May 26, 2018, 10:30:43 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: NEW CHILD BOARD CREATED IN THE POLITICAL SECTION FOR THE 2016 ELECTION
 
   Home   Help Login Register  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 »   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 - 1/13/12  (Read 247064 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 31966


ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #300 on: January 08, 2012, 03:14:16 AM »

From the video...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45889216/ns/world_news-americas/t/natalee-holloway-suspect-joran-van-der-sloot-begin-murder-trial/#.TwlGsaXwtQ0



Holding back tears Stephany's father says he hasn't been able to mourn his daughter's death, a year and a half later.  "I hope when this is over I will finally be able to cry."


Also from the video...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45889216/ns/world_news-americas/t/natalee-holloway-suspect-joran-van-der-sloot-begin-murder-trial/#.TwlGsaXwtQ0



"Both of our daughters met their fate at the hands of the same killer."

"I would have done anything in order to have this day for Natalee's case."

Logged

I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
Tibrogargan
Monkey All Star Jr.
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5315



« Reply #301 on: January 08, 2012, 04:27:56 AM »

After all these years, watching Beth on that video can still break my heart.  God Bless you Beth and I hope you gain some peace from a successful outcome of this trial, along with Stephany's family.

I do not understand the need for a delay while the charges to be faced have to be thought about.  Surely Joran has had ample time over the past 19 months sitting on his butt in a jail cell to know what he plans to plead.

TexasMom thank you for the transcripts as I do not get many of the interviews on our TV channels here.  I appreciate what you do to keep us all up to date.

It is so good to see so many monkeys posting again that have stayed with this case over the years.  May we all be rejoicing at the outcome.

Logged



....And at night the wondírous glory of the everlasting stars..  A.B (Banjo) Paterson
crazybabyborg
Guest
« Reply #302 on: January 08, 2012, 04:46:02 AM »

I wonder if Joran ever thinks about his life before Natalee? I so hope he misses the sound of the ocean, or the feel of family around him. Maybe he doesn't even think about those things, but I'd bet he misses the feeling that he is in control of his life. I don't think even Joran can look around him at this point and maintain that cocky feeling............. he works hard at trying to look like he still feels that way, but it's pretty transparent.

I think that "need a little more time" move in court is the result of that. He's got to know that life in prison will change after the trial, and I think he just choked. He's afraid, more afraid than he's ever been in his life and there's no way out this time. He's trapped, just as surely as he trapped Natalee and Stephany. He can't get away, just as they could not. His duration of anticipation is far longer than his victims. His anxiety build up from realizing coming and certain death, has been slow and drawn out, but I do believe he knows.

This is it, Monkeys. While this trial is not Natalee's trial, Natalee's case will seal his fate and Natalee's case will be the cause of his failure to reduce the charges and sentence. It will be Natalee that removes the last hope of ever walking free or walking out of prison alive. That pesky fact of the 5th anniversary and the searches about Natalee made by Joran, are going to shut down his best efforts. I even believe that one Beth Holloway had more to do with his arrogant posture in court than any other person on earth, and she can be proud of that. He hates that Beth might view his circumstances with satisfaction.

This is Natalee's justice. We're going to see it and there is nowhere for Joran to run except back within those prison walls to his death. I believe the Flores Family's influence will assure that Joran's experience in prison, post trial, will be to their liking.

We are about to see Justice's path intersect with Joran's, and that scale she's holding has his name on it.
Logged
grace-land
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 16839



« Reply #303 on: January 08, 2012, 11:12:47 AM »

http://trome.pe/actualidad/1358230/noticia-martin-nizama-joran-tiene-perfil-psicopata

Google translation

Sunday January 8, 2012 - 09:50
Nizama Martin: 'Joran has the profile of a psychopath'
Psychiatrist analyzed gestures and attitudes of Dutch killed Stephany Flores.

The Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (24) is cold, calculating and not regret anything, so has the profile of a psychopath, the psychiatrist concluded Nizama Martin.

