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« Reply #560 on: November 24, 2011, 03:22:55 PM »

 

http://www.ed.nl/nieuws/algemeen/binnenland/9942986/Proces-Van-der-Sloot-begint-in-januari.ece

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Van der Sloot process begins in January   
Thursday, November 24, 2011 | 8:50 p.m. | Last updated: Thursday, November 24, 2011 | 8:52 p.m.

LIMA - The trial of murder suspect Joran van der Sloot in Peru begins on January 5. Peruvian media reported that Thursday.

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« Reply #561 on: November 24, 2011, 03:33:22 PM »

http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1338489/noticia-defensa-joran-van-der-sloot-evalua-demandar-al-peru-ante-cidh

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Defense evaluates Joran Van der Sloot Peru to sue the Commission

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Thursday November 24, 2011 - 8:24 a.m.

Aldo Cotrina, United States attorney in Dutch Joran Van der Sloot, accused of murdering Stephany Flores reported that assesses Peru to sue the American Court of Human Rights (IACHR) for violating the rights of his client. "No due process was respected," he said.

Speaking to TV Willax, Cotrina explained that there were irregularities in the police investigation. According to counsel, stated by Van der Sloot does not match the police report: "He said he only choked and hanged but the party says she died of head trauma." The hypothesis is that someone else Cotrina entered the room and gave the deathblow to Flores.

His theory was dismissed by Edward Alvarez Flores family lawyer, as the hotel security cameras did not record other people. He added that proof that their rights are respected is that the Constitutional Court dismissed the habeas corpus filed by him.

TRIAL
After nearly 18 months to remain confined in the prison Miguel Castro Castro, Joran Van der Sloot will face the trial against him for the crimes of homicide and robbery simple. This stage process will begin on January 5, ahead of El Comercio Alvarez.

The trial will be under the charge made by the Ninth Criminal Lima Senior Prosecutor posed 30 years in prison for Van der Sloot, "Alvarez said.

THE NUMBER
S/.200.000 is the amount of civil damages requiring the Dutchman Joran Van der Sloot.
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« Reply #562 on: November 24, 2011, 03:51:48 PM »

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/10997457/__Proces_Joran_begint_in_januari__.html?sn=binnenland

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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #563 on: November 24, 2011, 04:20:32 PM »

http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1338489/noticia-defensa-joran-van-der-sloot-evalua-demandar-al-peru-ante-cidh

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Speaking to TV Willax, Cotrina explained that there were irregularities in the police investigation. According to counsel, stated by Van der Sloot does not match the police report: "He said he only choked and hanged but the party says she died of head trauma." The hypothesis is that someone else Cotrina entered the room and gave the deathblow to Flores.

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That's ridiculous.   

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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #564 on: November 24, 2011, 05:18:20 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/11/24/happy-thanksgiving-2011-from-scared-monkeys/

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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #565 on: November 24, 2011, 08:15:51 PM »

Van der Sloot trial starts in January
Published on 24 November 2011 - 9:50pm


Peruvian media report that the trial of murder suspect Joran van der Sloot is scheduled to start in the capital Lima on 5 January.

Van der Sloot faces a maximum prison sentence of 30 years for the violent death of Peruvian citizen Stephany Flores in Van der Sloots’ Lima hotel room on 30 May 2010.

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http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/van-der-sloot-trial-starts-january

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« Reply #566 on: November 24, 2011, 08:35:14 PM »

It is ridiculous, texasmom.  It is a defense tactic by Cotrina meant to reduce the charge during the trial and therefore the sentence.  imo

The Confession
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/06/joran-van-der-sloots-confession-read-entire-document-here

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I got up thinking what to do. There was also blood on my shirt and on the bed. When I took my shirt and I pushed it hard on her face, until she was dead. Then I thought: now what? I left the hotel but the receptionist told me I had to move the car. I went back to room 309. I wanted to flee the hotel. I grabbed my two bags and I drove away with the car. I do not remember where. I have about five minutes driving around. Then I took a taxi to the international airport "Jorge Chavez". Then I thought that I better not by plane could go. I took a taxi to the other side of town, at a bus terminal.

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Plead guilty/Autopsy
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20471736,00.html

Joran van der Sloot will plead guilty to killing 21-year-old Stephany Flores Ramirez in Peru last May, but will argue temporary insanity, according to reports.

The Dutchman, 23, will try for a reduced sentence using the "violent emotion" defense, his lawyer, Maximo Altez, told The Associated Press.

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An attorney for Ramirez's family has spoken out on the possible plea, saying they want van der Sloot to serve a minimum of 25 years in prison.

"The manner in which the suspect killed Stephany evidenced disproportionate violence," attorney Edward Alvarez said. "The autopsy found the young woman was bludgeoned and asphyxiated."

