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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #861 10/16/11 -
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A Long History
Summons and Complaint
Elizabeth Ann Twitty and Dave Edward Holloway
vs. Joran van der Sloot and Paulus van der Sloot
12. On at least three occasions prior to May 2005, young Aruban women alleged that they were victims of “date rape” perpetrated by Joran and his accomplices.
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/hway/hwayvds21606cmp5.html
Summons and Complaint
Elizabeth Ann Twitty and Dave Edward Holloway
vs. Joran van der Sloot and Paulus van der Sloot
81. Defendant Paulus van der Sloot knew his minor child, Joran van der Sloot, had a long history of sexual assaults on young women.
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/hway/hwayvds21606cmp15.html
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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A Group Called "The Pimps"
'Scarborough Country' for August 26
updated 8/29/2005 3:49:28 PM ET
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DANIELS: It definitely smells that way. You know, if you take the prosecution‘s statement at its face, we are talking on a whole new level, the charges here. We are talking about drugs. We are talking about rape and we are talking about rape of many different people. There are four guys now in custody, four best friends. What does that tell you?
MANSUR: Well, what it tells me is that, really, these four guys are friends. They belong to the same group, these party boys that go out and prey on young, unsuspected girls or other kinds of girls also that are out to have a good time, not suspecting what they‘re in for with these predators around.
And they are—they not only appear in photographs together, but I understand that Freddy lives very near to the Joran house. So, there is a bond between them.
There is a group that they call themselves the pimps, in which all of these participate
.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9119491/ns/msnbc_tv-morning_joe/t/scarborough-country-august/
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Assaulted Under the Influence of Drugs
'The Abrams Report' for February 24
updated 2/27/2006 10:45:52 AM ET
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BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: There were two—I know of two young girls. One was 16 and one was 14 years of age, and it was difficult for these girls to do, but they did come forward. They had to hire an attorney. They gave statements to the police. You know, these were real girls that were coming forward. We don't know what happened or what transpired, why that never went any further than it did. We don't know if it had something to do with—I was told that Dennis Jacobs (ph) had strongly—had talked to the girls and was really putting the pressure on them to retract this, so you know, we just don't know how far that some individuals in that police department were going to go to put a stop to those girls coming forward.
But they were real girls and they had been assaulted by Joran under the influence of drugs.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11590518/
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statment - June 10, 2005
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To your question as to what role Joran plays in our circle of friends, I can state the following. He has no real role. We are all the same.
To your question as to where we take the girls we pick up, I can state the following. Sometimes the girls stay at "Carlos & Charlies" or sometimes we take them to their hotel.
To your question was to what exactly happens when we have picked up the girls, I can state the following. Just kissing and dancing.
To your question whether sexual intercourse has happened, I can state the following. Yes, it has happened.
To your question whether it ever happened that all of us, so in one room, had sexual intercourse, I can state the following. It has happened.
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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=215.0
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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Quote from: texasmom on September 15, 2011, 02:31:43 AM
http://www.24ora.com/politica-mainmenu-18/36856-gobierno-y-parlamento-mester-dicidi-cual-ta-e-proximo-paso-den-exploracion-di-mineralnan.html
Papiamentu translation:
gobierno y parliament have to dicidi cual is the proximo pace in exploracion of mineralnan
wednesday, 14 september 2011 17:53
plannan cu is trahando on dje for casi two year end door minister of finanza y asuntonan of utilidad ing. mike de meza on asunto of exploracion of gas, is show of is bayendo on the good caminda. in cuadro of this y basa on all the work cu owing to wordo haci till at the momentonan here, had
one presentacion yesterday in parliament of aruba. minister de meza owing to splica cu for of instant cu gabinete mike eman owing to sit, owing to word of will sondea the posibilidad of oil or gas in awanan territorial of aruba.
more still if see cu some time first owing to stay descubri one reserva big of gas natural in territory venezolano, cu is stay very close of esun of aruba.