The specialist examined the attitudes of the murderer of Stephany Flores (21), during his presentation at the Third Criminal Chamber Defendants Jail, where he was defiant, threw himself into a chair, yawned and scratched his head, so that the judge caught his attention.

"Mark the area as saying" I am the owner of the room, "but then comes anxiety. He scratches the body, touch, takes off his clothes, because at heart he is a coward, "said Nizam.

Van der Sloot added that has the profile of a "primary psychopath". "Inability to feel values ​​have to respect rules, to feel guilt or regret," he said.

To Nizama, that the defendant seeks to benefit from a sincere confession, accepting that killed Stephany, is just a legal strategy (to receive fewer years in prison), "but he does not feel guilty."

NO BENEFITS

In turn, Josť Camarena, an attorney for Ricardo Flores, the victim's father, said that the EU does not qualify for the figure of a sincere confession.

"At this stage of the process, this benefit does not apply technically. The Chamber raised him and he asked those alternatives term to coordinate details. On Wednesday give its final opinion, "he said.

 ::snipping2::

If the Dutch accepted the charges, the penalty may be reduced to 15 years or less.
Logged
grace-land
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 16839



« Reply #304 on: January 08, 2012, 11:25:07 AM »

http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2012/01_januari/08/binnenland/joran-van-der-sloot-spontaan-en-optimistisch-advocaat-jimenez.xml

Google translation

RTL News | January 8, 2012, 16:01
Lawyer: Joran optimistic

Joran is spontaneous and makes fast friends in prison in Peru. Navarro Jimenez says that his lawyer in an interview with Nina Jurna for RTL News
 ::snipping2::
Jose Jimenez Navarro, a lawyer for Van der Sloot, was world-famous overnight. One after another camera crew comes to his home, an office for the inexperienced lawyer yet. Jimenez took over the business from his uncle, who stepped down as attorney of Joran after dispute over money.

Jimťnez makes the best of Joran in prison. "He is sitting with three prisoners in a cell, where he has entered into friendship. He uses all the possibilities out there, he works in the prison and is optimistic."

A fair trial
Joran attorney doubts whether his client a fair trial. "He has from the outset had no interpreter, he just had to sign documents and Stephany's family is very influential and has great power here." Tomorrow will discuss with his lawyer, Van der Sloot's strategy for the next meeting. Scheduled for Wednesday at 16:00 hours Dutch time.
Logged
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 31966


ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #305 on: January 08, 2012, 12:07:31 PM »

After all these years, watching Beth on that video can still break my heart.  God Bless you Beth and I hope you gain some peace from a successful outcome of this trial, along with Stephany's family.

I do not understand the need for a delay while the charges to be faced have to be thought about.  Surely Joran has had ample time over the past 19 months sitting on his butt in a jail cell to know what he plans to plead.

TexasMom thank you for the transcripts as I do not get many of the interviews on our TV channels here.  I appreciate what you do to keep us all up to date.

It is so good to see so many monkeys posting again that have stayed with this case over the years.  May we all be rejoicing at the outcome.



Hi Tibro!   

It is still heartbreaking to watch Beth especially knowing how long she and all of Natalee's loved ones have waited for Justice and answers.  It's just not right.  That's why it makes me so mad when the defender's of Joran try to blame his being hounded and questioned about Natalee all these years as a reason for his madness and actions.  Natalee's family has only done what any family should do in their situation...never give up!  Fortunately they have had help from many in the media to keep searching for the answers they need and deserve.  And Joran has PUT HIMSELF back in the spotlight MANY TIMES when he needed money; and has only added to the torment he's put Natalee's loved ones through.  But his defender's don't seem to have a problem with that!

 

Joran has had ample time to know what he wanted to do; as John Q. Kelly said this delay is just one more way of his trying to have control.  He thinks he's smarter than them all!  I think the judges only granted it so it wouldn't be a point for appeal; so I'm glad they did.  jmo

He is just trying to manipulate the system in Peru like his father taught him so well.  All of the complaints he's filed are part of that, and I'm sure we'll see more before this is over.

