed it.

Geraldo says he can't recall ever taking out insurance on a traveling companion and caring about it so much that he took it to another location for the person to sign it, he wants to know why it was so important.  Gary says she didn't live with him, and he wasn't planning on seeing her until the travel day.  She was going to be in Annapolis and was going to take a cab to the airport and meet him there. 

Geraldo says but this is exceptionally prudent is it not?  Gary says not it isn't.  He says her relationship with her family is not good.  He said he told her about the insurance and that the default is that it would go to the following people..and she didn't want that to happen.  Jose buts in and says there was a lot of suspicion about this fraud issue.  He said they went to the location where the document was signed and found that there was a video, they notified the U. S. authorities about the video and they confiscated it and it resolved this whole issue altogether.

Geraldo goes further to state that he understands that Robyn signed the document but he still thinks it's odd for someone to take such an interest in insuring their travel companion.  With as much as he's traveled, he can't remember ever doing it.

Gary asks if there's a statute for that, if it's against the law?  Gary (defiantly) goes on to say that most of the viewing audience probably doesn't even have insurance, health insurance, now that's unusual.

Geraldo asks Gary if he can understand why people found this unusual and why it set the tone the way it's been?  And Gary says yes, and that's why he's there.

Geraldo goes back to Richard Forester to comment about the insurance.

Richard wants to back up first to the snorkeling.  He goes on to criticize Gary's wearing the shoes...if he's an accomplished snorkeler or scuba diver (AS HE HIMSELF IS  ) why would you wear shoes.

Geraldo says his understanding was that Gary kept his tennis shoes on because they weren't actually planning on swimming out, they were just going to walk out and feed the fish.  Richard asks what they were going to feed the fish?  Geraldo says where they were in Aruba the fish come right to you.

Richard says if he would have had his shoes on when he was running to get help there would have been prints and sand everywhere.  Richard says Gary told Robyn's mother he put his shoes on when he got out of the water.  So he's lying.

Geraldo says so what about the insurance.  Richard says if she signed the insurance she had no idea that there was an accidental death clause to it, that she probably thought it was just trip cancellation insurance or in case they lost their luggage.  He doesn't think Gary told her what it was, and she wasn't savvy enough when it comes to things like that to know.

Gerald asks Gary if he won't carry the burden, the stigma, the 1.5 million, even if he didn't kill her he didn't do enough to save her?  Gary says forever.  Geraldo says and... Gary says he doesn't know what's going to happen next.  He just knows that he's doing the right thing by coming forward and speaking, he's been muted for four months and he's at his disposal to answer any questions.  Geraldo asks if he'll seek out the 1.5 million benefits on Robyn, Gary said he doesn't know.  Baez says he's spoken to Gary many times, and the collection of that money is the farthest thing from his mind right now.  Geraldo asks what about the prospect that this isn't over?  Baez says that he thinks they've exhausted all of their resources and that what he's seen from the investigation is that they don't have any evidence of a crime because one wasn't committed.  Geraldo asks Gary, as he speaks to his sons does he tell them their dad is not a murderer?  Gary says he did when he first contacted them from jail, but that they're back to normal.  They never believed it, and he never believed it.  There's no convincing of his sons, there's no need.  Oldest son speaks up and says his dad didn't have to say anything, he knew he didn't commit this crime.

Richard Forester listening with Jose Baez on the phone.

Geraldo says to Baez, you've heard what Richard has said; Robyn never would have gone in the water at 5pm, hair done ready to go out, she never would have gone snorkeling.

Baez says he thinks Mr. Forester is getting dangerously close to a defamation lawsuit, and if he knows what's best for him he should get counsel and stop this nonsense.  Baez says number one why don't you ask him about what happened the night before she left for Aruba he's so educated in predicting her actions.  Did he know she was going to leave him that night and go spend it with another man?  Baez says he doesn't think so.  Did he know she was going to Aruba?  Geraldo asks Baez to keep the focus on Gary right now.  Baez says it's frustrating to sit there and listen to someone that doesn't know Gary sit there and insult him and doesn't know anything about the case...something about defame him and dangerously close.  (Richard is saying something but his mic is not on...then it comes on and he says he's innocent right?)  Baez says he'd love to hear Richard's version of events the night before she left for Aruba.

