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Author Topic: Lisa Irwin 10 Mo., KC MO, Missing since 10-04-11 #1 10/04/11 - 10/11/11  (Read 305153 times)
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« Reply #80 on: October 06, 2011, 11:41:50 AM »

There's two new details this morning, from their interviews at GMA and Today show.

There were three cellphones stolen from the home, one of them not working. It is being said that Deborah was adding numbers to her contact list and they were sitting on a counter. No details of where the counter was, on which room?

Also, that when the father came home the lights were on inside the house. No mention of which particular rooms had the lights on.

This morning the search is on the woods behind the home, and in nearby manholes. Police is opening them and checking them out.

There was another "sighting" on a truck stop, in which a man was seen with a baby. Police is checking it out.

The blog which is best covering this:

http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1a0YENQcL

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« Reply #81 on: October 06, 2011, 11:43:04 AM »

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« Reply #82 on: October 06, 2011, 11:50:56 AM »

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« Reply #83 on: October 06, 2011, 11:54:20 AM »



http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1a0YENQcL
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« Reply #84 on: October 06, 2011, 12:04:30 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/US/baby-lisa-missing-parents-growing-deperate-search-continues/story?id=14679914
Baby Lisa Missing: Parents Growing Deperate as Search Continues
October 6, 2011

The Missouri parents of missing 10-month-old Lisa Irwin revealed this morning that their cell phones were missing when they fantically tried to call 911 after discovering that their "Pumpkin Pie" was not in her crib.
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"The windows were open and lights were on and she was nowhere to be found," Jeremy Irwin told "Good Morning America" today. He also said that his front door was unlocked when he returned home to find his daughter missing at 4:00 a.m. from a job as an overnight electrician.

"They took her and took all of our phones so we couldn't call anybody," Irwin said.

Lisa's mother, Deborah Bradley, said that she had left three cell phones on the kitchen counter where she had been re-programming the numbers.

"We were running around the house and were screaming for [Lisa] and she was nowhere," Bradley said. "Then I said, 'Call 911, call 911." But Jeremy couldn't find the cell phones. "They were gone."
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rwin, who lives with Deborah and her two other children from pervious relationships, described how he returned from work around 4 a.m.

"The windows were open and the lights were on, and she was no where to be found," he said. "We've been going over everything in our minds. We just don't have any idea."

Police Capt. Steve Young said there are no major leads in the case, while Kansas City police and FBI agents continued their investigation and search for the baby. More than 300 law officers have been using helicopters, all-terrain vehicles and door-to-door interviews in the search.
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Lisa was last seen at 10:30 p.m. Monday asleep in her crib at her parents' home. When her father arrived home at 4 a.m. from an overnight shift as an electrician, he discovered that Lisa was missing. The parents immediately called police.

While police initially fixated on a window and screen in the bedroom that appeared to have been tampered with and might have been where a kidnapper entered and exited, they are not certain such was the case.

"We are interviewing family and friends just to eliminate everyone's that close to the family as suspects," Officer Darin Snapp said.

He described the family's neighborhood as a "middle-class, very quiet neighborhood."

Ernie Allen of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children said that infant abduction cases are relatively rare. There have been 278 documented cases in which newborns or infants have been abducted since 1983.
Forty-six percent, or 128 cases, involved instances in which the children were taken from health care locations, hospitals, for instance. Forty percent, or 112 cases, involved children taken from homes. Of the total 278 cases, children were returned home safely in 266 instances.
"The typical profile of the abductor of an infant is a woman, usually an emotionally disturbed woman who has lost a child or wants a child for some reason," Allen told ABC News.
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« Reply #85 on: October 06, 2011, 12:07:44 PM »

Chopper over Irwin Home..


http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1a0YENQcL
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« Reply #86 on: October 06, 2011, 12:09:49 PM »

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44798732/ns/today-today_people/t/parents-missing-baby-well-do-anything-get-her/#.To3RQ7KVqT9
Parents of missing baby: 'We'll do anything to get her'
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« Reply #87 on: October 06, 2011, 12:11:58 PM »

Police, FBI, Return to Irwin Home in Search of Baby Lisa

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10:38 a.m. CDT, October 6, 2011
KANSAS CITY, Mo.—

Police and FBI returned to the Irwin home for the third day in search of missing 10-month-old Lisa Irwin. Police plan to search in areas they've already search, but what kind of evidence they're looking for is still unclear.