I can just imagine what attorneys will join him to try to manipulate the justice system here when he is eventually extradited to Alabama to face charges.  I feel sure that work is already in progress.

You're welcome Tibro.  I have kind of spread myself thin (with the time I have) following more than just Natalee and Stephany's cases so I don't transcribe as much as I usually would.  But there are some things I see or hear that stand out that I want to share with everyone right away.

It does my heart good to see so many monkeys back and posting too!  And I hope we can all rejoice together here soon as well.  As Beth has said many times, justice comes in many forms.  And although this trial is about Stephany's murder in particular; justice for her will also be some justice for Natalee.  I'll still continue to pray for the day when Natalee and her family receive the answers and ultimate justice they all deserve. 
Logged

I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 36962



« Reply #306 on: January 08, 2012, 12:17:01 PM »

I wonder if Joran ever thinks about his life before Natalee? I so hope he misses the sound of the ocean, or the feel of family around him. Maybe he doesn't even think about those things, but I'd bet he misses the feeling that he is in control of his life. I don't think even Joran can look around him at this point and maintain that cocky feeling............. he works hard at trying to look like he still feels that way, but it's pretty transparent.

I think that "need a little more time" move in court is the result of that. He's got to know that life in prison will change after the trial, and I think he just choked. He's afraid, more afraid than he's ever been in his life and there's no way out this time. He's trapped, just as surely as he trapped Natalee and Stephany. He can't get away, just as they could not. His duration of anticipation is far longer than his victims. His anxiety build up from realizing coming and certain death, has been slow and drawn out, but I do believe he knows.

This is it, Monkeys. While this trial is not Natalee's trial, Natalee's case will seal his fate and Natalee's case will be the cause of his failure to reduce the charges and sentence. It will be Natalee that removes the last hope of ever walking free or walking out of prison alive. That pesky fact of the 5th anniversary and the searches about Natalee made by Joran, are going to shut down his best efforts. I even believe that one Beth Holloway had more to do with his arrogant posture in court than any other person on earth, and she can be proud of that. He hates that Beth might view his circumstances with satisfaction.

This is Natalee's justice. We're going to see it and there is nowhere for Joran to run except back within those prison walls to his death. I believe the Flores Family's influence will assure that Joran's experience in prison, post trial, will be to their liking.

We are about to see Justice's path intersect with Joran's, and that scale she's holding has his name on it.


Thank you CBB.

Janet

+++++


Natalee Holloway's Mom: Aruba Investigators 'Not Following Up on Any Leads'
Wednesday, November 19, 2008


<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY: And Greta, I was just wanting to say that, you know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.

<snipped

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html
Logged

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
_____

ďA person of integrity expects to be believed and when heís not, he letís time prove him right.Ē -unknown
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 36962



« Reply #307 on: January 08, 2012, 12:18:47 PM »

 ::justice2NJ::
Logged

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
_____

ďA person of integrity expects to be believed and when heís not, he letís time prove him right.Ē -unknown
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 36962



« Reply #308 on: January 08, 2012, 12:23:59 PM »

Waiting for the Sentence: Joran van der Sloot's Slow Road to Justice
By Lucien Chauvin / Lima
Friday, Jan. 06, 2012


http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2103945,00.html?xid=gonewsedit
Logged

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
_____

ďA person of integrity expects to be believed and when heís not, he letís time prove him right.Ē -unknown
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 31966


ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #309 on: January 08, 2012, 01:10:56 PM »

I wonder if Joran ever thinks about his life before Natalee? I so hope he misses the sound of the ocean, or the feel of family around him. Maybe he doesn't even think about those things, but I'd bet he misses the feeling that he is in control of his life. I don't think even Joran can look around him at this point and maintain that cocky feeling............. he works hard at trying to look like he still feels that way, but it's pretty transparent.

