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« Reply #60 on: January 01, 2012, 02:52:36 AM »






Justice for Natalee and Stephany!

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« Reply #61 on: January 01, 2012, 11:10:20 AM »

Thank you Red.   

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/12/31/in-memoriam-celebrities-we-lost-in-2011-liz-taylor-james-arness-peter-faulk-steve-jobs-and-our-own-2njsons_mom/

In Memoriam …Celebrities We Lost in 2011: Liz Taylor, James Arness, Peter Faulk, Steve Jobs and our own 2NJSons_Mom

In Memoriam of celebrities we lost in 2011, and one of our own celebs … We say goodbye, but you will never be forgot.  So many of these celebs put a smile on our face and made us enjoy life, especially 2NJSons_Mom.

1.  2NJSons_Mom-  In Loving Memory of 2NJSons_Mom … Sadly in 2011, Scared Monkeys lost one of our own.Loss is always difficult and saying goodbye is especially hard when it is one of your own. She was loved by so many, read the many prayers & tributes. http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9480.0
Until we meet again, God Bless.Sadly, we learned over the weekend that 2NJSons_Mom, a long time beloved Scared Monkey and moderator had passed away. The shock of the news was only outdone by the tears. Our hearts and prayers go out to the family and friends of 2NJSons_Mom as we all at Scared Monkeys deal with her loss. As news spread of her passing, Scared Monkeys members expressed their sorrow, tears, condolences and prayers for 2NJSons_Mom and her family. Scared Monkeys would like to thank the family of 2NJSons_Mom for sharing her with us. She was a special person who touched many lives.  You touched so many of us with your character and just being you. The pain of letting you go is only comforted by knowing that Heaven just became a better place and that you are no longer in pain and in eternal peace with The Father.
It is with our deepest sympathies that we say goodbye to 2NJSons_Mom, a special person who helped make Scared Monkeys a special place and the world a better place.  Please know dear God that the memory and spirit of 2NJ’s Son Mom will forever be in our hearts and a part of Scared Monkeys. Until we meet again dear 2NJ’s Son Mom, I only say good bye for now, until we meet again my friend … thank you for making a difference and this world a better place.

With all of our profound sadness and love,

Your family at Scared Monkey … God Bless You and Rest in Peace my Friend.

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« Reply #62 on: January 01, 2012, 11:14:30 AM »

texasmom - Happy New Year to you and yours!

Thank you for your steadfast work here and the information you bring!
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« Reply #63 on: January 01, 2012, 11:15:40 AM »

Happy New Year Monkeys!

Justice is coming!!!!

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« Reply #64 on: January 01, 2012, 11:54:37 AM »

http://www.rnw.nl/espanol/bulletin/per%C3%BA-anuncia-el-juicio-contra-joran-van-der-sloot

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Peru announced the lawsuit against Joran van der Sloot
Posted on January 1, 2012 - 2:48 pm

LIMA (ANP / RNW) - The Peruvian justice said the case against Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, charged with the murder of Peruvian Stephany Flores, will begin next Friday in Lima. Prosecutors said 30 years in prison asked for the defendant and the payment of a fine of around 50 000 euros.

This case is closely followed in Peru, the Netherlands and the United States. In addition to the suspect in the murder of young Flores, Joran van der Sloot also appears as a suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway American teenager in Aruba, in May 2005. To date Holloway remains missing.

In his first Van der Sloot confessed to killing Stephany Flores in a hotel room in Lima. As he did in a fit of rage when he saw that she was reading documents Peruvian Natalee Holloway on his laptop.
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« Reply #65 on: January 01, 2012, 11:59:34 AM »

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Article/Detail.aspx?articleid=DMF20120101_046

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Joran van der Sloot in Lima Friday for Judge
Sunday, January 1, 2012, 4:06 p.m.

And a half years after the murder of Peruvian Stephany Flores Friday begins the trial of the Dutch suspect Joran van der Sloot. The prosecutor in Lima was already known that he is 30 years imprisonment claims against the 24-year-old. Justice also wants that Van der Sloot pay a fine of 50,000 euros.

The first hearing in the case of Van der Sloot begins at 10 am local time. The media attention will undoubtedly be very large.