Baby Lisa, missing since early Tuesday morning, captured the nation's attention as her parents addressed the national media on Thursday morning. Jeremy Irwin and Debbie Bradley appeared exhausted. Through tears Debbie spoke about her missing daughter and pleaded for her safe return.

For the first time, the media learned from the parents that three cell phones were also missing from the home, however, police would not comment on this information. The parents also said the window that appeared tampered with, first believed to be Lisa's bedroom window, is actually a window in the family's computer room. FBI revisited the home on Wednesday and concentrated their efforts around the window, but investigators are not releasing any information as to what, if any, evidence was found.

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http://www.kwch.com/news/wdaf-authorities-continue-search-for-missing-baby-20111005,0,5393490.story
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« Reply #88 on: October 06, 2011, 12:17:12 PM »

Police, FBI, Return to Irwin Home in Search of Baby Lisa

Web Staff

10:38 a.m. CDT, October 6, 2011
KANSAS CITY, Mo.—

Police and FBI returned to the Irwin home for the third day in search of missing 10-month-old Lisa Irwin. Police plan to search in areas they've already search, but what kind of evidence they're looking for is still unclear.

Baby Lisa, missing since early Tuesday morning, captured the nation's attention as her parents addressed the national media on Thursday morning. Jeremy Irwin and Debbie Bradley appeared exhausted. Through tears Debbie spoke about her missing daughter and pleaded for her safe return.

For the first time, the media learned from the parents that three cell phones were also missing from the home, however, police would not comment on this information. The parents also said the window that appeared tampered with, first believed to be Lisa's bedroom window, is actually a window in the family's computer room. FBI revisited the home on Wednesday and concentrated their efforts around the window, but investigators are not releasing any information as to what, if any, evidence was found.

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http://www.kwch.com/news/wdaf-authorities-continue-search-for-missing-baby-20111005,0,5393490.story

 

Something is hinky.

Janet

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« Reply #89 on: October 06, 2011, 12:18:37 PM »

Police, FBI, Return to Irwin Home in Search of Baby Lisa

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10:38 a.m. CDT, October 6, 2011
KANSAS CITY, Mo.—

Police and FBI returned to the Irwin home for the third day in search of missing 10-month-old Lisa Irwin. Police plan to search in areas they've already search, but what kind of evidence they're looking for is still unclear.

Baby Lisa, missing since early Tuesday morning, captured the nation's attention as her parents addressed the national media on Thursday morning. Jeremy Irwin and Debbie Bradley appeared exhausted. Through tears Debbie spoke about her missing daughter and pleaded for her safe return.

For the first time, the media learned from the parents that three cell phones were also missing from the home, however, police would not comment on this information. The parents also said the window that appeared tampered with, first believed to be Lisa's bedroom window, is actually a window in the family's computer room. FBI revisited the home on Wednesday and concentrated their efforts around the window, but investigators are not releasing any information as to what, if any, evidence was found.

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http://www.kwch.com/news/wdaf-authorities-continue-search-for-missing-baby-20111005,0,5393490.story

 

Something is hinky.

Janet



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« Reply #90 on: October 06, 2011, 12:21:30 PM »

Okay, so these objects were taken from the home: one baby, and three cellphones.

Why would anyone take something from a home?
Because it is of value to that person. Obviously the baby is of value, but why the phones?

Maybe the perpetrator tried to delay a call to 911?
But, then why leave the lights on? Why turn the lights on in the first place?
A 911 call could be made from one of neighbor's, why take the phones?
Who made the phone call to 911, anyway?

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Could this have been a robbery that turned into a baby snatching? IF you were a thief... would you choose this home in the neighborhood to rob?

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Anyway, so far the events look like this (not necessarily in this order):

1.   Someone took baby
2.   Someone cut screen to make it appear that the point of entry was the window
3.   someone turned the lights on
4.   someone took the cellphones (1 not working)
5.   someone walked out the front door with a stolen baby and three cellphones
6.   someone who knew the man of the house would be away for hours
7.   someone not afraid to wake the mother or the kids inside the home
8.   someone not afraid to leave the lights on inside the home, but took the phones
9.   someone didn't mind that there were dogs in the neighborhood
10. someone didn't care that there is a lamp pole right in front of the house
11. someone not afraid of being seen if a neighbor came out to walk a dog

This, to me, says that the perp was someone VERY familiar with the neighborhood, the home, the people inside and their routines.

