Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11 - 10/21/11

[KittyMom]

Well, I gave the mom the benefit of the doubt. Now there's no doubt she is responsible. By getting sh**-faced while caring for a 10 month old -- she is responsible for whatever happened.  SAD. I'd like to know what the he** she was thinking. I'm sick over this.

Not only a 10 month old, but a SICK 10 month old.  When mine were that small and sick, they slept with me so that I could keep a constant check on them during the night. 

I swear we need mandatory parenting classes before babies are allowed to leave a hospital.

[goodnmad]

If she was drunk enough to black out, then the wine (wine + pills?) has everything to do with it -- whether a stranger broke in or an accident occurred -- regardless she was DRUNK while caring for a helpless baby. She should have been sober and maybe whatever happened could have been prevented. Yeah, I'm damn tired and caring for my 4-month-old baby girl is stressful at times, but I do not drink or do drugs PERIOD. I am caring for a baby -- there is no room for that kind of indulgence.

[KittyMom]

http://www.kansas.com/2011/10/18/2066568/missing-babys-mother-offers-changing.html
Missing baby's mother offers changing stories

The "Today" show also reported that Bradley is now saying she last saw Lisa around 6:40 p.m. when she put the baby to bed on Oct. 3. Police have said that Bradley told them she put Lisa to bed at 10:30 p.m.

Police last sat down for an interview with the parents on Oct. 6. That same day — two days after Lisa vanished — Bradley refused additional police questioning or contact unless it went through a lawyer, sources close to the investigation told The Star. The father has insisted he be interviewed with Bradley present, the sources said.

 

In the days following, police have had trouble reaching the parents to bounce tips off them or talk to them informally. In one instance, the parents said they could not talk to police because they had already scheduled a television interview with a national outlet, sources said.

Although police have had brief contacts with the parents in recent days, detectives have been unable to ask Bradley about inconsistencies in the stories she has told the national media outlets.

 

And that right there my monkey friends, says it all!

[trimmonthelake]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/44942594#44942594
Baby Lisa’s mom says she may have blacked out

[trimmonthelake]

If she was drunk enough to black out, then the wine (wine + pills?) has everything to do with it -- whether a stranger broke in or an accident occurred -- regardless she was DRUNK while caring for a helpless baby. She should have been sober and maybe whatever happened could have been prevented. Yeah, I'm damn tired and caring for my 4-month-old baby girl is stressful at times, but I do not drink or do drugs PERIOD. I am caring for a baby -- there is no room for that kind of indulgence.

I agree 100%. 

[goodnmad]

Agree KittyMom. Shows their priorities. 

[goodnmad]

hi Trimm 


So ... who was mom getting tanked with? Her brother? Herself?

[trimmonthelake]

I just can not stomach Tacopina.... 

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/10/18/lisa-irwin-case-version-4-0-1-a-lawyer-still-no-baby/
Lisa Irwin case: Version 4.0.1, a lawyer, still no baby
Posted on October 18, 2011 by Valhall

[pharlap]

I wonder when DB when bat sh** crazy as LE was searching an area last week, "flailing her arms and speeding off", was because her daughter was in that area and she knew she was busted......

 

I've been reading a long time, Monkeys, but this is my first actual post.  My husband was a police investigator for many years and holds a phD in Criminal Justice and I am dispatcher.  I saw this comment and it piqued my interest.  I remember hubby took a class from Dr. Henry Lee on reading body language years ago.  I also remember him telling me about doing CSI, drug raids and car searches where they would be watching the suspect and as they got "warmer" to wherever the "goodies" were hidden, you could see the person get nervous.  He actually had one one time that started freaking and cussing as they got close to what they were looking for and then would relax if they'd move away.  I've seen this on tapes brought in to dispatch by other officers and in training myself.  He and I both would love to see video of DB's reaction if it's out there.  I haven't been able to find it.  My DH has said this was fishy from the moment he laid eyes on DB and JI.

Tulips, I found this from the first thread that Trimm and Itaryl had brought over. I hope it helps. This was right before (if I remember right) that LE came out and said the parents were not cooperating anymore and LE were dismantling the command center. There was an interview (which I will keep looking for) where Deborah answers questions about why she was upset that LE was searching a particular area. It may have been on the first Judge Jenine (sp?) interview. I will keep looking.
 Here is one of the links regarding the above story (video at link also):

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/06/parents-of-missing-missouri-baby-lisa-irwin-rush-to-police-command-center-is-there-a-new-lead-in-the-case/

Tks all for your input and this video.
I wanted to give the mom the benefit of doubt but doesn't look good at this point.
Why would the parents get mad at the police, unless like tulip stated look at reactions.
Hey they are searching, which doesn't seen like the parents are. 
The baby is not a live I fear....

