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Author Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 - 1/13/12  (Read 75519 times)
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« Reply #160 on: January 06, 2012, 11:18:05 AM »

http://www.newsday.com/news/world/joran-van-der-sloot-enters-court-for-murder-trial-1.3432977
Joran van der Sloot enters court for murder trial
January 6, 2012


Photo credit: AP | Joran Van der Sloot, center, enters the courtroom for the start of his murder trial held at the San Jorge prison in Lima, Peru. (Jan. 6, 2012)



 
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« Reply #161 on: January 06, 2012, 11:22:37 AM »

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« Reply #162 on: January 06, 2012, 11:25:06 AM »

Adjourn to January 11th at 11 am.
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« Reply #163 on: January 06, 2012, 11:26:35 AM »

Trial has been postponed until Jan. 11th  ::boxingjoran::  ::boxingjoran::

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« Reply #164 on: January 06, 2012, 11:28:01 AM »

http://www.facebook.com/InSession

BREAKING NEWS: #JoranvanderSloot's trial was suspended. The panel says court will resume January 11.
Like · Comment · @InSession on Twitter · a few seconds ago via Twitter.


‎#JoranvanderSloot's potential fine is $200,000 soles, which is over $74,000 in US currency.


The prosecution requests a 30 year sentence for #JoranvanderSloot
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« Reply #165 on: January 06, 2012, 11:28:02 AM »

Thank you everyone for the links, articles and info!  I'm holding onto hope there will be justice.   ::justice2NJ::
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« Reply #166 on: January 06, 2012, 11:31:27 AM »

What I understand from comments on other sites is that Joran wants time to consider if wants to plea guilty or not.
I understand that he wanted to confess but not at the exact complaint of the prosecutor.
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« Reply #167 on: January 06, 2012, 11:31:42 AM »

Postponed.................. geez...........
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« Reply #168 on: January 06, 2012, 11:32:46 AM »

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#JoranvanderSloot's potential fine is $200,000 soles, which is over $74,000 in US currency.
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The prosecution requests a 30 year sentence for #JoranvanderSloot
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#JoranvanderSloot is standing while the prosecutor gives his opening statement.
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@InSession When they make the movie i think Ben Foster would be perfect to play Joran...Just saying
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#JoranvanderSloot is requesting for the prosecutor to speak slowly because he is having a hard time understanding.
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The prosecutor wants to introduce new evidence including an overheard conversation b/w #JoranvanderSloot and Stephany Flores.
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#JoranvanderSloot's translators are for English and Dutch.
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The panel is talking to #JoranvanderSloot about the use of the interpreters.
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Interpreters for #JoranvanderSloot are taking the oath.
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The panel of judges just entered court and trial is underway for #JoranvanderSloot
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#JoranvanderSloot in court NOW! Tune in! If he pleads guilty today, sentencing occurs next week.
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Tune in NOW! We're LIVE in Peru for #JoranvanderSloot's murder trial.
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Less than 10 MINS until we're LIVE from Peru hlntv.com/article/2012/0…
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StephanyFlores fam told @InSession“The family will be content with whatever the outcome is today,and whatever sentence the judges decide.”
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Tune in now! #JoranvanderSloot's interpreter talks about his confession, police interrogation.
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Tune in all day as we air Jean Casarez’s EXCLUSIVE interview with #JoranvanderSloot’s attorney. LIVE trial starts in 30mins!
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Giovanna Gismondi says the judges will decide if this is a “sincere confession” from #JoranvanderSloot based on the amount of evidence.
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Giovanna Gismondi says #JoranvanderSloot will face a panel of three judges. The judges will determine if this is a “sincere confession.”
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#JoranvanderSloot's trial may be a no go! His attorney says he will plead guilty to all charges against him for strangling a Peruvian girl
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« Reply #169 on: January 06, 2012, 11:33:45 AM »

What I understand from comments on other sites is that Joran wants time to consider if wants to plea guilty or not.
I understand that he wanted to confess but not at the exact complaint of the prosecutor.

Hmmm.     I wonder what Joran's up to  now. 
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« Reply #170 on: January 06, 2012, 11:34:44 AM »

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Joran van der Sloot does NOT plead guilty...given more time - back in court Jan 11...
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« Reply #171 on: January 06, 2012, 11:35:22 AM »

Postponed.................. geez...........

I know what you mean CBB.     But it's a Sloot, so no surprise really.
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« Reply #172 on: January 06, 2012, 11:35:27 AM »

What I understand from comments on other sites is that Joran wants time to consider if wants to plea guilty or not.
I understand that he wanted to confess but not at the exact complaint of the prosecutor.

 

Joran van der Sloot to Begin Peru Murder Trial
Published January 05, 2012


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Prosecutors are seeking a 30-year prison sentence for Van der Sloot on murder and theft charges in a trial that will be held at Lima's Lurigancho prison. He is accused of murdering Flores with "ferocity and great cruelty," and prosecutors say he also stole 600 soles, about $220, from the victim.

