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Topic: Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11 - 10/21/11 (Read 546034 times)
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Re: Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11
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Quote from: trimmonthelake on October 21, 2011, 02:59:29 PM
KCStar Kansas City Star
#Update: An FBI cadaver dog indicated a “hit” in Deborah Bradley’s bedroom, according to an affidavit. bit.ly/pR7dJZ #LisaIrwin
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Re: Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11
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FOX doing an update...
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Re: Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11
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Quote from: trimmonthelake on October 21, 2011, 03:00:45 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/21/3221138/cadaver-dog-has-hit-inside-house.html?r
Cadaver dog ‘hit’ inside house in Lisa Irwin case
By TONY RIZZO
The Kansas City Star
Posted on Fri, Oct. 21, 2011 01:54 PM
Read more:
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/21/3221138/cadaver-dog-has-hit-inside-house.html?r#ixzz1bRbKYhia
Wow! Guess she musta smushed her sleeping? If the baby was at the end of bed on the floor in db room!
Why don't they arrest her?
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Re: Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11
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Quote from: pharlap on October 21, 2011, 03:02:23 PM
The affidavit revealed:
"On October 17, 2011, an FBI cadaver dog was brought into the residence upon consent of Irwin and Bradley. The cadaver dog indicated a positive 'hit' for the scent of a deceased human in an area of the floor of Bradley's bedroom near the bed."
by Brian Foster - KMBC.com 1:57 PM
Read more:
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1bRbi3exJ
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old
Someone better start talking......this sucks..
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Re: Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11
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http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/21/3221138/cadaver-dog-has-hit-inside-house.html?r
::snipping2::
A Clay County judge approved the search warrant Tuesday afternoon, and police and federal investigators spent much of Wednesday searching the house and yard in the 3600 block of North Lister Avenue.
In their request for a search warrant, authorities said they were looking for DNA, fingerprints, cell phones and evidence of human decomposition.
Deborah Bradley has said that three cell phones were taken, along with her infant daughter, sometime late Oct. 3 or early Oct. 4.
Documents filed today in Clay County Circuit Court said police took blankets, toys and articles of clothing from the house on North Lister, as well as rolls of tape and a tape dispenser.
According to the affidavit, interviews with people involved in the case “revealed conflicting information for a clear direction” for the investigation.
Bradley, the affidavit said, told police she did not initially look for her baby behind the house because she was “afraid of what she might find.”
Read more:
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/21/3221138/cadaver-dog-has-hit-inside-house.html?r#ixzz1bRcWOGvt
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Re: Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11
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October 21, 2011, 03:06:49 PM »
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1bRDlPzWh
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BREAKING NEWS
On the floor in the room of the parents, cadeaver dogs got a "hit", near the bed on Mon. Brought out carpets in bags.
Reporting on FOX News right now.
Had access to house....now we know reason to the search warrant.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11
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October 21, 2011, 03:07:22 PM »
Quote from: pharlap on October 21, 2011, 03:02:23 PM
The affidavit revealed:
"On October 17, 2011, an FBI cadaver dog was brought into the residence upon consent of Irwin and Bradley. The cadaver dog indicated a positive 'hit' for the scent of a deceased human in an area of the floor of
Bradley's bedroom
near the bed."
by Brian Foster - KMBC.com 1:57 PM
Read more:
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1bRbi3exJ
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old
I still am wondering if this was accidential. Mom took baby into the bedroom to sleep with her because Lisa was fussing in the crib. Drunk/tired mom didn't want to keep getting up so just took Lisa to bed with her. And then when she fell asleep/passed out, she smothereed Lisa by accident and then panicked when she discovered what had happened.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11
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October 21, 2011, 03:08:00 PM »
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/20/3220223/baby-lisas-lawyers-say-police.html
Baby Lisa’s lawyers say police are trying to extract confession
October 21, 2011
::snipping2::
Just two days after Lisa Irwin disappeared from her Northland home on Oct. 4, a police spokesman announced that her parents had stopped cooperating with investigators. The family then released a statement to reporters disputing that.
Since then, police and the family and its attorneys have sparred over what constitutes cooperation.
Short, a veteran criminal defense lawyer, said Bradley and Irwin have continued to have regular and productive contact with investigators, have permitted numerous searches of their property and have willingly provided DNA, fingerprint and hair samples to investigators.
They stand ready to do more for police, said Short, who is working on the case pro bono.
“We’ve told them, if you need anything we can provide it,” Short said.
Police spokesman Young responded that the last time the couple consented to an “unrestricted” interview was Oct. 8.
“What we need from them, and what we are not getting, is for them to sit down with our detectives and get answers to the questions we need answered,” Young said.
O’Brien, a law professor who briefly represented the couple during the Oct. 8 interview, said Bradley and Irwin’s strained relationship with police stems, in part, from investigators’ pursuit of them as suspects. Police also have not kept the family informed about the search for Lisa, which has been a strain on the family, he said.
“They read the newspaper to hear about progress in the investigation,” O’Brien said.
He said police clearly have concluded that Bradley and Irwin know more than they’ve told about Lisa’s disappearance.
During the Oct. 8 interview, O’Brien said, police advanced theories that perhaps Lisa had died in a simple accident at the home, or that one of the parents had shaken the baby to death in a fit of irritation or anger.
“I’m sure if I wouldn’t have been there, it would have been more heavy-handed,” O’Brien said.
Young rejected O’Brien’s suggestion that investigators pushed unreasonably for a confession.
“I’m sure all reasonable people understand that finding out what the parents in the home know is a crucial step in finding the girl,” Young said.
Although Short has been on the case for only a few days, she already has begun cataloging the contact that Bradley and Irwin have had with investigators since they first called the 911 dispatcher.
