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Author Topic: Lisa Irwin 10 Mo., KC MO, Missing since 10-04-11 #1 10/04/11 - 10/11/11  (Read 89529 times)
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« Reply #480 on: October 08, 2011, 12:01:41 AM »

Ok so if you have a missing child you call LE they should come in and search the whole house?  Than the investigators come in and take out any evidence  pertaining to the crime of a missing child.  and look for forensic evidence.

I want to know where the black fingerprint dust is and why that sheet was not taken for hair and fiber.  and further why are they letting media in there already?  I'd sure hate to be this LE if they FUBAR'ed this one.  

This is very disturbing to me.  
Wow, good point fatcat,  where is all the evidence of fingerprint dust?  Maybe family cleaned it all up? I sure hope so...otherwise that seems bad
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« Reply #481 on: October 08, 2011, 12:06:02 AM »

thank you Muffy for the video.  So mom didn't take the LDT until Thursday?  I wonder if that is what the argument was about at the command post that day.

Mom should get an Oscar.
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« Reply #482 on: October 08, 2011, 12:17:09 AM »

http://www.kmbc.com/r-slideshow/29423242/detail.html

new pictures taken Oct 2nd.
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« Reply #483 on: October 08, 2011, 12:22:17 AM »

I understand how it is easy to feel sorry for mom Deborah in her interviews because she is crying so hard.  I can't put my finger on it but I think it's all an act.  If I was crying that hard I wouldn't be able to talk so clearly.  She defends herself loudly and aggressively but can turn on the tears like a faucet.  And the fiance, I can't figure him out - he just sits there all meek and mild.  They are both dressed in jeans and sweatshirts or hoodies yet Lisa is put to bed wearing shorts and a top.

When my son was an infant I had built in radar.  The beginning of a cry would wake my up.  So how can all the lights be on in the house and not wake a person up.  I would still wake up.  Wouldn't that scare you?  Lisa had a cold with a cough and that would make me even more alert.  He put Lisa to bed at 10:30 and laid down with her 6 year old son at 10:30 and fell asleep.  The story she is telling is just too down pat and convenient.  I'm just not buying it - it sounds and looks rehearsed to me.  Something is wrong. 
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« Reply #484 on: October 08, 2011, 12:23:47 AM »

There is a Phillip Netz listed at their address on Lister.
http://radaris.com/p/Anthony/Netz/MO/

Uh oh...that may be one of the kids...sorry about that.

Ummm...well, I don't think he is a kid...unless it's okay that he is drinking with what appears to be Jeremy...can I post the FB link?

did you post it and I missed it?  The children are B and M first initials I think.
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« Reply #485 on: October 08, 2011, 12:30:07 AM »

There is a Phillip Netz listed at their address on Lister.
http://radaris.com/p/Anthony/Netz/MO/

Uh oh...that may be one of the kids...sorry about that.

Ummm...well, I don't think he is a kid...unless it's okay that he is drinking with what appears to be Jeremy...can I post the FB link?

did you post it and I missed it?  The children are B and M first initials I think.

No, I wasn't sure about it...but it isn't one of the sons.  But, he has the same address on Lister...so I wonder if he lived there or if he still lives there?  I believe that I can post it since he isn't a minor...or he doesn't seem to be since he is drinking shots.  Here it is...https://www.facebook.com/phillynetz?sk=wall
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« Reply #486 on: October 08, 2011, 12:32:51 AM »

TU labubske. 
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« Reply #487 on: October 08, 2011, 12:36:50 AM »

I understand how it is easy to feel sorry for mom Deborah in her interviews because she is crying so hard.  I can't put my finger on it but I think it's all an act.  If I was crying that hard I wouldn't be able to talk so clearly.  She defends herself loudly and aggressively but can turn on the tears like a faucet.  And the fiance, I can't figure him out - he just sits there all meek and mild.  They are both dressed in jeans and sweatshirts or hoodies yet Lisa is put to bed wearing shorts and a top.

When my son was an infant I had built in radar.  The beginning of a cry would wake my up.  So how can all the lights be on in the house and not wake a person up.  I would still wake up.  Wouldn't that scare you?  Lisa had a cold with a cough and that would make me even more alert.  He put Lisa to bed at 10:30 and laid down with her 6 year old son at 10:30 and fell asleep.  The story she is telling is just too down pat and convenient.  I'm just not buying it - it sounds and looks rehearsed to me.  Something is wrong. 

this will sound strange but I try not to get into people's heads to much.  Most people are just to strange one way or another in normal situations much less a crisis.  How one person acts in any given situation is just to subjective for me to be objective unless I know them personally for a while imo. 
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« Reply #488 on: October 08, 2011, 12:45:46 AM »

They were on nightline tonight and I missed it - here's the link.

http://abcnews.go.com/watch/nightline/SH5584743/VD55146825/nightline-1006-missing-babys-parents-desperate-plea
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« Reply #489 on: October 08, 2011, 12:47:37 AM »

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Okay...apparantly, these rumors are coming from this guy - so only treat as rumor for now but will be interesting what 'tips' he claims to have: http://www.myspace.com/alonzo_washington/blog/544471290

yea i fig rumor too
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« Reply #490 on: October 08, 2011, 12:57:21 AM »

There is a Phillip Netz listed at their address on Lister.
http://radaris.com/p/Anthony/Netz/MO/

Uh oh...that may be one of the kids...sorry about that.

Ummm...well, I don't think he is a kid...unless it's okay that he is drinking with what appears to be Jeremy...can I post the FB link?

did you post it and I missed it?  The children are B and M first initials I think.

