Lively Case Discussion #639 6/13 - 6/15/2007

[blah]

It just goes to show how stupid they think we really are.  A speach by Clinton or anyone else is not worth $200K

But the favor they receive in return is probably worth 10 fold.

Just pisses me off

and it stays in each other's pockets.... it's just a game between "friends" to keep "friends" in business

notice they aren't paying you or me $200K and I can think of a lot to talk about....

they didnt pay me anywhere near $200k when I actually WORKED for them

[blah]

No wonder GM is in the dumper....

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all I had to do was see the headline to know that I wanted to barf....

       

maybe they just wanted him to tell them the Monica story again

don't even get me started on that...

so Bill tell us, how'd she handle?

Was it a smooth ride?

We see it had plenty of trunk space.

[mrs. red]

good to see u mrs. red...nice dress.....

i have been internet celibate for a few weeks...don't wanna beat up people at the library to get on ya know???
actually...have pneumonia....sucks.....

got a hot tub tho......came w/ a cute hot tub guy...lol...is 23 too young for me???

23 isn't too young... not really....

[AZSunny]

According to information that DIARIO is receiving, when Joran van der Sloot was detained he started crying during interrogation and he even told officers that they buried Natalee in the neighborhood of Fishermen huts.  http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1260

I think this was a true statement but probably not at the fisherman huts area.  I think dompig was correct when he said she was moved several times. The Deep Sea would give the sloots that confidence of never being found. It seemed like the Aruban Authorities hampered all searches whether it was at the Landfill or at Sea.

I think there might have been evidence of some sort in the landfill, but I think that Natalee was probably taken out to sea. My main reason for saying that is that I think Tim must have some sort of compelling reason to invest that much in the ocean search.

One thing I cant totally dismiss BT is the initial report that the small white pick up that was spotted was the ALE vehicle that was assigned to van der Straaten.

In the beginning there was the reports of an ALE license plate spotted on that vehicle and when the plate was ran it came back to va der Straaten. Also along with that report was the fact that some sort of bloody towel was also found in the vehicle.

Rob, there was also the white vehicle supposedly seen on the beach by the fishermans huts by the fisherman at sea.  Is that what you are talking about, or where was the other sighting? Was that at the dump?

[sharon]

Good point, San....older son has thought water from the start.

Hi 2NJ  

Quick drive by from me -- any of my local colleagues who are originally from the Caribbean area (Jamaica, Panama, St Lucia, Honduras and Barbados have weighed in ) say WATER.

Their reasoning -- when you live surrounded by deep water, there is no reason to do anything else.

(I didn't want to ask if any of them ever had to actually get rid of a body)

[klaasend]

JusticeforNatalee - thanks for bringing that translation here.  Just reading it now.

[mrs. red]

Good point, San....older son has thought water from the start.

Hi 2NJ  

Quick drive by from me -- any of my local colleagues who are originally from the Caribbean area (Jamaica, Panama, St Lucia, Honduras and Barbados have weighed in ) say WATER.

Their reasoning -- when you live surrounded by deep water, there is no reason to do anything else.

(I didn't want to ask if any of them ever had to actually get rid of a body)

I agree with that... but I also agree with whomever said it that the landfill holds something... they did everything in their power to stop the searching there....

[mrs. red]

No wonder GM is in the dumper....

BLOCKED WEBSITE

all I had to do was see the headline to know that I wanted to barf....

       

maybe they just wanted him to tell them the Monica story again

don't even get me started on that...

so Bill tell us, how'd she handle?

Was it a smooth ride?

We see it had plenty of trunk space.

I can't even comment on this one...        

[mrs. red]

JusticeforNatalee - thanks for bringing that translation here.  Just reading it now.

Yes thank you... I got through the first part and now I have to shower, I feel dirty... ugh.  THis book better be in the fiction section.

[klaasend]

I can give you a list of the problems that Joran has.
He himself has said he had stolen money from his mother. He also says
that if his brothers go into his room he beats them. Joran has
completely beaten up a guy at Bahia, because according to him the guy had told
something about him to the headmaster that was not true.
Joran has destroyed more car front windows then any drug dealer on the
island. Sometimes when we are out he says: Lets go! If we ask him what
is going on he says he has smashed in a front window of a car. He also
has admitted that he has stolen property from tourists several times.
He goes to the casino's since he was 16. Everywhere where he sees a fire
alarm he has to put it on. He has performed a lot of vandalism in
several hotels. That is what I know about Joran since I know him. By now I
also know he is a super liar.

[sharon]

I agree with that... but I also agree with whomever said it that the landfill holds something... they did everything in their power to stop the searching there....

There was a post I read the other day (can't remember if FP or in here -- or an oldie that got revisited)which I unfortunately think may hold some truths  

It tied in everything -- the landfill, the cage, the plastic bag.....

And the poster stated that Natalee was in more than one place    

Now I need to somehow get back to work  

[mrs. red]

who wrote that Klaas??

[mrs. red]

O/T -

In case any of you are wondering about the top of the page where it says current bid... those are items being bid on at E-bay.... if you are interested in the item it is still being auctioned and you can join the bidding.

[mrs. red]

I agree with that... but I also agree with whomever said it that the landfill holds something... they did everything in their power to stop the searching there....

There was a post I read the other day (can't remember if FP or in here -- or an oldie that got revisited)which I unfortunately think may hold some truths  

It tied in everything -- the landfill, the cage, the plastic bag.....

And the poster stated that Natalee was in more than one place    

Now I need to somehow get back to work  

I woke up thinking about the water search with Tim... and couldn't remember how we got to the cages and the water.... and wasn't a machete discussed?

There has been so much that I am lost at times trying to remember it all...

[klaasend]

who wrote that Klaas??

Those are translations from Joran's book by a poster at BFN.

[BTgirl]

who wrote that Klaas??

Those are translations from Joran's book by a poster at BFN.

I don't understand why someone would write a book that makes him look so bad. Do you think he's proud of his behavior and wants everyone to know about it?

[mrs. red]

who wrote that Klaas??

Those are translations from Joran's book by a poster at BFN.

I don't understand why someone would write a book that makes him look so bad. Do you think he's proud of his behavior and wants everyone to know about it?

no, I meant who wrote the part about what I know of joran with the smashed windows, etc.

[klaasend]

who wrote that Klaas??

Those are translations from Joran's book by a poster at BFN.

I don't understand why someone would write a book that makes him look so bad. Do you think he's proud of his behavior and wants everyone to know about it?

no, I meant who wrote the part about what I know of joran with the smashed windows, etc.

Deepak

[mrs. red]

who wrote that Klaas??

Those are translations from Joran's book by a poster at BFN.

I don't understand why someone would write a book that makes him look so bad. Do you think he's proud of his behavior and wants everyone to know about it?

no, I meant who wrote the part about what I know of joran with the smashed windows, etc.

Deepak

that is probably one of the only true statements I have seen.... I believe every word about joran that deepak wrote...

[nonesuche]

Blah       how did she handle?    

In the 17 years we were dealers they paid more than a few presidents and political leaders to 'inspire' us at annual meetings   Bill would not qualify IMO  

BT I honestly think Joran feels invincible, it is a trait of sociopaths and he's already proven he can get away with anything with the ALE.

Hi Mrs Red - have to get back to work but just wanted to say HI to you