Lively Case Discussion #639 6/13 - 6/15/2007

[Dayhiker]

Hi ROBOTS & DayHiker too!  Missed y'all like crazy!

Anna will you shoot me your snail mail addy - I have something for you!

Hi Sunfreak, good to see you! Nothing like new information to get things turned up!    

[San]

This snippet from PVDS's PV 6/23 has this strange remark from Charles Croes,and then it has a part missing..I would like to know what C.C. meant by he didn't need to know anymore from Joran and that he'd looked into Joran's eyes and understood...WTH did C.C. see in Joran's eyes??
PVDS said:
I briefly
talked to Charles CROES who had been driving the mother of the
missing girl. He said that he didn't need to know anything more from
Joran. He said that he had looked into Joran's eyes and understood from that

HERE THERE IS A SECTION MISSING IMHO
moment we got into the police car after I had shook every ones hands,
all except the long black haired woman who was still on the phone.
WILLIAMS told me that I should count on the fact they they would want
to talk to Joran again. The mother of the girl by that time had already left.
At least I did not see her anymore. We were dropped off home by the
officers. It was starting to get light.

EVIL

[blah]

Well, take off!

Come back and let us know how it went!

 

dont know where they hide, dont have an account, dont care enough about what they think to bother with it  

I would like to say I do not care what they think as well but I do. They make fun of the Monkeys and turn around and do the same sort of things they are claiming the Monkeys do.

Hopefully Seawolf from FOB reads here and can set them straight on some of the statements. To bad Facil is no longer posting there. Such a good writer. JMHO

I also like GELs' post at RU. Again my personal opinion. Probaby Iwabbi has also posted some of the statements.

yeah but if you dont care and never see what they are saying, then they are only wasting their breath.   I couldnt tell you if they say anything about me or not because i dont go there, but if they do say stuff about me, the jokes on them because I will never see it.

[Dayhiker]

Weren't the originals numbered, the ones I think from this were posted at BFN?  I do know several pages were missing.

Dunno if they are gone for ever but remember Paulus was still working at the courthouse when the DNA order disappeared from ONLY Joran's file so anything is possible.

.

I believe you are right Anna. There was a lot of discussion when his statement was released that pages were missing.

[Rob]

Irregardless of who the co-conspirators are, whether they be Vocking, Van Der Straaten, Smit, or whomever, the central person is still Paulus van der Sloot.

Those judges connect to Rudy Croes. Croes connects to Oduber.

It's not real difficult to see what happened here.

Joran's words will never be enough. He could scream in the middle of downtown Oranjestad that he did kill Natalee and I doubt anyone who do anything.

[Anna]

i think Anna has her EYE on my shoes    

No, that's a little island with a flag sticking up on it.

That's Aruba and I have my eye on them and their cheating, lying corrupt excuse for a judicial system.

.

got any cruise missles on that boat?

 

That's classified!

 

[San]

Irregardless of who the co-conspirators are, whether they be Vocking, Van Der Straaten, Smit, or whomever, the central person is still Paulus van der Sloot.

Those judges connect to Rudy Croes. Croes connects to Oduber.

It's not real difficult to see what happened here.

Joran's words will never be enough. He could scream in the middle of downtown Oranjestad that he did kill Natalee and I doubt anyone who do anything.

You are correct Rob.  That's why he said all those things in his book.  Joran knows he will not get in trouble.

[Easywriter]

Man, all of this is confusing!  

Van Der Straaten knew that Joran was a nut job with serious problems.  ALE already knew that Natalee was not dropped off in front of the HI, yet the arrested the security guards.  And, Paulus assured the three pimp boys that the pressure was off.  Then Joran sits in jail for 3 months telling one lie after another.

If this was a “B” movie, we would all jump up and leave the theater and demand our money back!

Freakin’ Incredible!  

[Dayhiker]

She asked Joran's father to call Van Der Straaten and verify this.
Joran's father called Van Der Straaten, but he did not answer his phone.

 

What is PVDS doing ringing up Van der Straten when his son is under investigation? Have these goofballs been crooked so long they can't even recognize a simple obstruction of justice?

[blah]

i think Anna has her EYE on my shoes    

No, that's a little island with a flag sticking up on it.

That's Aruba and I have my eye on them and their cheating, lying corrupt excuse for a judicial system.

.

got any cruise missles on that boat?