[trimmonthelake]

PeterAlexander Peter Alexander
#BabyLisa's mom tells @peoplemag she may have blacked out nite of disappearance. Could that explain inconsistencies?
20 minutes ago http://twitter.com/#!/KCTVPhotog_Rob

[pharlap]

::snipping2::

Alchy mom wants to party so she forces her little girl down to sleep at an extremely early hour.

I just had a disturbing thought:  What if mom purposely gave the baby "extra" cold medicine so that she could party all night?  Or, what if she drunkenly over-medicated the baby?  Horrible scenarios, I know, but anything is possible at this point.

You just might be right.....

[goodnmad]

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/10/18/lisa-irwin-case-version-4-0-1-a-lawyer-still-no-baby/
Lisa Irwin case: Version 4.0.1, a lawyer, still no baby
Posted on October 18, 2011 by Valhall

Val says it best. 

[Gypsy DD]

Here is an interesting thought ...if LE really did tell DB that they have info on the cell pings, then they know where she was and where she wasn't. 

That would make sense Kitty Mom..but here's what I don't understand..if all three cell phones are not in service..1 broken, two turned off for non payment..why was she carrying a cell phone around that didn't work..and would it still ping if it had been turned off by the phone company?  Just so many inconsistencies here I don't know what to think...other Mom and Dad wouldn't need to embellish or change stories if the truth did not lead back to them

[Gypsy DD]

hi Trimm 


So ... who was mom getting tanked with? Her brother? Herself?

A neighbor supposedly on the porch....didn't the neighbor think it was odd on a school night this mother wasn't atleast checking on the boys to make sure they had their baths, teeth brushed, etc and in bed at a reasonable time if they had school the next morning?

I have a feeling that the jusband took care of the home front duties on a nightly basis..and she got drunk.  I think he went to work thinking she could handle it...and comes home to this tall tale of the baby disappeared out of her crib. 

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.kmbc.com/video/29516240/detail.html
Attorney: Baby Lisa Mom's Timeline Not Inconsistent
POSTED: 7:36 am CDT October 18, 2011
UPDATED: 7:51 am CDT October 18, 2011

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/video/29516240/detail.html#ixzz1b8iqPrK9

[trimmonthelake]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44943323/ns/today-today_people/#.Tp2AcrIg-T8
By Scott Stump
TODAY.com contributor
updated 2 hours 29 minutes ago
Grief over missing baby Lisa Irwin has caused inconsistencies in her mother’s story, according to a private investigator and prominent defense attorney who have been hired by the family.

They also maintain Deborah Bradley had nothing to do with the baby's disappearance.

“I do believe this baby is alive and in the hands of someone else,’’ private investigator Bill Stanton told TODAY’s Ann Curry Tuesday. “The fact that they haven’t found this child just reinforces my belief that the baby is alive. Who steals a puppy to do away with a puppy? You steal that puppy because you want it. I think it’s either trafficking or maybe an emotionally disturbed person that took this child.’’
 ::snipping2::

[Gypsy DD]

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/10/18/lisa-irwin-case-version-4-0-1-a-lawyer-still-no-baby/
Lisa Irwin case: Version 4.0.1, a lawyer, still no baby
Posted on October 18, 2011 by Valhall

Val says it best. 

Yes very good read..thanks Trimm.

[flutter1]

I wonder when DB when bat sh** crazy as LE was searching an area last week, "flailing her arms and speeding off", was because her daughter was in that area and she knew she was busted......

 

I've been reading a long time, Monkeys, but this is my first actual post.  My husband was a police investigator for many years and holds a phD in Criminal Justice and I am dispatcher.  I saw this comment and it piqued my interest.  I remember hubby took a class from Dr. Henry Lee on reading body language years ago.  I also remember him telling me about doing CSI, drug raids and car searches where they would be watching the suspect and as they got "warmer" to wherever the "goodies" were hidden, you could see the person get nervous.  He actually had one one time that started freaking and cussing as they got close to what they were looking for and then would relax if they'd move away.  I've seen this on tapes brought in to dispatch by other officers and in training myself.  He and I both would love to see video of DB's reaction if it's out there.  I haven't been able to find it.  My DH has said this was fishy from the moment he laid eyes on DB and JI.

Welcome to the cage and thanks for your insight!

[goodnmad]

Well ... how about being DRUNK caused inconsistencies in her story? I have been that drunk (long ago) and trust me, I had no concept of time.