Lively Case Discussion #639 6/13 - 6/15/2007

[2NJSons_Mom]

As we all do, I read and see the stories about selective concern over missing persons.  At times I even question myself about such things.  However, I do not think that is what it is about.  I tend to be a one-track mind kind of person and I find it difficult to let go of the Natalee Holloway case before it is solved.  That does not mean I do not care about others that might be missing, abused, or in harm’s way.  It just means that my focus is hard and true.

Hell, I don’t know what any of that means….  

And, I don't think you are alone....for surely, I am aware and read about & have interest in others, but this one just pulled my heart strings from the start...and I have sons...as do you....

[Kermit]

Hey Everybody!

I've been drowning in blood, sweat and tears with my divorce case
which is suppose to go to trial on July 2nd so I've been out of touch.

I hope you are all doing okay...

What's going on with the Dutch?  It sounds like Aruba didn't like the
Dutch performing all those searches... did anything come from them?

What's the latest?

Hi Patti. It's good to see you. People have been asking where you were.

It feels good to know I was missed.  

I got real sick with that stomach flu and then decided it was time
for me to get some things in my life in order...  

The divorce is hard to deal with emotionally, and I think that may be
why I was spending so much time with my favorite monkeys... but
I really had to get some things done so I took leave.

I missed you all!!!

Hi Miss Patti,

I'm kermmie.

When things go adrift in one's life - just remember to find your inner tadpole!

and

it only takes 6 months and you won't remember what the other person looked like

Hi-ho!

[BTgirl]

As we all do, I read and see the stories about selective concern over missing persons.  At times I even question myself about such things.  However, I do not think that is what it is about.  I tend to be a one-track mind kind of person and I find it difficult to let go of the Natalee Holloway case before it is solved.  That does not mean I do not care about others that might be missing, abused, or in harm’s way.  It just means that my focus is hard and true.

Hell, I don’t know what any of that means….  

I think it means you need to eat LOTS more yummy fattening food.  

(It's good to be able to rationalize what one wants to do anyway.)

[Rob]

Rob,

In a Dutch interview Aruban Police Superintendent Jan van der Straten told the reporter that he doesn’t believe that Natalee is still alive.

Jan:Because I know the details of the investigation and you don't!
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/07/what_does_van_d.html

but there is this also from the same site and in the same paragraph.
Update: Apparently the translation was first provided by reader repo.

Update2 from a reader:

The correct translation of what Mr. Van der Straten said, i.e., Omdat ik het
onderzoek ken en u niet, is: "Because I am an investigator (a policeman) and you
are not."

It is not, as earlier reported, "Because I know the details and you don't."

-online translator.
Because I examine do not know and you ** which would probably mean, because I examine and you do not.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Rob,

In a Dutch interview Aruban Police Superintendent Jan van der Straten told the reporter that he doesn’t believe that Natalee is still alive.

Jan:Because I know the details of the investigation and you don't![/b]
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/07/what_does_van_d.html

that's the ticket, Kermit...I knew Rob didn't have it exactly, but never got the chance to look it up.

I think there is another quote also when he told Tim Miller that he knew the details of the case and Tim didn't.

I only remember reading the one he made to the reporter....not that that matters.

[Patti]

Old Fart:  HI!!!!  Yes, CBB did a great job, as usual and Klaas helped.
It's good to see your happy face.   Like I said before, you always
put a smile on my face.  

Rob:  Thanks...  With a seven year divorce, I am all out of fight so
from here on out, I'm doing it for my kids.  I can't tell you how
exhausted I am of the whole thing and with the state of Texas.

[Tamikosmom]

For Kermie

Had to log in to thank Miss BTgirl.

Made me smile.

 

Don't anyone tell Miss Piggy that I smooched Kermie, okay?

What happens at Scared Monkey's stays at Scared Monkey's.

 

I'm telling.

MISS PIIIIGGY!!!

[oldfart]

msmarple
What type of sound    ??  
Most noise comes from the Fan Motors..
IndyDan
Did you see the link for Desitny's(?) site for MotorCycle fans/trips last night?

Patti
HI... Looks like CBB has helped you get dressed for the Cage. :wink

Mr. O. Fart
I don't know where you got your avatar picture from, but someone at my work has one at their desk. When I saw it, I started laffin'.

Kat
 I do not think any of my kids have my Picture on their desk
Not sure about any OldFlames (FEMALE only) that may have one sitting around though
And I'm not good with Names..      

[tcumom]

Old Fart:  HI!!!!  Yes, CBB did a great job, as usual and Klaas helped.
It's good to see your happy face.   Like I said before, you always
put a smile on my face.  

Rob:  Thanks...  With a seven year divorce, I am all out of fight so
from here on out, I'm doing it for my kids.  I can't tell you how
exhausted I am of the whole thing and with the state of Texas.

Patti ~ We'll help you get thru this ~ you know the monkeys always give lots of positive thoughts, prayers, and hugs  

[BTgirl]

For Kermie

Had to log in to thank Miss BTgirl.

Made me smile.

 

Don't anyone tell Miss Piggy that I smooched Kermie, okay?

What happens at Scared Monkey's stays at Scared Monkey's.

 

I'm telling.

MISS PIIIIGGY!!!

       

[Easywriter]

As we all do, I read and see the stories about selective concern over missing persons.  At times I even question myself about such things.  However, I do not think that is what it is about.  I tend to be a one-track mind kind of person and I find it difficult to let go of the Natalee Holloway case before it is solved.  That does not mean I do not care about others that might be missing, abused, or in harm’s way.  It just means that my focus is hard and true.