 

That's classified!

 

I've got clearance, Clarance.

[Dayhiker]

Man, all of this is confusing!  

Van Der Straaten knew that Joran was a nut job with serious problems.  ALE already knew that Natalee was not dropped off in front of the HI, yet the arrested the security guards.  And, Paulus assured the three pimp boys that the pressure was off.  Then Joran sits in jail for 3 months telling one lie after another.

If this was a “B” movie, we would all jump up and leave the theater and demand our money back!

Freakin’ Incredible!  

Truth is stranger than fiction isn't it Easy? This new information is almost too bizarre to comprehend. What the hell have they been doing for two years?

[2NJSons_Mom]

Saturday June 4th 2005

On a certain moment the mobile phone of Joran's mother ringed. She
stood up and went outside.
After a while she came back and said that she had heard from a friend
that they had found the girl.
She asked Joran's father to call Van Der Straaten and verify this.
Joran's father called Van Der Straaten, but he did not answer his phone.

Then we have this article that says Natalee was dead but later said the story was wrong it was a 16 year old boy who died not Natalee. Error in reporting? Is there a obituary for a 16 yr old male who drowned on 5-4-05 to 5-06-07??

Kerwin Anthony Orville Goijla
13 Aug 1988 - 04 Jun 2005

[greeneyedlady]

Well, take off!

Come back and let us know how it went!

 

dont know where they hide, dont have an account, dont care enough about what they think to bother with it  

I would like to say I do not care what they think as well but I do. They make fun of the Monkeys and turn around and do the same sort of things they are claiming the Monkeys do.

Hopefully Seawolf from FOB reads here and can set them straight on some of the statements. To bad Facil is no longer posting there. Such a good writer. JMHO

I also like GELs' post at RU. Again my personal opinion. Probaby Iwabbi has also posted some of the statements.

Hi Sam-if you're talking about the new translations that were done today...Sarge posted them at RU. I think Windy City posted them at FOB too.

[blah]

I've got clearance, Clarance.

http://www.garnersclassics.com/wavs/clearnce.wav

[Dayhiker]

Irregardless of who the co-conspirators are, whether they be Vocking, Van Der Straaten, Smit, or whomever, the central person is still Paulus van der Sloot.

Those judges connect to Rudy Croes. Croes connects to Oduber.

It's not real difficult to see what happened here.

Joran's words will never be enough. He could scream in the middle of downtown Oranjestad that he did kill Natalee and I doubt anyone who do anything.

Greetings Rob! Can you imagine the bombshells we haven't seen, the ones he didn't put in his book?

[SunFreak2]

Hi ROBOTS & DayHiker too!  Missed y'all like crazy!

Anna will you shoot me your snail mail addy - I have something for you!

Sure, and I sent you my own Yorkie happenings a few days ago.

I read your reports with great concern and am so happy they are coming back good!

Love your little baby monkey avatar, too.

[/b]

Thanks, Anna.  I will go look for my email on your little Yorks.

[2NJSons_Mom]

*******,

Here is the link I meant to post with that teen Obit:

http://www.mementomori.net/june05.html

[Rob]

*******- the only people I know that died around the time of Natalee are Juni Tromp who was stabbed by the Rasta on the same night Natalee had her ill fated encounter with the pimps and the other young woman Jailitza* who died around the 5th.

no young kid that I know of.

[greeneyedlady]

This snippet from PVDS's PV 6/23 has this strange remark from Charles Croes,and then it has a part missing..I would like to know what C.C. meant by he didn't need to know anymore from Joran and that he'd looked into Joran's eyes and understood...WTH did C.C. see in Joran's eyes??
PVDS said:
I briefly
talked to Charles CROES who had been driving the mother of the
missing girl. He said that he didn't need to know anything more from
Joran. He said that he had looked into Joran's eyes and understood from that

HERE THERE IS A SECTION MISSING IMHO
moment we got into the police car after I had shook every ones hands,
all except the long black haired woman who was still on the phone.
WILLIAMS told me that I should count on the fact they they would want
to talk to Joran again. The mother of the girl by that time had already left.
At least I did not see her anymore. We were dropped off home by the
officers. It was starting to get light.

EVIL

That's my thoughts too,San

[Rob]

*******,

Here is the link I meant to post with that teen Obit:

http://www.mementomori.net/june05.html

 WELL! there he is... thank you.