Of course, this could also be a family situation. We have seen this before in so many cases. The baby appears well cared for, and very much loved. But, maybe one of the parents lost it and hurt the child, then is trying to hide it the best way he/she can.

Not saying that this is the case, but it has happened before.

The next few days will tell, just hoping it's not the parents and that the baby is alive and well, and she's returned to her family.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15611288/police-10-month-old-girl-abducted

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« Reply #91 on: October 06, 2011, 12:27:22 PM »

So the dad came home from work.. Where was his cell phone? He didn't take his cell phone with him to work??
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« Reply #92 on: October 06, 2011, 12:34:39 PM »

Frantic search underway for 10-month-old Kansas City girl apparently snatched from her crib.

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Lisa was last seen about 10:30 p.m. Monday night, asleep in her crib and wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with pictures of white kittens.

She was discovered missing five hours later after her father returned home from work to find an open window, unlocked front door and all the lights on.

In an emotional news conference Thursday, Lisa's dad, Jeremy Irwin, said he first checked on his 6- and 8-year old sons and then went to Lisa's room and discovered her gone.

Mom Deborah Bradley was asleep in the house, and woke only when Irwin came home.

"I said, 'What do you mean she is not in her crib?'" Bradley said. "I just knew, you know, that something was really wrong."

"We ran around the house screaming for her, but she was nowhere."

Also missing from the home were three cell phones, apparently taken to delay the family from contacting cops.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/10/06/2011-10-06_frantic_search_underway_for_10monthold_kansas_city_girl_apparently_snatched_from.html#ixzz1a1IjSgE0


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« Reply #93 on: October 06, 2011, 12:42:12 PM »

 Mo. Parents Describe Panic After Baby Disappeared

By BILL DRAPER and MARIA SUDEKUM FISHER Associated Press
KANSAS CITY, Mo. October 6, 2011 (AP)


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he child was last seen around 10:30 p.m. Monday when her mother checked on her in her crib. Her father discovered the baby missing about five hours later, when he got home from a late-night shift at work.

Police have said one possibility they were investigating was whether someone entered the home through a front window and snatched the baby, but they haven't pointed to any sign of forced entry.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/search-missing-mo-girl-generates-frustration-14679419
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« Reply #94 on: October 06, 2011, 01:16:46 PM »

So the dad came home from work.. Where was his cell phone? He didn't take his cell phone with him to work??

Good question.

Agreed, even if it wasn't his first night on the job, bringing a cellphone in the truck makes sense if he has small kids (who can get sick), and a wife who may want to contact him in case of emergency.

And, most contractors I know have one in the truck in case the boss wants to call about the job.

I wish to know where the 911 call came from, and who made it.

Just to know.


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« Reply #95 on: October 06, 2011, 01:23:34 PM »

The door was left unlocked and the lights were on?  It would seem to me that if I were going to take the baby, I would not turn lights on in case I could be seen.  I just don't know about this one.
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« Reply #96 on: October 06, 2011, 01:28:04 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/06/justice/missouri-missing-girl/
Search for missing Missouri 10-month-old in third day
October 6, 2011

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Lisa Irwin was last seen around 10:30 p.m. Monday, asleep in her crib, Kansas City, Missouri, police said. Police were called to the home at about 4 a.m. Tuesday.

"It appears the suspect entered/exited through a bedroom window," authorities said in a statement. "Evidence at the scene leads police to believe the child has been abducted."
Jeremy Irwin told reporters he found Lisa missing when he returned home from work. "The front door was unlocked," he said Thursday. "Most of the lights were on in the house, and the window in front was open -- all very unusual."

Police have said the parents are not considered suspects in Lisa's disappearance. Police Capt. Steve Young on Wednesday told reporters the family has been cooperative from the beginning of the investigation, but "everything is still on the table. We haven't ruled anything out."