In Peru, the Netherlands and the United States, developments surrounding the murder closely followed. Van der Sloot is not only suspect in the murder of 21-year-old Flores, but was rather too emphatically into view as a suspect of involvement in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway in Aruba on May 30, 2005, exactly five years before the violent death of Flores. Holloway is still missing trace.
 
In previous hearings, Van der Sloot confessed that he has slain Stephany Flores in his hotel room in Lima. He would have acted in a violent emotion, after he saw Flores in his laptop looked at documents on the Holloway case. The trial of Van der Sloot is held in the Lurigancho prison in Lima. This detention center is in the same district where the Castro prison is where Van der Sloot in custody.
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« Reply #66 on: January 01, 2012, 01:13:31 PM »

Grace

Thanks for all the heads ups from Peruvian sources that you afford the Natalee Holloway forum.

Five more sleeps!  I wonder how many more sleeps until a verdict is forthcoming against Joran van der Sloot for the brutal murder of Stephany Flores ... the brutal murder that would not have happened if a corrupt Aruban investigation had not prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway.

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February 13, 2008

Monkeys Media Reminder … Beth Holloway & Peter R. DeVries on Dana Pretzer Show on Scared Monkeys Radio
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Beth Holloway:

47:50 - "I feel strongly that he (Joran) is a time bomb that is waiting to go off.  He will strike again.  It is not just for Natalee that I would like to see him behind bars.  I think he has shown us all he has no control over himself or his actions."

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/02/13/monkeys-media-reminder-beth-holloway-peter-r-devries-on-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio/


June 11, 2010

Natalee Holloway Suspect Wanted in Peru
Published: 06/11/2010


LATEST DETAILS FROM CBS NEWS:

NEW YORK (CBS) Joran van der Sloot, the Dutch national who has been detained several times in the Natalee Holloway case, has now been named the prime suspect in the murder of a Peruvian girl, according to local reports.

Crimesider has been told that an Aruban prosecutor described van der Sloot as being on the run, but we have been unable to independently confirm it.

Early Wednesday morning, Stephany Flores Ramirez, 21, was found dead in a hotel room in Peru located on the avenue Miraflores district of Lima, Peruvian newspaper El Comercio reports. According to police reports, the girl was brutally stabbed and was found wrapped in a blanket in a pool of blood.

Ramirez was the daughter of racecar driver and well-known businessman Ricardo Flores.

According to Peruvian police, she was last seen with van der Sloot, who has not been located.

According to the Peruvian newspaper, the hotel room where Ramirez's body was found was registered under van der Sloot's name. Hotel employees also told police that they saw him with the girl over the weekend.

Five years ago, in May 2005, Alabama high school student Natalee Holloway disappeared during a senior class trip to Aruba. She was 18 when she was last seen leaving a bar with Joran van der Sloot, who was 17 at the time. He was detained in the case several times but Aruban authorities have said they don't have enough evidence to charge him.

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UPDATE: BNO News is reporting the Prosecutor's Office in Aruba has confirmed that Joran Van Der Sloot is a suspect in the death of a Peruvian woman. Interpol has reportedly issued an international arrest warrant.

UPDATE: A police news conference is expected in Peru within the hour to confirm or clarify reports concerning Joran Van Der Sloot's alleged involvement in this murder case. CBS42 will update the story as soon as that information comes in.   

An international news agency is reporting Joran Van Der Sloot is a suspect in the murder of a 21 year old woman in Peru. Van Der Sloot was the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba five years ago.  According to BNO News the victim in this new case is Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez who was found dead this morning after disappearing Friday. Her family says she was last seen leaving a casino with Van Der Sloot.

CBS 42 News will continue to follow this developing story.

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Natalee-Holloway-Suspect-Wanted-in-Peru/aX4VxsGyFkiLkrg1pW-65g.cspx

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« Reply #67 on: January 01, 2012, 01:30:28 PM »

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« Reply #68 on: January 01, 2012, 02:13:35 PM »

Janet     

It was good to read that you had an enjoyable Christmas with your family, especially your grand kids!  Our Christmas season doesn't end until the Three Kings come bringing presents to the Infant Jesus this coming Sunday.  So, I have one more Christmas get-together this coming week--the fourth one!

Now, regarding the verdict for Joran.  It seems that the trial will take anywhere from 6 to 18 months!

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The chief of the Superior Court for Peru's capital says the murder trial of Joran van der Sloot should take about six months. An independent expert says it actually might take 18.
 