I think that "need a little more time" move in court is the result of that. He's got to know that life in prison will change after the trial, and I think he just choked. He's afraid, more afraid than he's ever been in his life and there's no way out this time. He's trapped, just as surely as he trapped Natalee and Stephany. He can't get away, just as they could not. His duration of anticipation is far longer than his victims. His anxiety build up from realizing coming and certain death, has been slow and drawn out, but I do believe he knows.

This is it, Monkeys. While this trial is not Natalee's trial, Natalee's case will seal his fate and Natalee's case will be the cause of his failure to reduce the charges and sentence. It will be Natalee that removes the last hope of ever walking free or walking out of prison alive. That pesky fact of the 5th anniversary and the searches about Natalee made by Joran, are going to shut down his best efforts. I even believe that one Beth Holloway had more to do with his arrogant posture in court than any other person on earth, and she can be proud of that. He hates that Beth might view his circumstances with satisfaction.

This is Natalee's justice. We're going to see it and there is nowhere for Joran to run except back within those prison walls to his death. I believe the Flores Family's influence will assure that Joran's experience in prison, post trial, will be to their liking.

We are about to see Justice's path intersect with Joran's, and that scale she's holding has his name on it.

ITA CBB!   

I'm sure he does miss having control over his life whether he'd want anyone to know it or not.    He knew he'd be on television everywhere and just look at him at his trial.  He looked pale, clammy, really bad hair cut, a glaring zit that was very prominent in one picture I saw (hehe) , dressed poorly...and his behavior was horrible but that was all he had control over so he used that.  If I could have captured it I would have but there was a point right after the judges were seated that there was a look in his eyes of the disdain he had for the women judges...like yeah right they're going to judge ME!  Well IMO that is justice in one form too.  It disgusted me to hear some of the commentators question whether Joran would captivate these women judges...since he is such a ladies man...and influence their decision in this case!  GMAFB! 

But you're right CBB, Natalee will be in the minds of all who judge Joran.  And he played as much a role in that as anyone.  He used Natalee in his lies to his mother and the Chilean authorities in the BS story he made up about "what really happened".  That story was pathetic, and just goes to show how much help Joran had in Aruba from his father.  But Joran didn't have him there to "get the story straight" this time.  His lies were pathetic, and they didn't fool anyone...except maybe his mother and some of her cronies?  And then when Chile expelled him back to Peru instead of allowing him to go back to Aruba...he wants to talk to the Aruban authorities about Natalee?  Now why would he want to do that if he was innocent in Natalee's case?  So even without a trial or conviction in Natalee's case, I feel confident that Joran himself has left little if any doubt in the minds of those in Peru, who may not have known about the events in Aruba when they happened...but who know what went on after his arrest in Stephany's case; that he was GUILTY in Natalee's case as well!  He didn't have a clean up crew in Peru either, and the evidence of many kinds speaks of his desperation and proves exactly who murdered Stephany!

Joran's meeting face to face with Justice has been a long time coming; he has only delayed the inevitable.

  ::justice2NJ::
Logged

I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
crazybabyborg
Guest
« Reply #310 on: January 08, 2012, 01:22:40 PM »

Well said, TM!! 

We're going to see it............. justice for Natalee. How incredibly tragic that another young girl has lost her life and another family is left to cope with the loss because Joran was allowed to walk free.

Those cigars can be lit. The ticking clock is about to chime.
Logged
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 31966


ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #311 on: January 08, 2012, 02:04:38 PM »

Well said, TM!! 

We're going to see it............. justice for Natalee. How incredibly tragic that another young girl has lost her life and another family is left to cope with the loss because Joran was allowed to walk free.

Those cigars can be lit. The ticking clock is about to chime.

Absolutely CBB, tragic indeed.   



Logged

I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
San
Super Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 15882



« Reply #312 on: January 08, 2012, 07:23:52 PM »

I wonder if Joran ever thinks about his life before Natalee? I so hope he misses the sound of the ocean, or the feel of family around him. Maybe he doesn't even think about those things, but I'd bet he misses the feeling that he is in control of his life. I don't think even Joran can look around him at this point and maintain that cocky feeling............. he works hard at trying to look like he still feels that way, but it's pretty transparent.

