Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11 - 10/21/11

[cartfly]

neighbor on right from tax record-I think the family is renting this house. I believe this is the neighbor "S" that was drinking with DB:

HELLER, MICHAEL T
3616 N LISTER AVE
KANSAS CITY MO 64117-

http://gisweb.claycogov.com/realEstate/realEstateDetail.jsp?parcelid=18115001400600

[cartfly]

neighbor on right from tax record-I think the family is renting this house. I believe this is the neighbor "S" that was drinking with DB:

HELLER, MICHAEL T
3616 N LISTER AVE
KANSAS CITY MO 64117-

http://gisweb.claycogov.com/realEstate/realEstateDetail.jsp?parcelid=18115001400600

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CORRECTION: should read "neighbor on the left"

[yuknomenot]

Deborah said “I don’t have a problem with me having adult time.”  But weren't her boys up watching a movie and Baby Lisa put in her crib when she and the neighbor started drinking?  She did say that the boys were watching a movie and she was sitting on the front stoop with her neighbor?  That doesn't mean her children were asleep for the night and safe and sound.

http://www.hollybaby.com/2011/10/17/lisa-irwin-missing-mom-drinking-wine/

It's been bothering me to know if anyone saw Lisa that night.  Did the boys?  Did the neighbor?  We only have Deborah's word (after she lied about it) that she put Lisa to bed at 6:30.  Could it be that she changed her story from 10:30 to 6:30 because no one else saw Lisa that night?  I'd sure love to hear what the two boys have to say about that night.

Too many inconsistencies.

I recall, early on, there were comments that Baby Lisa was watching a video with a neighbor girl and the boys.  I think it was even said it was a Fairy Tale.  That comment, too, raised my hackles because what 10-month-old baby is going to be so entertained by a movie that she couldn't possibly understand and that has the potential to be over an hour long. IMO, Lisa wasn't hanging out watching a movie.  It is probably one of the many reasons she doesn't want those boys talking to police.

[yuknomenot]

According to KMBC the search ended at 1:00am. No news of whether or not they found anything of value in their investigation, and if the search will continue today.

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"Investigators in white suits walked in and out of the home all day Wednesday carrying bags of evidence and what appeared to be X-ray equipment.  They were also seen carrying carpets out of the home."

The FBI brought in what appeared to be a rolled carpet. So, I wonder if that is the carpet KMBC talks about being carried out, or if they really took out Irwin's carpets out.

http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old

They could have brought in their own "flooring" to place collected evidence on to cut down on the chances of outside contaminants.

[Yoder1]

Hat Tip to Jess:
http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58621&page=8

http://www.facebook.com/people/Samantha-Rook-Brando/597638221  (BBM)

Thanks seahorse. It appears that they were renting the house. (the neighbors) If snooping around.....the neighbors hubby talks about a new home they are buying. Could the minor 4 year old be....M?

cartfly, Hymmm...I did not know if this is the correct neighbor, I have not connected an address,yet, have you? TIA
I will try to find a birth records..

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/searchpreview.aspx?searchtype=people-name&fn=James &ln= Brando&mn=&city=kansas city&state=MO

"Jess" (JP): Her hubby isn't a police officer; he does electronic surveillance for Sprint.

zip 64118  1520 NE 51 St.

[cartfly]

Deborah said “I don’t have a problem with me having adult time.”  But weren't her boys up watching a movie and Baby Lisa put in her crib when she and the neighbor started drinking?  She did say that the boys were watching a movie and she was sitting on the front stoop with her neighbor?  That doesn't mean her children were asleep for the night and safe and sound.

http://www.hollybaby.com/2011/10/17/lisa-irwin-missing-mom-drinking-wine/

It's been bothering me to know if anyone saw Lisa that night.  Did the boys?  Did the neighbor?  We only have Deborah's word (after she lied about it) that she put Lisa to bed at 6:30.  Could it be that she changed her story from 10:30 to 6:30 because no one else saw Lisa that night?  I'd sure love to hear what the two boys have to say about that night.

Too many inconsistencies.

I recall, early on, there were comments that Baby Lisa was watching a video with a neighbor girl and the boys.  I think it was even said it was a Fairy Tale.  That comment, too, raised my hackles because what 10-month-old baby is going to be so entertained by a movie that she couldn't possibly understand and that has the potential to be over an hour long. IMO, Lisa wasn't hanging out watching a movie.  It is probably one of the many reasons she doesn't want those boys talking to police.

Excellent point! And why would you allow this child who could possibly put something in her mouth in the care of a 4 year old, 6 year old and 8 year old......something smells. I would like DB to clear up whether Lisa was in that same room during the "movie" or was she put down to sleep at this time.

[Yoder1]

Hat Tip to Jess:
http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58621&page=8

http://www.facebook.com/people/Samantha-Rook-Brando/597638221  (BBM)

Thanks seahorse. It appears that they were renting the house. (the neighbors) If snooping around.....the neighbors hubby talks about a new home they are buying. Could the minor 4 year old be....M?

cartfly, Hymmm...I did not know if this is the correct neighbor, I have not connected an address,yet, have you? TIA
I will try to find a birth records..

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/searchpreview.aspx?searchtype=people-name&fn=James &ln= Brando&mn=&city=kansas city&state=MO

"Jess" (JP): Her hubby isn't a police officer; he does electronic surveillance for Sprint.

zip 64118  1520 NE 51 St.

of course not. I made a boo boo. Beg forgiveness.