Van der Sloot is charged with murdering student Stephany Flores in his Lima hotel room on May 30.  He also remains the sole suspect in the unresolved 2005 disappearance of Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway on the Caribbean island of Aruba.

Judge Cesar Vega told reporters today that Peruvian laws allow up to six months for murder trial. But legal expert Mario Amoretti tells the Associated Press that in practice, cases like Van der Sloot's can last 18 months.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/06/peru_court_official_says_van_d.html
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« Reply #69 on: January 01, 2012, 02:58:26 PM »

http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/joran-van-der-sloot-murder-trial-start

Joran van der Sloot murder trial to start

Published on 1 January 2012 - 6:41pm

More about: Joran van der Sloot Natalee Holloway Stephany Flores

Dutchman Joran van der Sloot is to go on trial in the Peruvian capital Lima on Friday. He is accused of murdering Stephany Flores in his Lima hotel room on 30 May 2010.

Lima’s Public Prosecutor has announced he will seek a 30-year prison term and a fine of 50,000 euros. The trial, which is expected to attract considerable media coverage, will begin at 10.00 hours local time. The trial will be held in Lima’s Lurigancho prison near the Castro Castro prison where Mr Van der Sloot is on remand.

Questioned by the Peruvian authorities, Mr Van der Sloot admitted killing Ms Flores in his Lima hotel room. He said he acted on a violent impulse when he saw her read documents on his laptop relating to the disappearance of US teenager Natalee Holloway.

The 24-year-old Dutchman is the main suspect in the disappearance Ms Holloway on the Caribbean island of Aruba in May 2005. He has never been charged due to lack of evidence. Ms Holloway was 18 when she went missing. Ms Flores was 21 when she was killed.
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« Reply #70 on: January 01, 2012, 03:04:45 PM »

Janet     

It was good to read that you had an enjoyable Christmas with your family, especially your grand kids!  Our Christmas season doesn't end until the Three Kings come bringing presents to the Infant Jesus this coming Sunday.  So, I have one more Christmas get-together this coming week--the fourth one!

Now, regarding the verdict for Joran.  It seems that the trial will take anywhere from 6 to 18 months!

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The chief of the Superior Court for Peru's capital says the murder trial of Joran van der Sloot should take about six months. An independent expert says it actually might take 18.
 
Van der Sloot is charged with murdering student Stephany Flores in his Lima hotel room on May 30.  He also remains the sole suspect in the unresolved 2005 disappearance of Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway on the Caribbean island of Aruba.

Judge Cesar Vega told reporters today that Peruvian laws allow up to six months for murder trial. But legal expert Mario Amoretti tells the Associated Press that in practice, cases like Van der Sloot's can last 18 months.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/06/peru_court_official_says_van_d.html


6 - 18 months!!!



One more traditional gathering for us too.  It takes place today in Vancouver at the home of one of hubby's sisters  Eldest son, wife and children left with friends this morning for a Mexican vacation so they will be missing.

I must be getting old.  I am looking forward to life returning to normal.  I wish I could blink ... wiggle my nose and ... the Christmas tree and decorations were instantly in their respective bins in the our storage area.

Grace ... I hope your last Christmas gathering goes well next Sunday.

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« Reply #71 on: January 02, 2012, 12:48:21 AM »

The articles from the NL state the trial will be followed closely in Peru, Netherlands, and the United States.  It will be interesting to see how much coverage is given in Aruba. 

http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=10332

Joran van der Sloot murder trial to start
Posted by Aruba Daily on January 1st, 2012

Dutchman Joran van der Sloot is to go on trial in the Peruvian capital Lima on Friday. He is accused of murdering Stephany Flores in his Lima hotel room on 30 May 2010. Lima’s Public Prosecutor has announced he will seek a 30-year prison term and a fine of 50,000 euros. The trial, which is expected to attract considerable media coverage, will begin at 10.00 hours local time. The trial will be held in Lima’s Lurigancho prison near the Castro Castro prison where Mr Van der Sloot is on remand.

