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« Reply #720 on: October 16, 2011, 08:06:42 PM »

What can Debbie be charged with?

 
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« Reply #721 on: October 16, 2011, 08:07:50 PM »

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My interview w #BabyLisa's parents to air tomorrow @TodayShow. And, why she won't let her kids be re-intervu'ed by KCPD.
37 minutes ago  http://twitter.com/#!/peteralexander

The "I was drunk " comment could be an attempt to show why she wouldn't have woke up, it could be true, but with so much scrutiny I could see someone saying this even if they weren't. WRT the kids not being interviewed, I don't get it at all......they have specialist that are trained in how to interview kids and not add to the trauma, but possibly glean some truths (which is IMO why she doesn't let them interview the kids), more and more she is looking even worse and I honestly thought that was impossible.

On JVM tonight I heard Tim Miller mention this case sounded so much like HaLeigh Cummings which I have stated to, one child in bed with the mom, lights on and door open and "that's all I know"....also, IIRC she couldn't find her cell phone or there was some confusion about either her or Ron's cell phone too. BUT, what is a huge red flag is the amount of time that elapsed before they called 911.

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She drank more than wine, IMO. Was "mary Jane' used, on top of the wine?  J.I. is odd, maybe it his nature.



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« Reply #722 on: October 16, 2011, 08:15:21 PM »

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My interview w #BabyLisa's parents to air tomorrow @TodayShow. And, why she won't let her kids be re-intervu'ed by KCPD.
37 minutes ago  http://twitter.com/#!/peteralexander

The "I was drunk " comment could be an attempt to show why she wouldn't have woke up, it could be true, but with so much scrutiny I could see someone saying this even if they weren't. WRT the kids not being interviewed, I don't get it at all......they have specialist that are trained in how to interview kids and not add to the trauma, but possibly glean some truths (which is IMO why she doesn't let them interview the kids), more and more she is looking even worse and I honestly thought that was impossible.

On JVM tonight I heard Tim Miller mention this case sounded so much like HaLeigh Cummings which I have stated to, one child in bed with the mom, lights on and door open and "that's all I know"....also, IIRC she couldn't find her cell phone or there was some confusion about either her or Ron's cell phone too. BUT, what is a huge red flag is the amount of time that elapsed before they called 911.

Hi again, Monkey's

She drank more than wine, IMO. Was "mary Jane' used, on top of the wine?  J.I. is odd, maybe it his nature.





And she did all that with a sick baby???? I do think he's odd by nature, but IMO their is something else there, I do think he has some knowledge and has been caught in many inconsistencies already...Damn, I am sick to death of parents not giving a crap about their kids, killing them, being negligent etc., when so many would devote every minute of every day for a precious child.....now her uncle IIRC is posting about how to help parents who are "overwhelmed"? WTH, that makes me think they felt Lisa was too much to handle and a burden, and I am sure he prolly didn't mean it to sound that way but it sure came across odd.
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« Reply #723 on: October 16, 2011, 08:26:08 PM »

'Strange Twists and Turns' in Search for Lisa Irwin
Published on Oct 16, 2011 by FoxNewsChannel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX8i_KhRysA
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« Reply #724 on: October 16, 2011, 08:26:50 PM »


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Maybe it was JI, and not her!  Perhaps, she is taking the rap, and trying to get them both off the hook.

We do not know, when JI was at verk:)

Photo's of their home on JP, four bedrooms and a computer room, house sounded cute.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1380&start=700 (GEL)
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« Reply #725 on: October 16, 2011, 08:35:59 PM »


Island Monkey,

Maybe it was JI, and not her!  Perhaps, she is taking the rap, and trying to get them both off the hook.

We do not know, when JI was at verk:)

Photo's of their home on JP, four bedrooms and a computer room, house sounded cute.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1380&start=700 (GEL)


Could very well be, one or the other is covering for the one....and just like Ron C, if this was an accident and mom was drunk/high I can see hiding the body and screeming kidnapped so as not to lose custody of the other 2 kids Sad
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« Reply #726 on: October 16, 2011, 08:39:43 PM »

A few thoughts I've been having;

I cannot remember seeing an almost one year old without any hair. It may be I just have not noticed this before. This caused me to wonder if perhaps she had been ill. Chemo can cause hair loss. Probably just typical of some baby's, though.

Time between 10:30 pm and 2:30 am, then from 2:30 am to 3:30 or 4:00 am.

DB had no automobile and no driver's license. IF DB involved in disappearance, that involvement stopped at the Irwin home because DB had no way to go anywhere else. All actions would be fairly close their residence.

DB is the aggressor in that household.

Anyone else thinking along these lines?

What a sad thought.

For what it's worth, my babies are baldies for well beyond the first year of life. My older daughter didn't have any hair until a year-and-a-half or so, when there was finally just the tiniest amount to clip a bow in. My younger daughter is 6 months old and totally bald, with no sign of her hair filling in anytime soon. Some children are three years old before they really start getting any hair.