I think that "need a little more time" move in court is the result of that. He's got to know that life in prison will change after the trial, and I think he just choked. He's afraid, more afraid than he's ever been in his life and there's no way out this time. He's trapped, just as surely as he trapped Natalee and Stephany. He can't get away, just as they could not. His duration of anticipation is far longer than his victims. His anxiety build up from realizing coming and certain death, has been slow and drawn out, but I do believe he knows.

This is it, Monkeys. While this trial is not Natalee's trial, Natalee's case will seal his fate and Natalee's case will be the cause of his failure to reduce the charges and sentence. It will be Natalee that removes the last hope of ever walking free or walking out of prison alive. That pesky fact of the 5th anniversary and the searches about Natalee made by Joran, are going to shut down his best efforts. I even believe that one Beth Holloway had more to do with his arrogant posture in court than any other person on earth, and she can be proud of that. He hates that Beth might view his circumstances with satisfaction.

This is Natalee's justice. We're going to see it and there is nowhere for Joran to run except back within those prison walls to his death. I believe the Flores Family's influence will assure that Joran's experience in prison, post trial, will be to their liking.

We are about to see Justice's path intersect with Joran's, and that scale she's holding has his name on it.

ITA CBB!   

I'm sure he does miss having control over his life whether he'd want anyone to know it or not.    He knew he'd be on television everywhere and just look at him at his trial.  He looked pale, clammy, really bad hair cut, a glaring zit that was very prominent in one picture I saw (hehe) , dressed poorly...and his behavior was horrible but that was all he had control over so he used that.  If I could have captured it I would have but there was a point right after the judges were seated that there was a look in his eyes of the disdain he had for the women judges...like yeah right they're going to judge ME!  Well IMO that is justice in one form too.  It disgusted me to hear some of the commentators question whether Joran would captivate these women judges...since he is such a ladies man...and influence their decision in this case!  GMAFB! 

But you're right CBB, Natalee will be in the minds of all who judge Joran.  And he played as much a role in that as anyone.  He used Natalee in his lies to his mother and the Chilean authorities in the BS story he made up about "what really happened".  That story was pathetic, and just goes to show how much help Joran had in Aruba from his father.  But Joran didn't have him there to "get the story straight" this time.  His lies were pathetic, and they didn't fool anyone...except maybe his mother and some of her cronies?  And then when Chile expelled him back to Peru instead of allowing him to go back to Aruba...he wants to talk to the Aruban authorities about Natalee?  Now why would he want to do that if he was innocent in Natalee's case?  So even without a trial or conviction in Natalee's case, I feel confident that Joran himself has left little if any doubt in the minds of those in Peru, who may not have known about the events in Aruba when they happened...but who know what went on after his arrest in Stephany's case; that he was GUILTY in Natalee's case as well!  He didn't have a clean up crew in Peru either, and the evidence of many kinds speaks of his desperation and proves exactly who murdered Stephany!

Joran's meeting face to face with Justice has been a long time coming; he has only delayed the inevitable.

  ::justice2NJ::

I totally agree.
Logged
San
Super Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 15882



« Reply #313 on: January 08, 2012, 07:25:20 PM »

Well said, TM!! 

We're going to see it............. justice for Natalee. How incredibly tragic that another young girl has lost her life and another family is left to cope with the loss because Joran was allowed to walk free.

Those cigars can be lit. The ticking clock is about to chime.

Because Aruba allowed him to get away with murder.
Logged
San
Super Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 15882



« Reply #314 on: January 08, 2012, 07:27:10 PM »

Aruba's new slogan.  If you need to get away with murder come and enjoy the sun and we will take care of the rest.
Logged
Tamikosmom
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 36962



« Reply #315 on: January 08, 2012, 07:31:37 PM »

Psalm 28:
The LORD is my strength and my shield; in him my heart trusts, and I am helped.