He said Wednesday investigators "really haven't developed any good, hard information that we can go forward with." Nearly 50 tips have been received through a tip hotline, he said, but not all of them have been pursued, as some of them have been vague -- a person calling to report a child seat seen in a car, for instance.

"I know everybody's hearts are in the right place, but that's not anything we can do anything with," Young said.

Police have conducted more than 300 "knock-and-talks" and searches of residences in the area, and more than 300 officers were searching for Lisa. There have been three searches of a wooded area near the family's home, he said.

"I promise you, if there's anything we think we can be doing, we've probably done it two or three times already," Young said.
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« Reply #97 on: October 06, 2011, 01:28:16 PM »

Parents of missing baby: 'We'll do anything to get her' ..
Interview and Article..

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The parents are not currently suspects, according to the police. Irwin has provided federal authorities with the names of nine individuals he believes could have had some sort of connection to his daughter’s abduction. Police dogs have searched the family’s home, and federal investigators wearing sterile suits to avoid disturbing the crime scene removed several bags of evidence from the house on Wednesday.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44798732/ns/today-today_people/t/parents-missing-baby-well-do-anything-get-her/#.To3guxSIk8k
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« Reply #98 on: October 06, 2011, 01:45:05 PM »

Article and Video..
Eyes for LiesSM

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Many of you have likely seen the story of missing baby Lisa Irwin from Missouri. She is 10-months old.  The story being told to the press is that her father, Jeremy, discovered her missing from her bed at 4:00 a.m. this past Tuesday in the early morning after he came home from his work shift. He woke up his wife and they called police. At some point, they discovered an open window that was tampered with.

The couple claims that whoever abducted their daughter also stole three cell phones from the house from the kitchen counter.  I find this perplexing.  If the father goes to work, doesn't he carry his cell phone with him?  Or does he leave it home?  I would be curious why he wouldn't  have it with him at work.  Is there a logical reason for it?

In watching this video, the mother, Deborah, is displaying true sadness, which can support the truth or deception--so it has no other meaning than to tell us she is truly sad.  The father, however, shows no sadness, no oblique eyebrows--no emotions whatsoever.  He is stoic. It's notable.

In the very beginning of the interview Jeremy says, "...obviously all very unusual and I started checking on the kids.  Checked on the boys first, and then we checked on her and that's when we realized she was gone."

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http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2011/10/lisa-irwin-missing-hotspots.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+EyesForLies+%28Eyes+for+Lies+Blog%29
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« Reply #99 on: October 06, 2011, 01:50:11 PM »

Does anyone remember hearing or reading something in regards to "Dad/Jeremy" (I think it was yesterday) saying he wouldn't be making any comments to the media until the "Mom/Debbie" returned from being interviewed by LE? I know I saw that somewhere yesterday when some of the media was showing an image of Dad/Jeremy sitting on steps in front of the house. I thought that was odd. I would be talking to anyone who wanted to talk to me if it meant finding my daughter. Every minute is critical. Then on the NBC local page, the Grandparents stated in an article that they wouldn't be speaking till "Dad/Jeremy" gave them the green light to speak. Again, odd and sounds like Dad is very controlling. Also during the statement the parents made today, the Mom/Debbie breaks down and makes a plea and "Jeremy" doesn't even put his arm around her and barely looked at her. He sort of looked miffed that she spoke out. I could be way off on that but it did appear odd to me. Mom did seem grief stricken, Dad.....hard to tell. Any thoughts?

below is a snip about not speaking until Jeremy gave the okay
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Investigators continue intensive search for Lisa Irwin in and around her home

Posted: 10/05/2011
Last Updated: 3 hours and 21 minutes ago

    By: Aaron Heintzelman


Lisa's grandparents and other family members have spoken off-camera, but have declined to speak on-camera until given a green light by Lisa's father.

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http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/police-ruling-nothing-out-in-search-for-lisa-irwin


As I recall, he didn't want to say anything until the police were done questioning her because he didn't want to jeopardize the investigation.  Unfortunately, I heard that in a local TV report and I cannot find an article to back it up.  There isn't much information here and what little there is the local press can't seem to agree about the details...for example, 1 outlet claims the 2 older boys are both her's and another has said 1 boy was his and 1 was her's, while another calls them a blended family.  The whole situation is strange and hinky.  Around here a missing baby is usually found very quickly. 
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