Thus far, according to Short, the couple has allowed police to:
Take their computer; call an Amber Alert, knowing that it would bring federal investigators into the case; take their other two children for forensic interviews; have the complete run of their home, their vehicles, a shed and a pop-up camper; take DNA and other biological evidence; obtain Lisa’s medical records, including those for well-baby visits; and conduct a polygraph examination on Bradley.
The couple also receives five or six calls a day from investigators, said Short, who estimated that Bradley and Irwin each have spent about 40 hours answering police questions since Lisa disappeared.
Young acknowledged that the parents have been helpful.
“They’ve done other things, but when I say we’re not getting full cooperation, I’m saying we’re not getting what we need,” Young said.
The family was particularly perplexed by the need for investigators to obtain a warrant to search the family home on Wednesday. Weeks ago, Short said, Bradley and Irwin gave police permission to do anything they wanted at the house.
Short said she was told that officers wanted to use “more invasive procedures” at the house. Media reports had investigators hauling off carpet and using a portable X-ray machine to study the walls.
“There was no reason to use the search warrants,” Short said. “The only reason they did it was to isolate (Bradley and Irwin) and present an image in the community that was unfair and inaccurate.”
Short said she and the couple are weighing a request from police for a new interview with detectives and are considering the terms under which they might agree.
Young said the terms are clear and on the table.
“We’re talking about sitting down with our detectives separately … to learn the things that only the adults, only the parents of this child, might know,” Young said.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11
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Quote from: trimmonthelake on October 21, 2011, 03:00:45 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/21/3221138/cadaver-dog-has-hit-inside-house.html?r
Cadaver dog ‘hit’ inside house in Lisa Irwin case
By TONY RIZZO
The Kansas City Star
Posted on Fri, Oct. 21, 2011 01:54 PM
Read more:
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/21/3221138/cadaver-dog-has-hit-inside-house.html?r#ixzz1bRbKYhia
Read more:
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/21/3221138/cadaver-dog-has-hit-inside-house.html?r#ixzz1bRcp1SwM
::snipping2::
The dog, which had been taken into the house Monday on the consent of Lisa’s parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, indicated a reaction to the scent of a dead person
“in an area of the floor of Bradley’s bedroom near the bed,”
the affidavit said.
::snipping2::
BBM Not clear on scent site: Deborah's bedroom floor OR near Lisa's crib in her bedroom.
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October 21, 2011, 03:11:09 PM »
The affidavit also revealed: "Investigative interviews with the people involved revealed conflicting information for clear direction in the investigation. Bradley made the statement she did not initially look for her baby behind the house because she 'was afraid of what she might find.'"
by Brian Foster - KMBC.com 1:58 PM
The affidavit revealed:
"On October 17, 2011, an FBI cadaver dog was brought into the residence upon consent of Irwin and Bradley. The cadaver dog indicated a positive 'hit' for the scent of a deceased human in an area of the floor of Bradley's bedroom near the bed."
by Brian Foster - KMBC.com 1:57 PM
BREAKING: Details of Lisa Irwin search warrant released...more here:
www.kmbc.com
by Brian Foster - KMBC.com 1:57 PM
Read more:
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1bRe1Cxo7
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Re: Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11
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Quote from: Yoder1 on October 21, 2011, 03:09:47 PM
Quote from: trimmonthelake on October 21, 2011, 03:00:45 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/21/3221138/cadaver-dog-has-hit-inside-house.html?r
Cadaver dog ‘hit’ inside house in Lisa Irwin case
By TONY RIZZO
The Kansas City Star
Posted on Fri, Oct. 21, 2011 01:54 PM
Read more:
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/21/3221138/cadaver-dog-has-hit-inside-house.html?r#ixzz1bRbKYhia
Read more:
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/21/3221138/cadaver-dog-has-hit-inside-house.html?r#ixzz1bRcp1SwM
::snipping2::
The dog, which had been taken into the house Monday on the consent of Lisa’s parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, indicated a reaction to the scent of a dead person
“in an area of the floor of Bradley’s bedroom near the bed,”
the affidavit said.
::snipping2::
BBM Not clear on scent site: Deborah's bedroom floor OR near Lisa's crib in her bedroom.
Sorry, I was looking for a link for someone and got behind. Bradley, so it had to be DB and JL's bedroom. Sorry.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11
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An image of the affidavit
by Brian Foster - KMBC.com on Oct 21, 2011 at 2:58 PM
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Re: Lisa Irwin #3 10/17/11
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Has LE posted any pictures of what the clothes look like that Lisa was last seen in...you know...like LE did when Kyron went missing?
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She's going to arrested soon, today. Jmo.
She covered the WHOLE issue up.
What a waste of money and police time.
Poor Lisa.........
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After the break - more on Baby Lisa -
more from the search warrant: discrepancies in the mother's story
Jeannine Pirro is on the scene
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People are talking on the board at
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old
about this.
That the dog hit on a smell
....Can't confirm, can't find where it states this.....
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Quote from: Puzzler on October 21, 2011, 03:25:35 PM
After the break - more on Baby Lisa -
more from the search warrant: discrepancies in the mother's story
Jeannine Pirro is on the scene
....and freshly turned dirt in the back yard........
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Curious - Lamars got clearance from PD to put up billboards; would they give that clearance if an arrest is near?
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Police also investigating some freshly turned dirt in the back yard.
Jeannine Pirro - info search warrant - bottom line a lot of info very distrubing
dogs hit on floor of house
garden area on land appears to have dirt overturned
inconsistent statements by parents
S/W written by a 13-yr. veteran
now we understand why police are going back
police collected:
multi colored comforter
purple shorts ( important because mom said she put child to bed in purple shorts)
glow worm toy
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