at the instant ey the interest for explora gas at aruba owing to become more big. was basa on descubrimento of the reserva of gas natural upstairs menciona, cu aruba owing to wordo acerca door of
three compania grandi: heritage of inglatera, repsol of spain y northern petroleum of merca
. the interest was for exploracion of petroli or gas natural. gobierno owing to sit at table the time ey cu cap his director, armando curet, for see con is follow cu the proceso ey. owing to form one comision of expertonan local, of companianan of utilidad y cap, asisti for one consehero of inglatera y expertonan dutch, for study all the informacion cu have on table y talk cu the companianan interesa. after of enough meeting y discucion, the comision owing to arrive at one conseho cu owing to wordo present at gobierno of aruba.
minister of meza owing to splica cu owing to listen this,
y for is very transparente cu one asunto so important, owing to dicidi for let esnan cu was envolvi in the procedura, give one presentacion at parliament of aruba. cap owing to give his presentacion at parliament, cu asistencia of expertonan european, of the compania fugro development and production.
also departamento economico of the netherlands have one experto in otorgamento of permission y estudionan cu was present, y owing to give the parlamentarionan one splicacion of con one procedura so have to bay, in caso cu have to arrive at thing is one “licitacion”. in parliament, caminda also was present first minister of aruba mr. mike eman y expertonan of gabinete mike eman, owing to wordo show of the opcionnan cu have on table y the various opcionnan cu have for follow cune. the mandatario owing to splica cu if the material or mineral can wordo achieve in water of aruba, the is of the island. in pasado had acuerdonan company, cu if aruba achieve mineral, 80% is of aruba y 20% for her another islands of antias. but the situation awendia is completamente various. the is believe cu the reparticion is stay same, but the 20% is wordo part in one form more big cu the another islands. one reserva so, provided that principio is of country aruba.
http://issuu.com/themorningnews/docs/september_16__2011
September 16, 2011 The Morning News
Pages 3 and 5
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #861 10/16/11 -
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Read that last article closely monkeys...imo it's ALL right there in black and white.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Justice for Natalee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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email
from Jossy
(to Easywriter
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We also recently obtained the original video recording that Jamie Skeeters made
(not the one shown on Dr. Phil!), and in it Deepak compromises himself seriously.
We will continue to publish the documents that we have tomorrow and everyday thereafter, until one of them breaks down or starts to counterattack.
fight4truth.forumup.us/viewtopic.php?t=85&mforum=fight4truth
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Quote from: texasmom on October 31, 2011, 02:06:38 AM
Read that last article closely monkeys...imo it's ALL right there in black and white.
Thanks, TM. Just sickening........Sweet Natalee never had a chance.
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With pictures
http://www.news10.net/news/local/article/161023/428/Other-unresolved-missing-person-cases
Other unresolved missing person cases
1:26 PM, Oct 31, 2011
Written by
C. Johnson
Everyday people disappear. From teen runaways to those who don't want to be found to crime victims, according to one estimate, 2,300 people go missing each day in the U.S.
Just a few of the situations gather attention due to the tenacity of concerned family and friends, police appeals and the particular characteristics of the case.
Following are just a very few of the missing and/or abducted person investigations of girls or young women like Kristin Smart that remain unsolved.
Natalee Holloway
Natalee Holloway disappeared in May 2005 while vacationing in Aruba to celebrate her high school graduation. She didn't show up for her flight home, and the multiple searches have never turned up a body.
Hoolway was last seen with local residents Joran van der Sloot and brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. Each man would eventually be arrested several times in connection with the disappearance, but they've always been released because of a lack of evidence.
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Quote from: texasmom on October 31, 2011, 02:06:38 AM
Read that last article closely monkeys...imo it's ALL right there in black and white.
Hey, Kalpoe Tick-Tock How's that lawsuit coming? Tick-Tock Deepak Kalpoe Hey, Kalpoe Tick-Tock How's that lawsuit coming? Spent those millions yet? Tick-Tock Deepak Kalpoe Hey, Kalpoe Are you going to swear to tell the truth? Tick-Tock How's that lawsuit coming? Tick-Tock Deepak Kalpoe Will you take the stand in a court of law?
Aruba Sucks!!
TELL EVERYONE!!
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Lifesong
A little something for the Kalpoe's:
Tick Tock! Tick Tock!