The indictment
http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/22/joran-van-der-sloot-indicted-on-murder-and-robbery/

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According to the indictment, on May 30, 2010 Flores arrived at the table where Van der Sloot was playing poker. They talked and played poker until 5:15am, when they left the casino and went to Van der Sloot's room at Hotel Tac. Once in the room, they played online poker ("Full Tilt Poker" and "Poker Starts") until 6:14am. After the game Van der Sloot told Flores about the Natalie Holloway case, which caused Flores to hit him on the head. Van der Sloot reacted by hitting her in the face with his elbow, strangling her with his hands and suffocating her with a shirt. After he killed her he stole 860 Peruvian New Soles (about $318 USD) and various credit cards with the intent to flee. At 7:15am he left the room and returned at 8:24 with two coffee cups. He left the hotel at 8:45am.

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« Reply #567 on: November 24, 2011, 11:54:28 PM »

The lawyer for the Flores family, Edward Alvarez, comments on the previous habeas corpus filing and the police investigation.

http://www.larepublica.pe/24-11-2011/abogado-de-joran-van-der-sloot-evalua-demanda-contra-el-peru

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November 24, 2011
Attorney Joran Van der Sloot demand evaluated against Peru

According to the defense of the Dutch, the statements of his client do not match the police report.

Aldo Cotrina, defending Joran Van der Sloot, said he is considering suing the Peru at the Inter-American Court of Human Rights (IACHR) since he claimed his client's statements do not match the police report on the murder of young Peruvian Stephany Flores.

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Meanwhile, Edward Alvarez Flores family's attorney, said at the time that the hotel security cameras where the crime was not reported to others to enter the site.
 
He said further that there was no violation of the rights of the Dutch and the proof was that the Constitutional Court accepted the habeas corpus filed on their behalf, but in the end, the court declared it inadmissible.
 
The demand for Van der Sloot was intended to declare void the tax investigation and police in the criminal proceedings that followed the murder of the young Peruvian.
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« Reply #568 on: November 25, 2011, 12:57:06 AM »

http://issuu.com/awemainta/docs/25nov2011?mode=embed&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Fcolor%2Flayout.xml&backgroundColor=F8F8F8&showFlipBtn=true

Rosalie Klein and Jan van der Stratten



Dompig the new police commissioner in Suriname


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« Reply #569 on: November 25, 2011, 02:56:10 AM »


I typed it out and ran it through the Papiamentu translator after I read the other articles, so I think they have just picked up on those and he's not the new police commissioner (...yet).

http://issuu.com/awemainta/docs/25nov2011?mode=embed&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Fcolor%2Flayout.xml&backgroundColor=F8F8F8&showFlipBtn=true

not have sosten for become alto comisario of police at suriname

ultimo dianan have very informacion cu gerold dompig, chairman of sector of gold, will become the proximo alton comisario of police at suriname. buscando dompig for his comentario, past owing to tell of not know nothing of dicho intencion.

but is for of circulonan policial self, the informacion here is leave, but for of same circulo here they're feel very some for gerold dompig become they proximo boss.

of acuerdo cu circulo policial, in one function so, they're prefera of see one person cu know mucho more of ley y gerold dompig do not uno of they.

actualmente the function of alto comisario of police of surinam is ocupa for humphrey tjin lipe shie, that is ocupa the posicion here for the time being after of faction of delano braam.

the oficialnan self of cuerpo policial surnameno does not one \"stranhero\" in the posicion here, although cu gerold dompig owing to nace at surinam, but is being see because; one foreigner, already cu past owing to let surinam bay live at the netherlands, where past owing to study for inspector of police, at after muda for aruba.

at aruba, gerold dompig for several ana was comisario y is during the desaparicion of the student mericano, nathaly holloway owing to become more conoci, hour the was apunta for is vocero y esun encarga cu the team of investigacion.

the investigacion haci for fbi, the mericanonan owing to conclui cu dompig not owing to haci one good investigacion, y more bien owing to perhudica all the investigacion till cu today none person not know where nathaly holloway is. dompig owing to dicidi of retira for of cuerpo policial aruban, owing to erect one compania of siguridad, but not owing to resulta exitoso y so owing to go back surinam.

oficialnan of cuerpo of police of surinam is tell of not have nothing contra of person of gerold dompig y is being considera one person cu have much cualidad, but the same oficialnan here is prefera of see one of they same hendenan in the funcion of alton comisario of police, if this is possible. come across

http://www.gfcnieuws.com/?p=83855

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http://www.gfcnieuws.com/?p=83910

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His involvement in Natalee's case lies heavy on my stomach too.   
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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #570 on: November 25, 2011, 03:11:36 AM »

There are several other articles at the same site that are about current events concerning Gerold Dompig.

http://www.gfcnieuws.com/?s=Gerold+Dompig

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« Reply #571 on: November 25, 2011, 03:32:35 AM »

I'm pretty sure that's Van der Straten with Minister Visser

http://www.24ora.com/politica-mainmenu-18/40053-minister-dr-richard-visser-a-firma-qframework-agreementq-importante-cu-fmaa-y-fada-.html