[Yoder1]

neighbor on right from tax record-I think the family is renting this house. I believe this is the neighbor "S" that was drinking with DB:

HELLER, MICHAEL T
3616 N LISTER AVE
KANSAS CITY MO 64117-

http://gisweb.claycogov.com/realEstate/realEstateDetail.jsp?parcelid=18115001400600

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CORRECTION: should read "neighbor on the left"

Please clarify if viewing house from street or standing on porch of house and facing street.

[Anna]

It seems to me that "the baby just disappeared in the night" cases often are never solved.

Just my impression and maybe why they went with that kind of story.

[seahorse]

http://www.veromi.com/Search.aspx?sType=name&db=&fn=samantha&mn=marie&ln=rook&city=kansas+city&state=MO&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=

http://www.veromi.com/Search.aspx?sType=name&db=&fn=samantha&mn=m&ln=brando&city=kansas+city%2c+mo&state=MO&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=

http://www.veromi.com/Search.aspx?sType=name&db=&fn=beverly&mn=a&ln=rook&city=kansas+city%2c+mo&state=MO&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=

http://www.veromi.com/Search.aspx?sType=name&db=&fn=twibell&mn=&ln=rook&city=kansas+city%2c+mo&state=MO&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/bev-rook-twibell/b/a69/668

I do not know if the last link is a family member to SMRTB

[cartfly]

neighbor on right from tax record-I think the family is renting this house. I believe this is the neighbor "S" that was drinking with DB:

HELLER, MICHAEL T
3616 N LISTER AVE
KANSAS CITY MO 64117-

http://gisweb.claycogov.com/realEstate/realEstateDetail.jsp?parcelid=18115001400600

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CORRECTION: should read "neighbor on the left"

Please clarify if viewing house from street or standing on porch of house and facing street.

viewing house from the street

[seahorse]

Thank-you Monkeys.

This women speaks of how to track a scent...BUT (why on earth) would LE need the neighbor's stuff (two bags)

for a scent?  We do not know, exactly, who the neighbor is... CYA


http://trackingk9hounds.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/more-tracking-dogs-brought-in-to-search-neighbors-house-for-baby-lisas-scent/

(Fourth paragraph)
Also, acquiring an uncontaminated scent item is very important. Even scent items that might seem to be okay, if the parents scent is also on the item, then the dogs will not do a “good” track. This happened to me several times when owners bring out a crate where their pet has slept – there is too much additional scent available that my hounds are not able to track the one trail we are looking for but instead begin tracking the scent trail of the owner. So what will make a good scent item for Baby Lisa? Her bed sheets or pillow case, if she used a pillow, or socks unwashed, or her baby shoes. Not much more is going to be good enough to use. And then the scent items need to be handled properly. It is difficult to imagine that there is an abundance of available scent items from the baby’s house. I would use the child’s shoes, even old worn shoes that she has outgrown would work.

Also, I wonder is this the same house that  the father of Baby Lisa supposedly went to after the child was first discovered missing?

http://trackingk9hounds.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/more-tracking-dogs-brought-in-to-search-neighbors-house-for-baby-lisas-scent/

[seahorse]

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/17/fbi-searching-home-of-irwin-neighbor-for-clues-in-baby-lisa-case/

Trace Gallagher reports that the FBI went into the Irwins’ neighbor’s home and removed what looked like bags of evidence. This is the same neighbor that was drinking wine with Deborah Bradley, Lisa Irwin’s mother, on the night of the baby’s disappearance.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/17/fbi-searching-home-of-irwin-neighbor-for-clues-in-baby-lisa-case/

 


Good afternoon, Monkey's,

I am more of a squirrel than monkey:)  I just wanted to confirm it is (reportly) the drinky-poo neighbor.

[Yoder1]

neighbor on right from tax record-I think the family is renting this house. I believe this is the neighbor "S" that was drinking with DB:

HELLER, MICHAEL T
3616 N LISTER AVE
KANSAS CITY MO 64117-

http://gisweb.claycogov.com/realEstate/realEstateDetail.jsp?parcelid=18115001400600

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CORRECTION: should read "neighbor on the left"

Please clarify if viewing house from street or standing on porch of house and facing street.

viewing house from the street

Thanks, Cartfly. Much appreciated.

[pharlap]

I love Vinnie, but I think he's grabbing at straws with this one.

VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
A pentagram found in a tunnel behind Baby Lisa's house. #BabyLisa yfrog.com/gzv3asej
8 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/#!/VinniePolitan   

[StarMonkey]

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/searchpreview.aspx?utm_source=123people&utm_campaign=pubrec&utm_content=name&fn=samantha&ln=rook&state=MO

Is this the right person?  I hate being on the wrong path and worst I hate leading other down the wrong path.

Might explain the Marie/Samantha confusion.

  Perhaps

 SMR HS

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&hl=en&gl=us&as_q=samantha+marie+rook&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_scoring=r&btnG=Search&as_qdr=a&as_mindate=9%2F19%2F11&as_maxdate=10%2F19%2F11&as_drrb=a&as_nsrc=&as_nloc=&as_author=&as_occt=any&tbs=ar%3A1

what about the TEENAGE neighbor that was there according to news reports?

[trimmonthelake]

Kansas City police Capt. Steve Young said that the parents of 11-month-old Lisa Irwin are still not cooperating with investigators.
by Karen Yancey/Staff 2:38 PM

Read more: http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1bM1Hyash

[pharlap]

However I didn't know there was a tunnel behind there house...

[StarMonkey]

Hat Tip to Jess:
http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58621&page=8

http://www.facebook.com/people/Samantha-Rook-Brando/597638221  (BBM)

so the girl 27 yrs old? thats her picking her nose in her pic? the neighbor that drank w Deborah?

[StarMonkey]

theres a Samantha On Phillips FB maybe do we know for sure that the one posted here is correct?