Hell, I don’t know what any of that means….  

And, I don't think you are alone....for surely, I am aware and read about & have interest in others, but this one just pulled my heart strings from the start...and I have sons...as do you....

The thing that is bouncing around in my head right now is a big question.  Could we collectivliy make a difference in the Stepha Henry case?

This young woman was celebrating her recent graduation from John Jay College of Criminal Justice and was on familiar ground.  Yet, she disappeared and no one is answering questions.  Could we take this case apart minute by minute and make a difference?  I don’t know.  

[Anna]

I thought it was to CNN reporter Karl Penhaul that vd Straaten made the "I have seen the evidence and you haven't" comment.

Anyone have that one?  Janet, will you check and see if you have that report from Penhaul?

TIA

.

[Patti]

Hey Everybody!

I've been drowning in blood, sweat and tears with my divorce case
which is suppose to go to trial on July 2nd so I've been out of touch.

I hope you are all doing okay...

What's going on with the Dutch?  It sounds like Aruba didn't like the
Dutch performing all those searches... did anything come from them?

What's the latest?

Hi Patti. It's good to see you. People have been asking where you were.

It feels good to know I was missed.  

I got real sick with that stomach flu and then decided it was time
for me to get some things in my life in order...  

The divorce is hard to deal with emotionally, and I think that may be
why I was spending so much time with my favorite monkeys... but
I really had to get some things done so I took leave.

I missed you all!!!

Hi Miss Patti,

I'm kermmie.

When things go adrift in one's life - just remember to find your inner tadpole!

and

it only takes 6 months and you won't remember what the other person looked like

Hi-ho!

Yep!  I agree with that!  It's just that I found my inner tadpole, but she's
being kept in a fish bowl under the control of a lunatic who is only
interested in one thing... MONEY.

It's funner being a tadpole when you're FREE to grow...  

that's more precious than all the money in the world.

I have forgotten him a long time ago...
But, he's like an octopus - he's got a long reach
and doesn't want to let go.

It won't be long now...

[Angiex911dsptchr]

ANGIE - is this what your IE error looks like?    

 Nope .. but it may as well be..  lol
 having more  troubles this evening.. it stopped storming. I am way behind.. but IE is till slow as heck.  Catch up eventually. I dont feel well either.. so kind of in a slow poke kind of mood.  

[wreck]

Hi Monkeys - Two things.

1. Richard says that a Monkey has ALSO donated use of a timeshare/condo at New Orleans for the travel show later this month. I want to thank that Monkey! That makes two places available, which is good, because this show runs from June 27 - July 1.

2. Personal - My home computer is making noise. A steady, not happy sound. Any ideas? This is a desk top, not notebook/laptop. About 5 years old.

2) noise from a PC is usually the hard drive  

O/T
I was so hoping you'd post here tonight Wreck.  I took an online training course today - Live Meeting and in the course they had your Avatar!  When I first saw it i said - "That's Wreck".  Home Simpson's brain, first I ever saw that.

      I forgot where I found it -- but I liked it immediately!!

[Tamikosmom]

I thought it was to CNN reporter Karl Penhaul that vd Straaten made the "I have seen the evidence and you haven't" comment.

Anyone have that one?  Janet, will you check and see if you have that report from Penhaul?

TIA

.

Anna ... I have never found an official source for that particular statement by Jan Van Straaten.

Janet


http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/07/what_does_van_d.html

What Does van der Straten Know About Natalee Holloway?

h/t to Hasibokus - read more there.

In a Dutch interview Aruban Police Superintendent Jan van der Straten told the reporter that he doesn’t believe that Natalee is still alive. With regard to Natalee’s status, van der Straaten gave the following statement to a Dutch reporter:
 
Translation:
 
Rep: Any hopes for a positive outcome?
 
Jan: You always have to be hopeful, but I don’t believe anymore that we will find Natalee alive.
 
Rep: Why not?
 
Jan: Because I know the details of the investigation and you don't!
______________

Update: Apparently the translation was first provided by reader repo.

Update2 from a reader:

The correct translation of what Mr. Van der Straten said, i.e., Omdat ik het onderzoek ken en u niet, is:

"Because I am an investigator (a policeman) and you are not."

It is not, as earlier reported, "Because I know the details and you don't."

___________

[Kermit]

For Kermie

Had to log in to thank Miss BTgirl.

Made me smile.

 

Don't anyone tell Miss Piggy that I smooched Kermie, okay?

What happens at Scared Monkey's stays at Scared Monkey's.

 

I'm telling.

MISS PIIIIGGY!!!

 

[Rob]

My Vista upgrade came last week and it's been sitting bin the yellow envelope it came in since it got here. I never even opened it after all that I have heard.

I haven't had one error message since I got this Gateway. I'm not tempting F4TE.

[oldfart]

Old Fart:  HI!!!!  Yes, CBB did a great job, as usual and Klaas helped.
It's good to see your happy face.   Like I said before, you always
put a smile on my face.  

Rob:  Thanks...  With a seven year divorce, I am all out of fight so
from here on out, I'm doing it for my kids.  I can't tell you how
exhausted I am of the whole thing and with the state of Texas.

Patti ~ We'll help you get thru this ~ you know the monkeys always give lots of positive thoughts, prayers, and hugs  

Mom always said
"God does not hand you more than you can handle.. for he is always at you side"
Dad ended saying ..
"There is alwasy two sides of a story BUT Dead Beat/ Non carring  Dads should be forced to date/live with Ms. Bobbit for a bit.."
AND ..I always thought  they were both  

[Anna]

Thank you, Janet.

.