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Author Topic: Lisa Irwin 10 Mo., KC MO, Missing since 10-04-11 #1 10/04/11 - 10/11/11  (Read 321088 times)
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« Reply #600 on: October 09, 2011, 02:03:52 PM »

http://yfrog.com/nxlagaej

maybe they are having second thoughts of the window being the point of entry.............

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« Reply #601 on: October 09, 2011, 02:05:48 PM »

In  older homes  built in the late 50's early 60's the screens were put on and inserted into a track and a metal clip pushed over to lock and keep in place.. I wonder why the screen wasn't cut vs trying to put the screen in.. I think this is why the screen was bent trying to break in.. Would of been alot easier , less noise and less time consuming to just cut the screen.
Still interesting that it was a front window facing the street..

I have bent many a screen in my life trying to get into my house (when I was a kid).  They were easy to bend.  Also the old louver windows were easy to remove and get into the house that way. 
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« Reply #602 on: October 09, 2011, 02:08:54 PM »

In  older homes  built in the late 50's early 60's the screens were put on and inserted into a track and a metal clip pushed over to lock and keep in place.. I wonder why the screen wasn't cut vs trying to put the screen in.. I think this is why the screen was bent trying to break in.. Would of been alot easier , less noise and less time consuming to just cut the screen.
Still interesting that it was a front window facing the street..

I have bent many a screen in my life trying to get into my house (when I was a kid).  They were easy to bend.  Also the old louver windows were easy to remove and get into the house that way. 

I know what you mean Klaas..  My kids bend many of my screens trying to get in because they lost their key..
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« Reply #603 on: October 09, 2011, 02:12:23 PM »

Just Thinking Outloud..

I wonder if neighbors notice the screen before if it looked bent before and if LE  can tell
if this was an old issue with the screen rather than a new incident with bent window..
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« Reply #604 on: October 09, 2011, 02:13:07 PM »

Just Thinking Outloud..

I wonder if neighbors notice the screen before if it looked bent before and if LE  can tell
if this was an old issue with the screen rather than a new incident with bent window.. screen.
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« Reply #605 on: October 09, 2011, 02:14:16 PM »

Sure looks to me like someone could fit thru that window...
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« Reply #606 on: October 09, 2011, 02:15:38 PM »

I read on JQ (unconfirmed) that little blue bins (recycle things) were removed from the front of the house.
Trying not to over-do on pasting their link Smile   
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« Reply #607 on: October 09, 2011, 02:17:03 PM »

Just Thinking Outloud..

I wonder if neighbors notice the screen before if it looked bent before and if LE  can tell
if this was an old issue with the screen rather than a new incident with bent window.. screen.

also you'd think mom might of noticed a corner popped out the night before while she was out there with the neighbor mom?
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« Reply #608 on: October 09, 2011, 02:18:57 PM »

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/detectives-back-at-irwin-home%2C-recreating-abduction
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« Reply #609 on: October 09, 2011, 02:19:27 PM »

Can anyone tell what the detective is standing on to get in the window?

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« Reply #610 on: October 09, 2011, 02:21:54 PM »

Just Thinking Outloud..

I wonder if neighbors notice the screen before if it looked bent before and if LE  can tell
if this was an old issue with the screen rather than a new incident with bent window.. screen.

also you'd think mom might of noticed a corner popped out the night before while she was out there with the neighbor mom?

IDK fatcatlurker..

Mom might not be so truthful if this was an old issue with the screen.. Still wondering why it took a couple of days coming out regarding the cells phones being stolen..
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« Reply #611 on: October 09, 2011, 02:24:52 PM »

Can anyone tell what the detective is standing on to get in the window?



I had those size of windows before and you can get inside and outside climbing through..
When I sold my home it was not consider a fire issue because you could get out
from the windows..
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« Reply #612 on: October 09, 2011, 02:29:43 PM »

http://yfrog.com/nxlagaej

maybe they are having second thoughts of the window being the point of entry.............



I notice the front light by the front door.. Was the light on that evening?
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« Reply #613 on: October 09, 2011, 02:39:29 PM »


 ::snipping2::

Kansas City, Kan., at the Kansas Speedway, flyers were being given out by Irwin’s aunt, Ashley Irwin. T-shirts were also being sold for $15. The money from the shirts is supposed to go to a reward fund, which has not been officially set up yet.

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Read more: http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/detectives-back-at-irwin-home%2C-recreating-abduction#ixzz1aJLN9oWl
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« Reply #614 on: October 09, 2011, 02:39:55 PM »

Are we allowed to give our opinion on what we thought happened that night?
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« Reply #615 on: October 09, 2011, 02:42:27 PM »

Just Thinking Outloud..

I wonder if neighbors notice the screen before if it looked bent before and if LE  can tell
if this was an old issue with the screen rather than a new incident with bent window.. screen.

also you'd think mom might of noticed a corner popped out the night before while she was out there with the neighbor mom?

IDK fatcatlurker..

Mom might not be so truthful if this was an old issue with the screen.. Still wondering why it took a couple of days coming out regarding the cells phones being stolen..

waiting for the cell phones to be used? 
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« Reply #616 on: October 09, 2011, 02:45:02 PM »

Are we allowed to give our opinion on what we thought happened that night?

Yes as far as I know...let's have it.  I as usual have more than a few....covering both sides of the fence.
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« Reply #617 on: October 09, 2011, 02:49:14 PM »

Just Thinking Outloud..

I wonder if neighbors notice the screen before if it looked bent before and if LE  can tell
if this was an old issue with the screen rather than a new incident with bent window.. screen.

also you'd think mom might of noticed a corner popped out the night before while she was out there with the neighbor mom?

IDK fatcatlurker..

Mom might not be so truthful if this was an old issue with the screen.. Still wondering why it took a couple of days coming out regarding the cells phones being stolen..

waiting for the cell phones to be used? 

good point.  Because LE stated they knew about them from parents "that day" whatever that means.  They do not have Kelsey's law which could of gotten the phone info asap so I guess they should have it soon - atleast I hope.

They have dad's work cellphone right?  So they should have any info on that already imo.
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« Reply #618 on: October 09, 2011, 02:57:23 PM »

Are we allowed to give our opinion on what we thought happened that night?

Yes as far as I know...let's have it.  I as usual have more than a few....covering both sides of the fence.
Okay, I have a question that possibly has already been answered, but I cannot find it in any articles or interviews that I have reviewed.  Is the neighbor teenager that was interviewed male or female?  Was this teenager a sometimes babysitter?  thanks in advance for your assistance.
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« Reply #619 on: October 09, 2011, 03:00:07 PM »

Are we allowed to give our opinion on what we thought happened that night?

I'd be interested. 

I don't have a 100% conclusion yet but there are two things I do know.

1.  Mom is crying crocodile tears. and...
2.  Dad is acting totally bizarre.

So my conclusion so far has to be if the two main people are acting this way - something is wrong here.  I know people all grieve in different ways but the mom seems to cry on cue but it can change in a flash when she is defending herself.  And the fiance might as well be hung on the wall as a stuffed trophy for all the emotion he gives for both his daughter and his fiance.  He can't even find the wherewithal to comfort the mom. 
   
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