Geraldo asks Richard what he'd like to say to Jose?  Richard wants to know what the night before she left for Aruba has to do with her disappearing.  (Jose is saying something on the phone but I can't understand what he's saying)  Richard says to Baez where's Robyn and if Gary's innocent why does he have to be by his side all the time, can't he speak for himself.  Richard also asks why Gary would bring his children out there and include his children in something as horrible as this.  Baez says as he said, this should be Mr. Forester's last interview.  If not, he feels sure Gary would be happy to release the FBI report about all of Mr. Forester's background with Robyn.  Richard wants to know what his background has to do with her disappearing with him.  (Lot of talking over each other here) Geraldo asks if Baez thinks she's still alive and he says no, he believes she is presumed dead; and he thinks she's dead unfortunately.


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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2011, 09:22:51 AM »

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=46&sid=2657078

Robyn Gardner case brings up memories of Natalee Holloway


Monday - 12/5/2011, 4:20am  ET

Kathy Stewart, wtop.com

WASHINGTON - A Montgomery County man is free but he may never live down a vacation that apparently went terribly wrong.

Gary Giordano of Gaithersburg was set free Tuesday after being held four months in Aruba in August following the disappearance of Robyn Gardner, 35, of Frederick.

"Now the mystery continues, but again the analogy continues with Natalee Holloway," says former FBI profiler Clint Van Zandt.

In 2005 Natalee Holloway disappeared in Aruba. Gardner vanished in August while on vacation with Giordano in Aruba.

Van Zandt says investigators in the Holloway case searched nearby islands in the off chance that she had been kidnapped as part of a human trafficking incident.

Now, in the Gardner case, both the victim's boyfriend and Giordano have talked about Gardner being a possible victim of human trafficking.

But Van Zandt dismisses that theory.

"The chances of either Natalee or Robyn Gardner being victim of human trafficking as opposed to some other terrible incident is probably pretty slim at this point," he says.  ::snipping2::
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texasmom,thanks for that post about the interview.   
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2011, 10:27:39 AM »

So, I have a question after reading that long annoying interview by Geraldo.  Gary states that he didn't have his contacts in and so he assumed that she was just out of sight.  Then how did he know that no one was on the beach?  He didn't hollar for help because he knew that there was no one around.  He could see further away up on the beach but he
couldn't see whether or not Robyn was in the water with him?  He is throwing in excuses in my opinion.  Anything that he can attach to when needed.

Also, how did he accumulate that many Marriott points? 
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So, I have a question after reading that long annoying interview by Geraldo.  Gary states that he didn't have his contacts in and so he assumed that she was just out of sight.  Then how did he know that no one was on the beach?  He didn't hollar for help because he knew that there was no one around.  He could see further away up on the beach but he
couldn't see whether or not Robyn was in the water with him?  He is throwing in excuses in my opinion.  Anything that he can attach to when needed.

Also, how did he accumulate that many Marriott points? 

Also, I cannot stand Jose Baez.  I cannot stand him.  I wish somehow we could turn the television population away from watching these kind of interviews, so that these idiots could quit profiting off crime.  I'm guilty of it too.   Thanks texasmom for posting the interview.
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2011, 11:47:59 AM »

OMGsh, Texasmom... excellent recap of the Geraldo interview!!

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Baez says what people don't realize is that Gary is a successful businessman, and unfortunately his father is very ill and his mother is of age and Gary stands to inherit a significant amount of money.  Baez says he also has excellent credit, and if you look at Gary's financial situation the 1.5 million dollar life insurance as a motive doesn't make sense at all.  Baez says they were prepared to demonstrate that in an Arubian court, that they had put together a forensic accounting package that would have shown clearly that 1.5 million is not as strong a motive as the authorities originally believed it was.  Gary says he wants to build on that.  He started his staffing firm in 2005, that year had revenues close to 3 million.  He built a new house for 1.2 million and the following year bought another house for 1.8 million.  Gary says he had two houses, he had money and although 1.5 million is a lot of money, he has no debt, he's not a gambler, it's not there.

There was an article here discussing Gary's financial problems. That included Gary having gone to court to reduce the child support. It discussed him trying to steal money from another company by faking a contract which was later found to have been forged by Gary and then suing that company for $11.5 million dollars.

At one point in the interview it is said that he used his free miles to pay for the Aruba vacation, and asked Robyn to pay for her own airfare. Does that speak of a man who is swimming in money?

Drinking out of liquor in his car (if it wasn't drugged booze) is another sign that he isn't that well off.

IMO.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/23/suspect-in-aruba-claimed-money-woes/?page=all
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