Sorry, but in my experience there's really nothing suspicious about bald babies!
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« Reply #727 on: October 16, 2011, 08:42:37 PM »

Who is the unidentified man captured on surveilance video with Debbie Bradley while purchasing wine just hours prior to the alleged kidnapping of of Lisa?

Debbie concedes in an upcoming interiew that she was drunk the night her baby went missing.  Why does investigators claim the video of the mystery man is not relevant?  I think this is huge.  Maybe the guy is the missing link to the chain of event encompassing that fateful night.

Janet

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Lisa Irwin Day 10 - What You May Have Missed
10:10 a.m. CDT, October 13, 2011


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Grocery Store Surveillance Video

Earlier this week grocery store surveillance video of Lisaís mother, Deborah Bradley, was released, showing her with an unidentified man buying boxed wine, paper plates and napkins the afternoon prior to Lisa being reported missing. However, police said the surveillance video will not likely lead to a resolution in the case.

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http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-lisa-irwin-lisa-irwin-day-10-what-you-may-have-missed-20111013,0,5815096.story
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« Reply #728 on: October 16, 2011, 08:47:55 PM »

Who is the unidentified man captured on surveilance video with Debbie Bradley while purchasing wine just hours prior to the alleged kidnapping of of Lisa?

Debbie concedes in an upcoming interiew that she was drunk the night her baby went missing.  Why does investigators claim the video of the mystery man is not relevant?  I think this is huge.  Maybe the guy is the missing link to the chain of event encompassing that fateful night.

Janet

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Lisa Irwin Day 10 - What You May Have Missed
10:10 a.m. CDT, October 13, 2011


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Grocery Store Surveillance Video

Earlier this week grocery store surveillance video of Lisaís mother, Deborah Bradley, was released, showing her with an unidentified man buying boxed wine, paper plates and napkins the afternoon prior to Lisa being reported missing. However, police said the surveillance video will not likely lead to a resolution in the case.

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http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-lisa-irwin-lisa-irwin-day-10-what-you-may-have-missed-20111013,0,5815096.story


Her brother, and underage IIRC..........
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« Reply #729 on: October 16, 2011, 08:55:48 PM »

Who is the unidentified man captured on surveilance video with Debbie Bradley while purchasing wine just hours prior to the alleged kidnapping of of Lisa?

Debbie concedes in an upcoming interiew that she was drunk the night her baby went missing.  Why does investigators claim the video of the mystery man is not relevant?  I think this is huge.  Maybe the guy is the missing link to the chain of event encompassing that fateful night.

Janet

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Lisa Irwin Day 10 - What You May Have Missed
10:10 a.m. CDT, October 13, 2011


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Grocery Store Surveillance Video

Earlier this week grocery store surveillance video of Lisaís mother, Deborah Bradley, was released, showing her with an unidentified man buying boxed wine, paper plates and napkins the afternoon prior to Lisa being reported missing. However, police said the surveillance video will not likely lead to a resolution in the case.

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http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-lisa-irwin-lisa-irwin-day-10-what-you-may-have-missed-20111013,0,5815096.story


Her brother, and underage IIRC..........

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I have been searching.  I cannot not find an article that has identified the person with Debbie in the video.

Debbie concedes in this upcoming interview that she was drunk when her daughter allegedly went missing.  Did she have a drinking partner with a vehicle?  Is this why baby Lisa's body has not been located.

Janet


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« Reply #730 on: October 16, 2011, 08:58:17 PM »

Who is the unidentified man captured on surveilance video with Debbie Bradley while purchasing wine just hours prior to the alleged kidnapping of of Lisa?

Debbie concedes in an upcoming interiew that she was drunk the night her baby went missing.  Why does investigators claim the video of the mystery man is not relevant?  I think this is huge.  Maybe the guy is the missing link to the chain of event encompassing that fateful night.

Janet

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Lisa Irwin Day 10 - What You May Have Missed
10:10 a.m. CDT, October 13, 2011


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Grocery Store Surveillance Video

Earlier this week grocery store surveillance video of Lisaís mother, Deborah Bradley, was released, showing her with an unidentified man buying boxed wine, paper plates and napkins the afternoon prior to Lisa being reported missing. However, police said the surveillance video will not likely lead to a resolution in the case.

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http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-lisa-irwin-lisa-irwin-day-10-what-you-may-have-missed-20111013,0,5815096.story


Her brother, and underage IIRC..........

islandmonkey

I have been searching.  I cannot not find an article that has identified the person with Debbie in the video.

Debbie concedes in this upcoming interview that she was drunk when her daughter allegedly went missing.  Did she have a drinking partner with a vehicle?  Is this why baby Lisa's body has not been located.

