Lively Case Discussion #638 6/10 - 6/13/2007

[SunnyinTX]

Are you considering crossing the border to join them?  

 

LilPuma
I checked out where the "Blue Owl" is located..  and it is only about 120 miles away... almost all interstate miles ....So you just never know  

WOOHOO...anyone else??

[SunnyinTX]

It’s getting very hard for many of us to maintain optimism about any of this.  At first it looked like the Dutch team had really done their homework and was in Aruba to follow-up some solid leads.  Then nothing!  They will probably issue a report saying that something happened, but the investigation was so screwed up in the first two weeks that there is nothing that they can do now.  Looks like Paulus had it all figured out from the get go……

Easy...I agree with you...sadly

[SunnyinTX]

What SunnyTX  is now SunnyMO

And the St. Louis area as at least 3 Monkeys Snoopy, SunnyTX & LdStLou.  Sounds like a Monkey party in the making  

Oldfart you'll have to get together with us.  I can tell you that Sunny and LdStLou are a hoot!!

and so is SNOOPY!!!

[SunnyinTX]

I am not feeling so delicious about this dutch investigation either.

this should be put all over the internet!!  if i knew how to do it i woud

[SunnyinTX]

I am not feeling so delicious about this dutch investigation either.

That photo makes my blood boil!
ARUBA: RESPECT HUMAN LIFE!!: ESPECIALLY IF IT"S AMERICAN!
Screw that Hell hole.  

AMEN...respect their laws that protect rapists and murderers....respect their laws! My fat ARSE!!!

[Peaches]

Easy, this is my very favorite You-Tube.  You just had to say "butts", didn't you!


Seriously funny.  And we all need some funny right NOW!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyaB5jKuZ60&mode=related&search=

[Kimmy53]

I am not feeling so delicious about this dutch investigation either.

That photo makes my blood boil!
ARUBA: RESPECT HUMAN LIFE!!: ESPECIALLY IF IT"S AMERICAN!
Screw that Hell hole.  

AMEN...respect their laws that protect rapists and murderers....respect their laws! My fat ARSE!!!

You guys just say it so well!!!!!  Doesn't that just BURN you up?  Respect?  They don't know what respect is.

[SunnyinTX]

What SunnyTX  is now SunnyMO

And the St. Louis area as at least 3 Monkeys Snoopy, SunnyTX & LdStLou.  Sounds like a Monkey party in the making  

Are you considering crossing the border to join them?  

 

LilPuma
I checked out where the "Blue Owl" is located..  and it is only about 120 miles away... almost all interstate miles ....So you just never know  

Well there ya go.  Nice day trip!!!  

Snoopy

If and when youall start planning a Monkey Meeting/Party please keep me in mind     I do not mind day trips

I'm in too OF.  Just say where and when.

Now we are getting a party together for sure!!!

[SunnyinTX]

Volunteers would have to come forth and agree to hold zitface down until the questions were all answered.

hahaha..i am sure there would be no lack of volunteers for that job!!

[Kimmy53]

Volunteers would have to come forth and agree to hold zitface down until the questions were all answered.

hahaha..i am sure there would be no lack of volunteers for that job!!

I wonder if you cross your fingers - would that keep you from getting Joran's cooties?

[truthseeker2]

Another statement regarding those first few days of interest is the contradiction in statements regarding where Joran was on Monday from 18:00 until Beth arrived at his home.  

For instance, according to Deepak's June 13th PV he claims to have called Joran @ 18:00.  Deepak states "he at that moment in time was in the casino of the Wyndham and that he was there together with Guido"

???????????????????

According to Paulus he had dropped Joran off at the Racquet Club for his 18:00 tennis lesson.  Joran also claims to have attended this tennis lesson in his June 14th PV.   If Deepak's PV is accurate that is a very significant gap in the timeline.  According to Joran he did not arrive at the Wyndham (by foot, from the racquet club - BS!! ) until 20:00 when he met Andre.

Another interesting tidbit from Andre Santos' June 20th PV;  "Because Joran and Guido wanted to play a “live game”, they told me they went to Joran’s house to pick up money to gamble with"

GUIDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  YOU MOTHER FU*&ER!!!!!!!

More gaps from midnight until Natalee's family & friends arrive.  ALL OF THEM REVOLVE AROUND GUIDO!

Grande,

I'm glad you saw that as well.

I'm also interested in the computer forensics.  Seems Joran checked his email at 10:30pm on 05/29...thirty minutes before Paulus picked him up at McD's.  If this was altered...why?  If it was not altered another lie...why?  If all of the times are altered...that's huge because that would put Joran home later than indicated on the investigation document.

If any or all of these instances were done from a cell phone they should be able to tell that.

Also, someone (PVDS) was on the internet downloading information about "drugs and alcohol" the evening of 05/30...why?