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« Reply #72 on: January 02, 2012, 01:33:38 AM »

The articles from the NL state the trial will be followed closely in Peru, Netherlands, and the United States.  It will be interesting to see how much coverage is given in Aruba. 

http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=10332

Joran van der Sloot murder trial to start
Posted by Aruba Daily on January 1st, 2012

Dutchman Joran van der Sloot is to go on trial in the Peruvian capital Lima on Friday. He is accused of murdering Stephany Flores in his Lima hotel room on 30 May 2010. Lima’s Public Prosecutor has announced he will seek a 30-year prison term and a fine of 50,000 euros. The trial, which is expected to attract considerable media coverage, will begin at 10.00 hours local time. The trial will be held in Lima’s Lurigancho prison near the Castro Castro prison where Mr Van der Sloot is on remand.

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« Reply #73 on: January 02, 2012, 01:36:40 AM »

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 


I notice that Aruba continues to call Joran "Dutchman" in their lame attempt to distance from him.  At long last, we will actually see him in a court of law even if for a different crime, one that never would have happened had Aruba done the right thing.
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« Reply #74 on: January 02, 2012, 02:03:09 AM »

The articles from the NL state the trial will be followed closely in Peru, Netherlands, and the United States.  It will be interesting to see how much coverage is given in Aruba. 

http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=10332

Joran van der Sloot murder trial to start
Posted by Aruba Daily on January 1st, 2012

Dutchman Joran van der Sloot is to go on trial in the Peruvian capital Lima on Friday. He is accused of murdering Stephany Flores in his Lima hotel room on 30 May 2010. Lima’s Public Prosecutor has announced he will seek a 30-year prison term and a fine of 50,000 euros. The trial, which is expected to attract considerable media coverage, will begin at 10.00 hours local time. The trial will be held in Lima’s Lurigancho prison near the Castro Castro prison where Mr Van der Sloot is on remand.

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No worry.  He is being held in prison in custody awaiting trial/continuation of the trial until he is sentenced to 30 years in prison.   
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« Reply #75 on: January 02, 2012, 02:05:56 AM »

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 


I notice that Aruba continues to call Joran "Dutchman" in their lame attempt to distance from him.  At long last, we will actually see him in a court of law even if for a different crime, one that never would have happened had Aruba done the right thing.

 

Happy New Year to you and your family!
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« Reply #76 on: January 02, 2012, 02:51:07 AM »

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 

I notice that Aruba continues to call Joran "Dutchman" in their lame attempt to distance from him.  At long last, we will actually see him in a court of law even if for a different crime, one that never would have happened had Aruba done the right thing.

And this trial would have never happened if this crime had been committed in Aruba, Stephany's brutal murder probably would have been ruled suicide.

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« Reply #77 on: January 02, 2012, 02:52:47 AM »

This comment was posted to one of the Robyn Gardner articles from August.

http://arubaherald.com/court/779-attorney-michael-lopez-and-client-did-not-expect-the-case-to-become-so-complicated.html

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written by Len Galli , November 29, 2011
On Nov 10th I was staying at the RIU hotel when I was attached in my hotel by 2 burglars. The police came to investigate the incident. The hotel is not doing anything at this point. I am a US citizen and would like to contact an attorney to find out my rights.

Any help would appeciated.

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« Reply #78 on: January 02, 2012, 04:48:11 AM »

Happy New Year!! I was in Las Vegas over the new year and saw that there is a Carlos & Charlie's going in at the Flamingo...It might be worth some research.
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« Reply #79 on: January 02, 2012, 09:37:43 AM »

Happy New Year!! I was in Las Vegas over the new year and saw that there is a Carlos & Charlie's going in at the Flamingo...It might be worth some research.

Hi KTF!  I'm rather surprised because CnC isn't as upscale as Vegas usually does things.  The Flamingo is a dying hotel/casino though IMO and are likely unable to attracted a higher quality nightclub.

http://lasvegasblog.harrahs.com/las-vegas-restaurant/first-look-inside-carlosn-charlies-at-flamingo-vegas/


http://www.vegastripping.com/news/news.php?news_id=4129

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Hahahaha both times I've been to Mexico the day has ended at Senor Frogs and/or Carlos and Charlies. Lets just say on my Mexico trip back in February I ended up with no pants at Senor Frogs (which I didn't know TI had one of). This should be great, bring tacky Mexican flare (you don't go for the food you go for the atmosphere) to the Vegas strip. Hopefully they'll hire REAL Mexicans to work it and not some lame white guy trying his best to hold a Mexican accent.

http://www.vegashotelnews.com/2011/07/carlosn-charlies-coming-to-flamingo.html

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