Janet



I will see if I can find it, no clue about drinking partner in the car but remember she allegedly has no DL from a DUI is what I read, I do think it's possible she was drunk but on the other hand I can see it as her defense, I was drunk so I can't be held responsible.....sorry, but I am a cynic!
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« Reply #731 on: October 16, 2011, 09:05:54 PM »


Island Monkey,

Maybe it was JI, and not her!  Perhaps, she is taking the rap, and trying to get them both off the hook.

We do not know, when JI was at verk:)

Photo's of their home on JP, four bedrooms and a computer room, house sounded cute.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1380&start=700 (GEL)


Could very well be, one or the other is covering for the one....and just like Ron C, if this was an accident and mom was drunk/high I can see hiding the body and screeming kidnapped so as not to lose custody of the other 2 kids Sad
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« Reply #732 on: October 16, 2011, 09:06:36 PM »

Islandmonkey

I do not recognize this source but the info does reflect what you stated.  Thanks.

Nevertheless ... I am somewhat suspicious.

Janet

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Man in tapes identified as baby Lisa's uncle
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A man seen in a surveillance tape with the mother of missing baby Lisa Irwin has been identified as the babyís uncle.

Deborah Bradley and her brother were shopping for wine for a family event in Kansas City, MO. Her daughter, Lisa, disappeared hours after the Oct. 3 shopping trip.

Police have interviewed the brother and determined he has no involvement in the 10-month-oldís disappearance.

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http://www.tothecenter.com/index.php?readmore=17748


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« Reply #733 on: October 16, 2011, 09:28:25 PM »

 

The drunk issue could be a defense:

http://newsdigest24.blogspot.com/2011/02/drunk-mother-passes-out-kills-her-baby.ht

 http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Mother-accused-of-being-passed-out-drunk-when-baby-suffocated-83059812.html.
This one was in St. Louis...

I bet I could find others too....
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« Reply #734 on: October 16, 2011, 09:28:37 PM »

I was really hoping to check in here tonight with news that baby Lisa was found.  Instead I once again see parents not acting like parents.  Am I one of the few mother bears still out there?
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« Reply #735 on: October 16, 2011, 09:34:08 PM »

I was really hoping to check in here tonight with news that baby Lisa was found.  Instead I once again see parents not acting like parents.  Am I one of the few mother bears still out there?

I have become a gramma bear now..but I was and still am a mother bear too..even with the grown kids
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« Reply #736 on: October 16, 2011, 10:48:43 PM »

What can Debbie be charged with?

 

Good question.  Well, drinking wine out of a box is only a social crime so she can't be charged with that.  But seriously, perhaps child endangerment?  Does anyone know if there are laws regarding drunkenness while with children?  I know I've heard of stories where police have found an adult party in progress and had child services temporarily take the children because all the adults were under the influence.  But to charge someone with child neglect/endangerment while intoxicated, after the fact?  I don't know.
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« Reply #737 on: October 17, 2011, 12:07:08 AM »

Found the SOR link:

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=5447299590510509259

Sara E is the poster that mentions she knew her while at Ft. Bragg

https://www.facebook.com/#!/find.lisa?sk=wall

link for the FB page where a woman named Christy owns up to leaving dirty diapers since the house was to be demolished.

I am the first to admit when I am wrong ...and boy was I ever wrong about DB.  After Sara E's stories and then her friend's story about the fake miscarriages, I feel like a fool for crying over this woman and her fake pain.  Now I can see (like many of you already saw) that the "mistakes and omissions" in her stories were not because she was a distraught Mother, but instead because she was a heartless liar who couldn't keep her stories straight.
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« Reply #738 on: October 17, 2011, 12:19:05 AM »

Found the SOR link:

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=5447299590510509259

Sara E is the poster that mentions she knew her while at Ft. Bragg

https://www.facebook.com/#!/find.lisa?sk=wall

link for the FB page where a woman named Christy owns up to leaving dirty diapers since the house was to be demolished.

I am the first to admit when I am wrong ...and boy was I ever wrong about DB.  After Sara E's stories and then her friend's story about the fake miscarriages, I feel like a fool for crying over this woman and her fake pain.  Now I can see (like many of you already saw) that the "mistakes and omissions" in her stories were not because she was a distraught Mother, but instead because she was a heartless liar who couldn't keep her stories straight.


dont feel bad I was on the fence re cindy and george BUT after the trial I began to realize what bloodsukers they are .. Caylee didnt come first and I see it here too with DB already getting a paid interview afriad to go to jail.not doing everything she can to find the baby.
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« Reply #739 on: October 17, 2011, 01:57:39 AM »


So she might be admitting to being drunk - only now - knowing the Grand Jury is ready to arrest (presumably) -and she's doing this now to (possibly) build a DEFENSE! 

Wow, just when I thought my opinion of this mother couldn't get any worse.  I mean I've tried, oh boy have I tried to stand behind Deborah, but, even the thought of this makes me want to wretch.

Poor little baby!

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