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08/23/2002
Five major energy companies will have a chance to develop four blocks of
Venezuela's
Deltana Platform [Natural Gas]
04/2007 – 01/2008
Confidential Witnesses in the Class Action Lawsuit state that around the time of the IPO, Mermis was trying to attain a project out of
Venezuela
and billed the Company for trips to
Venezuela
. [pages 25 & 26]
05/2007
Schaeffer contacts Dave Holloway
06/08/2008
“The premier of Aruba made these comments during a press conference yesterday. He is just back from a working visit in Colombia.
Quote
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“This is an historic moment,” said Oduber. The premier says that altering the WEB to use
natural gas
instead of fuel oil must be possible in one year. WEB will take care of the costs, about 20 millions. The
natural gas
will have to be transported by ship in the beginning, but the construction of a pipeline must be considered on the medium- and long run. This pipeline will have to run via
Venezuela
to our island. Oduber thinks that this may take about 3 years."
11/14/2008
Gas drilling close to Aruba 14 November 2008
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ORANJESTAD - Venezuela and Russia
have started with mutual drillings for gas in sea
. One of the fields where they are gong to drill,
Cardón III, lies close to Aruba
. The Venezuelan company PdVSA and the Russian Gazprom do the exploitation. Almost 190 Venezuelans, Russians, and Americans work on the project Venezuela and Russia close to Aruba.The idea is that also the American Chevron-Texaco participates actively in the project, which is something that Venezuela has promised a few years ago. Chevron-Texaco is coping with the anti-American attitude of the Chavez-government.
Bzzz Bzzz....Boo!
Miss MuffyBee!
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Happy Halloween..
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Quote from: Kermit on October 26, 2011, 04:29:38 PM
WISH LIST ???????
MONEY TRANSACTIONS BETWEEN PLAINTIFFS AND JORAN VAN DER SLOOT;
VIDEO PLAYED IN THE BACK SEAT OF DEEPAK KALPOES CAR
POSSESSION AND/OR USE OF PORNOGRAPHIC MATERIAL
PHONE CONVERSATION BETWEEN JORAN VAN DER S LOOT AND PAUL VAN DER SLOOT
INCIDENTS OF TAKING WOMEN TO HOTELS;
Ditto
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TM
- thank you for all of the fresh articles that you provide as well as the pictorial reminders....
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Quote from: texasmom on October 31, 2011, 02:06:38 AM
Read that last article closely monkeys...imo it's ALL right there in black and white.
Remember back in 2006 there was an Amigo article regarding this. I might try to find the original article, but for attribution sake here is a link to what my search came up with (ouch)..
http://tinyurl.com/5th5yrb
ARUBA - The Parliament had authorized the government to found the Aruban oil company, Compania Arubiano di Petroleo (CAP). The idea is that this public enterprise negotiates with companies that want a concession for the search for oil and gas in the Aruban territorial waters. "Seven companies have already shown interest in the search for oil and gas in the past four years", told Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP) the Parliament.
"Oduber didn't want to reveal the names of the companies. What a nonsense; we are talking about the Parliament here. I wonder why we didn't get any information on the plans", said Mike de Meza, AVP parliament-member and owner of an engineering company that works for Valero. He asked questions about the involvement of the Netherlands in the founding of CAP. "The Netherlands has a lot of experience in the field of oil and gas. Not only that; our seas concern the Kingdom. What happens if we find oil and gas? We will immediately be in conflict with Venezuela. A few years ago Colombia found a gas deposit on the Venezuelan border, which immediately caused a conflict, and the gas deposit was never exploited. There are rumours about us having a treaty with Venezuela, but I doubt that this would fix an anticipated conflict. And what if we get entangled in a war problem? We will have to depend on the Netherlands then. I think that we have to plan ahead."
Geologist Armando Curet of the DOW will be appointed acting manager of CAP. The government had promised to recruit personnel from existing public servants for CAP. The government will need to ask the Parliament permission for decisions on concessions and for the expenditure of money. There were searches for oil and gas around Aruba in the past, but the conclusion was then that the composition of the sea-bed is very good, but too young. Nowadays there is better equipment to take more accurate measurements.
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It's good to see you Sleuth!!
I love the "Glenda" cartoon.
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Sleuth
- good to see you!
I haven't even read this but just purchased the doc that referenced the phone conversation between Joran and Paulus. Here is the conversation, we can read it together
ENGLISH
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Woooohoooo! Thanks Klaas!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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