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The defense will argue that Van der Sloot killed Flores in a state of emotional distress.

"We will challenge the aggravating factors (charged by the prosecution) and seek to reduce the charge from first-degree murder to simple homicide," Jimenez said. That charge carries a prison sentence of from eight to 20 years.

He said his client, whose prominent lawyer father died of a heart attack on an Aruba tennis court in February 2010, was in a fragile state from years of being under suspicion for Holloway's presumed death and other legal problems stemming from that case.

"The killing was impromptu. There was no planning to carry it out," Jimenez said.

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/05/joran-van-der-sloot-to-begin-peru-murder-trial/
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« Reply #173 on: January 06, 2012, 11:36:59 AM »

What I understand from comments on other sites is that Joran wants time to consider if wants to plea guilty or not.
I understand that he wanted to confess but not at the exact complaint of the prosecutor.

Hmmm.     I wonder what Joran's up to  now. 

He is up to something...he was all smiles as he was leaving the courtroom.
He knew the outcome of the day before he entered the courtroom.
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« Reply #174 on: January 06, 2012, 11:38:01 AM »

Postponed.................. geez...........

 
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« Reply #175 on: January 06, 2012, 11:39:20 AM »

What I understand from comments on other sites is that Joran wants time to consider if wants to plea guilty or not.
I understand that he wanted to confess but not at the exact complaint of the prosecutor.

Hmmm.     I wonder what Joran's up to  now. 

He is up to something...he was all smiles as he was leaving the courtroom.
He knew the outcome of the day before he entered the courtroom.
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« Reply #176 on: January 06, 2012, 11:40:21 AM »

Postponed.................. geez...........

I know what you mean CBB.     But it's a Sloot, so no surprise really.

I know, Muffy. I'm not discouraged, really. Joran stepped in it this time and he's not going anywhere but back to prison. Whether it's for 30 years or to serve a life sentence, it will be for the duration of his life, IMO.

I have to believe that after the trial, his prison experience will change drastically. I still believe that the Flores family, if nothing else, have enough influence to insure that his time spent there is to their liking.
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« Reply #177 on: January 06, 2012, 11:41:23 AM »

What I understand from comments on other sites is that Joran wants time to consider if wants to plea guilty or not.
I understand that he wanted to confess but not at the exact complaint of the prosecutor.

 

Joran van der Sloot to Begin Peru Murder Trial
Published January 05, 2012


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Prosecutors are seeking a 30-year prison sentence for Van der Sloot on murder and theft charges in a trial that will be held at Lima's Lurigancho prison. He is accused of murdering Flores with "ferocity and great cruelty," and prosecutors say he also stole 600 soles, about $220, from the victim.

<snipped>

The defense will argue that Van der Sloot killed Flores in a state of emotional distress.

"We will challenge the aggravating factors (charged by the prosecution) and seek to reduce the charge from first-degree murder to simple homicide," Jimenez said. That charge carries a prison sentence of from eight to 20 years.

He said his client, whose prominent lawyer father died of a heart attack on an Aruba tennis court in February 2010, was in a fragile state from years of being under suspicion for Holloway's presumed death and other legal problems stemming from that case.

"The killing was impromptu. There was no planning to carry it out," Jimenez said.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/05/joran-van-der-sloot-to-begin-peru-murder-trial/


So now he says something like 'the police and prosecuters on Aruba and the press made me do it???!!!11???

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« Reply #178 on: January 06, 2012, 11:42:21 AM »

Vinnie Politan often gets it right, but in this tweet he made earlier, I don't think he really understood WHY it's not such a good think for Joran to plead guilty.  Joran isn't doing this out of the goodness of heart, he's trying cut years off his sentence!

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/06/lawyer-van-der-sloot-to-plead-guilty-in-peruvian-womans-death/
Lawyer: Van der Sloot to plead guilty in Peruvian woman's death
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In a last-minute defense strategy change, Joran van der Sloot is expected to plead guilty to all the charges against him in connection with the killing of a Peruvian woman, his lawyer told CNN Friday.

The original plan going into the trial, which was set to begin Friday, was to admit to killing 21-year-old Stephany Flores, but to fight more stringent charges that could land him more time in prison, attorney Luis Jimenez said.

Jimenez said the intention of the new strategy is to give a "sincere confession," which under Peruvian law can qualify him for a more lenient sentence.

If van der Sloot goes forward with this approach, he could be sentenced as early as next week.

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Joran Van der Sloot's atty says he will plead guilty to all charges as presented! Sounds like good news... We'll see what happens
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« Reply #179 on: January 06, 2012, 11:46:01 AM »

I could be wrong BUT, I think Joran's smiles were about being arrogant and being forced in a situation where there will actually be consequences. IMO, he's very aware of the satisfaction most people will get out of seeing him held accountable and the smiles and nodding off were a feeble attempt to portray that he's not really effected by what goes on around him.

It's a thin facade.............. he hates this and is probably jelly inside. He's a coward at heart.

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