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minister dr. richard visser owing to company "framework agreement" important cu fmaa y fada



thursday, 24 november 2011 20:05

ministerio of salubridad publico y sport owing to realisa one pace more in the caminda for establece one future solido for cuido of adiccion at aruba, hour cu minister dr. richard visser y representantenan of fmaa y fada owing to company the “framework agreement” for independisa cuido for adictonan at aruba. fmaa, fundacion for maneho of adiccion of aruba y fada, fundacion across from drugs aruba owing to wordo representa respectivamente for sra. rosita ottespeer y sr. carlos albertus. the acuerdonan, cu will enter at vigor on day 1 of january 2012, is nifica one avance much big in the proceso for mehora cuido for adicto. in the acuerdonan gobierno owing to defini the areanan of maneho y obhetivo they of the fundacionnan. minister dr. richard visser owing to remarca cu cuido for adicto is one element of cuido of salud y much family at aruba is wordo afecta for her afliccion here. the mandatario owing to tell cu the “opvang” y tratamento in cooperacion cu the netherlands is of great importancia. at this past owing to añadi cu the is considera good informacion also much necesario y past owing to remarca cu felizmente conscientisacion is take luga cu much empeño at aruba. minister dr. richard visser owing to desea the fundacionnan much compel cu the trabao they fast, cu now is miho defini, but also is trece cune responsabilidad they new.

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« Reply #572 on: November 25, 2011, 03:47:41 AM »

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/40011-michelle-winklaar-artistanan-a-uni-pa-brinda-den-exposicion-qverbonden-groepsexpoq.html

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I'm guessing Rosalie Klein couldn't make it?  Looks like her son Raymond Gesterkamp, and his cousin Michelle Gesterkamp (with the scarf Rosalie painted)...not sure who the other guy is.



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« Reply #573 on: November 25, 2011, 03:55:49 AM »

Van der Straten looks bad imo...maybe he's sick?

Or maybe the blood on the hands wears on a person after a while?

(I can't ever remember the correct way to spell his name, and I was too lazy to figure it out tonight sorry...)
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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #574 on: November 25, 2011, 04:03:16 AM »


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« Reply #576 on: November 25, 2011, 11:21:22 AM »

Gary Giordano will be set free Tuesday night.   

http://www.awe24.com/20111125/9087/Hues_a_pone_Gary_Giordano_den_libertad_entrante_diamars_awor_29_di_November

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judge owing to place gary giordano in freedom entrante

tuesday now, 29 of november 2011 1 hora happen come across,

25 of november 2011 10:29 diabierna morning after of owing to atende cu the caso of gary giordano that is being sospecha of one as or another as of the desaparicion of the lady tourist robyn gardner, the judge owing to arrive at the desicion of let the sospechoso termina cu the detencion his 30 dianan y entrante tuesday now place in freedom. after of owing to hear the desicion of judge gary owing to his wowonan owing to fill cu water y owing to cuminsa llora. in the declaracion cu the advocate mr. chris lejuez (cual will is here on in some minuut) will can hear algo more of the caso y can look at the fotonan y video relaciona cu the caso here.


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« Reply #577 on: November 25, 2011, 11:22:23 AM »

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/40090-gary-giordano-lo-recobra-su-libertad-diamars-awor.html

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gary giordano will recobra his freedom tuesday now

friday, 25 november 2011 11:26

diabierna morning huez owing to rechasa peticion of fiscal for prolonga detencion of gary giordano principal sospechoso in desaparicion of the tourist mericano robyn gardner. tuesday 29 of november for 8'or of night the will recobra his freedom.
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"We won't give up on you, Natalee.  You didn't give up on us, and we will continue with the investigation until we have all of the answers to your disappearance.  God be with you my Natalee!" Dave Holloway ARUBA
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« Reply #578 on: November 25, 2011, 11:32:40 AM »


If Joran van der Sloot is sentenced to the next 30 years in a Peruvian lockup for the murder of Stephany Flores ... could it be that Gerold Dompig will not be the only participant in the corrupt Aruban investigation that prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway who will be fleeing Dodge?

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I just have a feeling something even bigger is going to happen.  I have a feeling that Joran is going to throw people under the bus and start naming names.  Joran is mad and he will turn his anger towards Aruba for not helping him.  Everyone get ready to run.

People like:

Van der Straaten
Rudy Croes
Nelson Oduber
Karin Jannsen
Rick Smid
Bob Witt
Ben King
Michael Posner
Julia Renfro

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8145.msg1170391#msg1170391
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« Reply #579 on: November 25, 2011, 12:09:12 PM »

Was there an Aruban/Dutch connection?  Was there a behind the scenes plea deal negotiated between Aruba/Holland and Peruvian prosecutors/judges/defence attorneys ... a plea deal that would appease Joran van der Sloot and prevent him from exposing those who participated in the corrupt Aruban investigation that prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway.

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Date set for van der Sloot murder trial
Published: 9:44 am
Updated: 10:12 am


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In September, the victim's family asked a three-judge panel for a more stringent charge akin to aggravated murder, which carries a maximum sentence of life in prison, but the panel of judges ruled on the prosecution's side.

Van der Sloot's defense attorney Luis Jimenez Navarro told CNN'S In Session this was a big win for his client. If Van der Sloot is found guilty and sentenced to the maximum penalty, under Peru's jail reduction credits, he may only serve a third of the time.

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