No, I wasn't sure about it...but it isn't one of the sons.  But, he has the same address on Lister...so I wonder if he lived there or if he still lives there?  I believe that I can post it since he isn't a minor...or he doesn't seem to be since he is drinking shots.  Here it is...https://www.facebook.com/phillynetz?sk=wall

Well Phillip is at least 20...here is Myspace:  http://www.myspace.com/moguy410  Wonder why his address is listed there on Lister with Deb and Jeremy?
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« Reply #491 on: October 08, 2011, 01:26:43 AM »

There is a Phillip Netz listed at their address on Lister.
http://radaris.com/p/Anthony/Netz/MO/

Uh oh...that may be one of the kids...sorry about that.

Ummm...well, I don't think he is a kid...unless it's okay that he is drinking with what appears to be Jeremy...can I post the FB link?

did you post it and I missed it?  The children are B and M first initials I think.

No, I wasn't sure about it...but it isn't one of the sons.  But, he has the same address on Lister...so I wonder if he lived there or if he still lives there?  I believe that I can post it since he isn't a minor...or he doesn't seem to be since he is drinking shots.  Here it is...https://www.facebook.com/phillynetz?sk=wall

Well Phillip is at least 20...here is Myspace:  http://www.myspace.com/moguy410  Wonder why his address is listed there on Lister with Deb and Jeremy?
I am not positive and I can not provide a source but I think Jeremy's parents live nearby, same street (?) Perhaps it is family property or propert
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« Reply #492 on: October 08, 2011, 01:47:57 AM »

Ok so if you have a missing child you call LE they should come in and search the whole house?  Than the investigators come in and take out any evidence  pertaining to the crime of a missing child.  and look for forensic evidence.

I want to know where the black fingerprint dust is and why that sheet was not taken for hair and fiber.  and further why are they letting media in there already?  I'd sure hate to be this LE if they FUBAR'ed this one.  

This is very disturbing to me.  

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Just wanted to note that I see now that the Irwin's let the media into the house not LE, my bad.
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« Reply #493 on: October 08, 2011, 08:26:00 AM »

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2011/10/08/police-search-landfill-as-babys-mom-fends-off-accusations.html
Police search landfill as baby’s mom fends off accusations
By  Maria Sudekum Fisher
Associated Press Saturday October 8, 2011 7:17 AM
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — FBI agents searched a Kansas landfill yesterday in connection with the disappearance of a 10-month-old Missouri girl, just hours after the child’s mother said police accused her of being involved.

Agents and Kansas City police spent about two hours at the Deffenbaugh Industries landfill in the suburb of Shawnee, said FBI spokeswoman Bridget Patton, who confirmed that the activity was related to the search for Lisa Irwin.

The girl’s parents have said she was snatched from her crib in the night.

Patton said it was the second time the FBI had been at the landfill, which investigators also searched Tuesday — the day the baby was reported missing. Police said agents also used metal detectors to search the family’s yard.
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« Reply #494 on: October 08, 2011, 09:13:33 AM »

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-baby-lisa-teen-questioned-police-california-tip/story?id=14695496
Missing Baby Lisa: Teen Questioned as Police Look Into California Tip
October 8, 2011

Authorities are looking into two new leads today in the case of a missing 10-month-old Missouri baby.
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On Friday, a teenage neighbor of Lisa's parents was questioned by investigators and forensic experts took a DNA sample, a source told ABC News. That neighbor was apparently at the home the day Lisa vanished and also knew the access code to the family's garage.

However, police said they still have no suspects.

Investigators are also looking into reports from the west coast, where a couple was seen with a small child fitting Lisa's description, relative Mike Lerette told ABC affiliate KMBC-TV.

"They're pursuing surveillance tape on a couple with the baby in California," said Lerette.
"I can tell you based on experience of working high profile abductions that you get leads from literally all over the world. Is that possible? Of course it's possible. Is it likely? I don't think so," Garrett said. "I think this situation is probably going to stay within the Kansas City area."

FBI Special agent and ABC News consultant Brad Garrett said the first of those leads is a more feasible possibility than the second from California.


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« Reply #495 on: October 08, 2011, 09:46:38 AM »

DNA from a teen?  Interesting.
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« Reply #496 on: October 08, 2011, 09:59:13 AM »

DNA from a teen?  Interesting.
They might be on to something, MOO might explain  how he got in to the home ( he knew access code to garage), neighbor sees man walking with baby in the middle of the night , fire at dumpster (with walking distance, I heard three min walk), it was reported the teenager was at the house the evening before....................And he wasnt a stranger to baby lisa...............wow I dont know what to think anymore..........
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« Reply #497 on: October 08, 2011, 10:07:14 AM »

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/08/sneak-peek-judge-jeanines-exclusive-interview-with-baby-lisas-parents/
Sneak Peek: Judge Jeanine’s Exclusive Interview with Baby Lisa’s Parents
by Justice With Judge Jeanine Posted in: Baby Lisa, Lisa Irwin
9:39 am ET October 8, 2011
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« Reply #498 on: October 08, 2011, 10:24:29 AM »



http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-retired-fbi-agent-hope-starting-to-fade-in-search-for-baby-lisa-20111007,0,7006989.story
Retired FBI Agent: Hope Starting to Fade in Search for Baby Lisa
October 7, 2011

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Michael Tabman spent 24 years with the FBI, and is now a private security consultant and author. He says that in the case of missing 10-month-old Lisa Irwin, he was initially optimistic that the child would soon be found. But now he says that he's not so sure.

6:27 Video at Link
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« Reply #499 on: October 08, 2011, 10:27:00 AM »

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/lisa-irwin-inside-search-14695172
Lisa Irwin: Inside Look Into the Search
Former FBI agent Brad Garrett gives an in-depth look into the case.
October 8, 2011

Video at Link
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