Loving Natalee
A Motherís Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Pages 100:
He entrusted me with her care for eighteen years.  Now I must trust Him to care for her.  So I never ask Him why.  Why Natalee?  Why me?  I don't ask.  To do that undermines faith.  Instead, I form an "acceptance trust" with Him there on the windy hillside.
 
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.


He Will Carry You
 
There is no problem too big
God cannot solve
There is no mountain too tall
He cannot move
There is not storm too dark
God cannot calm
There is no sorrow too deep
He cannot soothe

If He carried the weight of the world upon His shoulders
I know, my brother that He will carry you
If He carried the weight of the world upon His shoulders
I know, my sister that He will carry you

He said come on to me all who are weary
And I will give you rest

Scott Wesley Brown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9JEsJJYjyI
Logged

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
_____

ďA person of integrity expects to be believed and when heís not, he letís time prove him right.Ē -unknown
grace-land
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 16839



« Reply #316 on: January 08, 2012, 08:24:56 PM »

http://www.nd.nl/artikelen/2012/januari/08/-overplaatsing-joran-is-fabeltje

Google translation

Sunday hours 08-01-201218:49
"Transfer Joran's fable"

Reports that the prison service in Peru INPE plans to Joran to be transferred to the notorious prison Challapalca are pure fantasy. That says Van der Sloot's lawyer, Jose Jimenez Navarro. He said there has never been the case for his client to the "Siberia of Peru" would be sent, as the prison in the Andes Mountains is also called.

 ::snipping2::

The Challapalca prison, located in the district of Tacna in southern Peru, was opened in 1996 in particular members of terrorist groups like the Shining Path to close. The human rights situation in these prisons is controversial. This includes, but less so for the Miguel Castro Castro Prison.
Logged
grace-land
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 16839



« Reply #317 on: January 08, 2012, 10:23:25 PM »

Video at link (Spanish)

http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1357733/noticia-conoce-tres-mujeres-que-juzgaran-joran-van-der-sloot

Google translation

Meet three women who judge Joran van der Sloot
Victoria Montoya, Martha Vargas, Pilar Carbonell should confirm or deny the request for 30 years against the Dutch
Saturday January 7, 2012 - 12:13 am

Three judges make up the third criminal division for inmates in jail. They will be up to them to confirm or deny the request of 30 years in prison did the prosecution against Joran van der Sloot for aggravated homicide of the young Stephany Flores.

 ::snipping2::

The judge who presides over the room, Victoria Montoya Peraldo was who ruled last year against FAP instructors Vicente Mendoza Jorge Gutierrez, Abraham Rojas Marcos Gaitan Cave and Narro, confirming that tortured the Air Force recruits Frank Romero Arrieta .

In 2010, Judge Martha Vargas Gonzales integrated the fourth room for inmates in jail penalty which gave freedom to the folk singer Abencio Meza, when the artist was six months in the Women's Criminal Chorrillos. Also sentenced to 25 years to three barristers Alianza Lima that killed a worker stoned to steal the phone.

Pilar Carbonell, meanwhile, was investigated by the OCMA to release two books counterfeiters just a couple of days after they were captured.
Logged
Frijole
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 4262



« Reply #318 on: January 08, 2012, 10:47:12 PM »

Interesting that ole Joran will be judged by 3 women.  Monkey Devil!

I watched the video and they all 3 look very serious and appear to be taking their job seriously.  I'd think his pompass attitude would do him no favors. 

Time for justice to prevail.  Hang him.   
Logged
texasmom
Monkey Mega Star
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 31966


ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #319 on: January 08, 2012, 10:50:05 PM »

Interesting that ole Joran will be judged by 3 women.  Monkey Devil!

I watched the video and they all 3 look very serious and appear to be taking their job seriously.  I'd think his pompass attitude would do him no favors. 

Time for justice to prevail.  Hang him.   

 
Logged

I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 »   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Use of this web site in any manner signifies unconditional acceptance, without exception, of our terms of use.
Powered by SMF 1.1.13 | SMF © 2006-2011, Simple Machines LLC
 
Page created in 0.15 seconds with 19 queries.