Lisa Irwin #2 10/11/11 - 10/17/11

[exlurker]

Found the SOR link:

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=5447299590510509259

Sara E is the poster that mentions she knew her while at Ft. Bragg

https://www.facebook.com/#!/find.lisa?sk=wall

link for the FB page where a woman named Christy owns up to leaving dirty diapers since the house was to be demolished.

Sara E has very interesting information on Deb!!

[islandmonkey]

I don't know if it's bad reporting or not but so many inconsistencies:

1-) "Then I started checking on the kids. I checked on the boys first, and then we checked on her, that's when we realized she was gone."


2-) I remember an interview I heard DB say that when jeremy woke her up, he asked her where was Lisa and she said, "In her crib. What are you talking about."


3-) I also remember and maybe I am wrong about what I heard, but I thought she stated she put Lisa to bed at 10:30

4-) Last interview I heard she stated she put her to bed at 7:30 and then went to drink with the neigbor on the stoop.

5-) What time was 911 really called?

Lisa Irwin was last seen around 10:30 p.m. Monday when her mother put her to bed. Her father, an electrician, discovered Lisa missing when he got home around 3:30 a.m. Tuesday from a late-night shift at work, police said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44784274.../#.TpmrMHJx68A

Local media states around 4:00 am

Timeline from the local media says 4:00 according to police, slide 2:

http://www.kmbc.com/slideshow/news/29394864/detail.html


6-) Jeremy Irwin got home @ 3:30, but 911 was not called until 4:04.

He said "They Could not call 911 because Someone Took out Cell Phones".

But he had his work phone in his pocket.


7-) I also heard it was closer to 4:15 when 911 was called (banging my head in the wall over and over)

Neighbors stated they had no clue anything was amiss until LE started knocking on their doors

9-) Jeremy when speaking to Judge J IIRC stated he went to the neighbors doors and knocked on them

[seahorse]

Muffy,

Thank-you for the search engine.
http://radaris.com/p/Anthony/Netz/MO/

We should just post our addresses on our foreheads

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12179.20

YW.  We think alike in some ways seahorse.  I've considered putting a post it note on my forehead to remind me of things, but then I would have to write it backwards so I could read it properly when I look in the mirror.   

It's hard to believe we still don't know what happened to Lisa and that she's still missing.    

Good afternoon Monkey's,

Muffy,

LE must know something (IMO) he ruled out Jersey and was not shook-up about the diapers.
I wished we knew what to Lisa, too.


http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58437&page=35
Post 1037, "smash Badger"  Has a curious post. 

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html
October 16, 2011
Soiled Diapers, Backpack Found Near Baby Lisa's Home

[Jazzy]

I am sort of wondering if they sold Lisa but the one thing I noticed with the family they do not say her name its "her" or "she" not Lisa
or baby Lisa.
this means they are seperating themselves from her, if Im not mistaking. Or that is the way I take it.

The diapers and wipes in an abandon house at this time being discovered is a little weird, sounds more like a set up scene.

This case is starting to remind me of several cases

Still praying for baby Lisa

[klaasend]

Muffy,

Thank-you for the search engine.
http://radaris.com/p/Anthony/Netz/MO/

We should just post our addresses on our foreheads

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12179.20

YW.  We think alike in some ways seahorse.  I've considered putting a post it note on my forehead to remind me of things, but then I would have to write it backwards so I could read it properly when I look in the mirror.  

It's hard to believe we still don't know what happened to Lisa and that she's still missing.    

Good afternoon Monkey's,

Muffy,

LE must know something (IMO) he ruled out Jersey and was not shook-up about the diapers.
I wished we knew what to Lisa, too.


http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58437&page=35
Post 1037, "smash Badger"  Has a curious post.  

Regarding Smash Badger's post

This

Originally Posted by Treelea View Post
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/201...l?m=1#comments

Sara E. said...
ALSO, I had written to Shirley last night to ask her what her thoughts were on us contacting the tip line, and this morning this was the response I received from her. (her last name is redacted) which brings to mind another issue that I had completely forgotten. The miscarriages she was "always" having. I recall that she would at least have one every couple of months, usually during the time of the feud, where I couldn't have cared less.

Shirley A.

"I wrote to the FBI.... I told them how she stole from all of our neighbors including you, how she always said she had miscarriages, I also informed them of the records FORT BRAGG CID has on her... I dont know if you remember her house getting raided from them? And not to mention Sean .. that would be the best thing for them to do is talk to Sean, I wrote them the night I sent you the link on her! I tried to find a way to get a hold of KS PD but I dont know how!!?? I would though if I could find a way!!!! I still can't believe all of this!"

Then this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_Bad

[seahorse]

I am sort of wondering if they sold Lisa but the one thing I noticed with the family they do not say her name its "her" or "she" not Lisa
or baby Lisa.
this means they are seperating themselves from her, if Im not mistaking. Or that is the way I take it.

The diapers and wipes in an abandon house at this time being discovered is a little weird, sounds more like a set up scene.

This case is starting to remind me of several cases

Still praying for baby Lisa

Jazzy

The Kansas City, Grand Jury, is scheculed to meet this Tuesday, to review the case.  I have a horrible feeling about this case,
I think it the mom, who gives me an uneasy feeling. 

[islandmonkey]

Johnny Chiaravallotti posted to Baby Lisa Irwin Updates

"Tragedys like this are way too common in our world. Why doesnt everyone focus on helping young mothers learn how to cope with the enormous responsibilities of raising children ? Stop tinkering around with all this other crap and focus on the root of problems like this and try to help these young mothers. Focus on ways to help prevent these things from happening. Do you know a young mother ? Reach out and help them. We cbnt change what already happened but we can try to stop these things from happening. Readjust your focus please and help somebody. We are the family of this child and we all made mistakes here."

http://www.chathousenews.com/2011/10...ily-makes.html


WHAT????? I must still have a fever since I can't understand why he's talking about the enormous responsibilities of parenting when a child is missing.