A lot of possiblilties here, I think.  Since we don't have all of the suspect and witness statements we can't tell if any of this received any attention at all.  (I'm guessing that it didn't)

[the big hammer]

vds 5/30/05 Computer Log

Hello monkeys.

A while back, there was a record posted here of the van der Sloot home computer log for the time jvds claims to have returned to home after leaving Natalee at the beach -- 5/30/05, 3:00am and forwards from there.  This showed jvds accessing soccer scores and porn movie downloads.

Does anyone know where it is, or where I can access it?

Thanks! And hope you are all well.

.

[San]

vds 5/30/05 Computer Log

Hello monkeys.

A while back, there was a record posted here of the van der Sloot home computer log for the time jvds claims to have returned to home after leaving Natalee at the beach -- 5/30/05, 3:00am and forwards from there.  This showed jvds accessing soccer scores and porn movie downloads.

Does anyone know where it is, or where I can access it?

Thanks! And hope you are all well.

.

I think this might be the document you are looking for Hammer.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=196

[klaasend]

vds 5/30/05 Computer Log

Hello monkeys.

A while back, there was a record posted here of the van der Sloot home computer log for the time jvds claims to have returned to home after leaving Natalee at the beach -- 5/30/05, 3:00am and forwards from there.  This showed jvds accessing soccer scores and porn movie downloads.

Does anyone know where it is, or where I can access it?

Thanks! And hope you are all well.

.

Hammer - here is the thread with the Computer Records PV:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=196

[nonesuche]

Easy, this is my very favorite You-Tube.  You just had to say "butts", didn't you!


Seriously funny.  And we all need some funny right NOW!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyaB5jKuZ60&mode=related&search=

Peaches       entirely too funny!

Glad to see you laughing sweet one HUGS for tomorrow !

Hi Miss Sunny, I know you're happy to be closer to family !

Hammer, good to see you pop in, we need some direction here, troops are losing steam  

[2NJSons_Mom]

Just found an interesting post regarding the reputation of ISA:

http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?t=7159

[2NJSons_Mom]

Looks like the rat is back on the island...also see a thread he started.

[Blonde]

Prime Minister Nelson Oduber said on national radio Friday night that if something happened to Holloway, it would damage the reputation of this island of 97,000 people, which depends on tourism and is considered one of the safest spots in the Caribbean.

Blonde - or anyone - do you have the original quote for this? I would like to throw it into the Murder & Crime thread.

Here is the link
http://tinyurl.com/34cv6q

[Kermit]

Back of Racquet club where homes are being built. Photo by Claussen Investigators.



Behind Racquet club. Photo by Claussen Investigators

NANCY GRACE JULY 25, 2005
T.J. WARD, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR:Ironically, later on this afternoon, I found a girl that -- a husband and who lived in the -- lived in a house just adjacent to where the water and the lake is. And she started telling me about a car that she saw about 6 or 7 weeks ago, which would be after the
disappearance of Natalee, a silver car that was in a neighborhood three or four times that night riding around the -- around the racket club and around the neighborhood that are a lot of cul de sacs.

And she started describing this car. So I asked her if I could come back and show her some pictures. So I obtained some pictures from the Kalpoe brothers` vehicle, which was -- what was really interesting was the taillights on the car had the clear lenses on the taillights.

And when I showed her the vehicle, she said, "That`s the car. That`s the car that was out here." So the car that I was showing her was the Kalpoe brothers, which was taken from the investigation from the Aruban police.

So, in fact, it may have been they were out there after the fact Natalee was missing, looking around, trying to find something they may have left behind.

GRACE: T.J., what were they doing looking out at cars going by?

WARD: I didn`t understand your question, Nancy.

GRACE: This woman and man that saw the silver car with the same type of lenses on it as the judge`s son. Why were they watching cars go by?

WARD: Well, the wife was home by herself that night. And I met the husband today, who took me in to introduce me to the wife. And she had -- there`s not that many people living in the subdivision, because it`s under construction now. SEE PHOTO'S ABOVE

And she had her windows open because she was concerned. And she was watching -- when strange cars would come in the subdivision, she took note of who was there.

GRACE: Gotcha.

WARD: And this car was just happened to be noticed when I knocked on her door and brought it to her attention.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/25/ng.01.html

[Kermit]

vds 5/30/05 Computer Log

Hello monkeys.

A while back, there was a record posted here of the van der Sloot home computer log for the time jvds claims to have returned to home after leaving Natalee at the beach -- 5/30/05, 3:00am and forwards from there.  This showed jvds accessing soccer scores and porn movie downloads.

Does anyone know where it is, or where I can access it?

Thanks! And hope you are all well.

.

JOHN: No. He only said that, while he was home, he went on his computer to chat with some friend. And the Dutch guy sent him a text message on his cell phone saying that when he got home he would also chat with him online. So he said automatically this guy was still out at the time he and his brother was home.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did he say what that message said?

JOHN: No, he didn't. He just said — the message said that, when he got home, he would talk to him online. He didn't say anything else.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161044,00.html