[iluvmua]

I think It's Mom too.

Since she was the last one to see Little Lisa.

I will def. be watching their interview with Dan Abrams on Good Morning America tomorrow.

[trimmonthelake]

mitchweber Mitch Weber http://twitter.com/#!/mitchweber
Law enforcement officials are leaving the area searched today in the case of missing baby #LisaIrwin. pic.twitter.com/HZehjloa[url][url]
59 seconds ago

[trimmonthelake]

mitchweber Mitch Weber
The MO National Guard soldiers though are still searching the wooded area about 0.3 miles from the Irwin home where #LisaIrwin disappeared.
1 minute ago http://twitter.com/#!/mitchweber

[StarMonkey]

I think It's Mom too.

Since she was the last one to see Little Lisa.

I will def. be watching their interview with Dan Abrams on Good Morning America tomorrow.

danielabrams Dan Abrams
Just finished intense interview with parents of missing baby Lisa. Mom fears she could be arrested. I'll have it @gma tomorrow
https://twitter.com/#!/danielabrams

Mom is STILL IN fear she will be arrested! 

[Gypsy DD]

mitchweber Mitch Weber
The MO National Guard soldiers though are still searching the wooded area about 0.3 miles from the Irwin home where #LisaIrwin disappeared.
1 minute ago http://twitter.com/#!/mitchweber

If it is about a third of a mile away they are still intently searching..and they searched this area before IIRC, then I say they are suspecting Mom of doing this.

Woman tend to dispose of bodies very close to the kill site..vs men don't mind loading up a body and traveling for hundreds of miles if time allows.  But women always seem to dispose of bodies, when they even infact move them at all, very close to the crime scene..whicih in this case appears more and more likely to be their home.

[islandmonkey]

mitchweber Mitch Weber
The MO National Guard soldiers though are still searching the wooded area about 0.3 miles from the Irwin home where #LisaIrwin disappeared.
1 minute ago http://twitter.com/#!/mitchweber

If it is about a third of a mile away they are still intently searching..and they searched this area before IIRC, then I say they are suspecting Mom of doing this.

Woman tend to dispose of bodies very close to the kill site..vs men don't mind loading up a body and traveling for hundreds of miles if time allows.  But women always seem to dispose of bodies, when they even infact move them at all, very close to the crime scene..whicih in this case appears more and more likely to be their home.

ITA and in water for some reason....

Interesting mom tells DA that she fears she will be arrested....I still think both of them are odd, but that's JMO.

[seahorse]

I think It's Mom too.

Since she was the last one to see Little Lisa.

I will def. be watching their interview with Dan Abrams on Good Morning America tomorrow.

I will watch tommorrow, too, I like Dan Abrams.

If you like Peter Hyatt, his radio show is on at 5:00 pm (today) in less than an hour.  His chat room is open if you want to see
what others are saying. 

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peter-hyatt/2011/10/16/the-peter-hyatt-show

ME:  First all God bless little Lisa, where ever she is...DB and JI could afford a mothers helper or babysitter at night to take the
load off of Mom.  A retired woman would probably use a couple dollars, for babsitting.  Maybe if mom bought ice cream instead of wine,  this would not be in the news.

P.S. I love wine
 

[seahorse]

mitchweber Mitch Weber
The parents of #LisaIrwin now travel by a private car service. This is day 13 in the search for the missing 11mo old pic.twitter.com/W7tS4LYl
16 minutes ago http://twitter.com/#!/mitchweber

???????? Where, why and what am I missing?

Thank-you for your posts IM, and everyone else for the interesting comments I read.


IDK if it is the camera or not,  Jeremy is a distance behind Deborah, he is not comforting her.

[StarMonkey]

mitchweber Mitch Weber
The MO National Guard soldiers though are still searching the wooded area about 0.3 miles from the Irwin home where #LisaIrwin disappeared.
1 minute ago http://twitter.com/#!/mitchweber

If it is about a third of a mile away they are still intently searching..and they searched this area before IIRC, then I say they are suspecting Mom of doing this.

Woman tend to dispose of bodies very close to the kill site..vs men don't mind loading up a body and traveling for hundreds of miles if time allows.  But women always seem to dispose of bodies, when they even infact move them at all, very close to the crime scene..whicih in this case appears more and more likely to be their home.

unless dad helped.he lied about the phone in his pocket and knocking on neighbors doors.why wait to call LE 34 min after you get home and I see its probably 45 min now..

[trimmonthelake]

mitchweber Mitch Weber
The search by the MO National Guard soldiers has officially ended. No word if they discovered any clues in the disappearance of #LisaIrwin
33 seconds ago  http://twitter.com/#!/mitchweber

[seahorse]

Hi Monkey's,
I wanted touch upon BAH (basic allowance for housing).  I am curious if LB was recieving $. IMO.

Anonymous said...
Sara E.
Sat Oct 15, 10:49:00 PM EDT
What of her husband? Why do you think they are still legally married?

I have my own hunch. I know how the military works, benefits and what not. I believe she stays married to him for the BAH. If he is deployed she would automatically get that. The military would advise him to give her at least that as long as they are legally married, even if living apart.  ::snipping2::
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=5447299590510509259

Military Housing Allowance (BAH)

Information and charts about Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH) that the military pays when members are authorized to reside off base at government expense.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/housingallowance/Military_Housing_Allowance_BAH_.htm

[trimmonthelake]

mitchweber Mitch Weber http://twitter.com/#!/mitchweber
@
@Qaudrille he does make himself available quite a bit to the media. Too bad the parents are only talking to ABC's GMA.
11 minutes ago