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Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 - 1/13/12 (Read 405804 times)
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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January 11, 2012, 11:04:35 AM »
Quote from: MuffyBee on January 11, 2012, 11:03:07 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/11/world/americas/peru-van-der-sloot/?hpt=hp_t2
Van der Sloot returns to court to face murder charge
January 11, 2012
(This snippet is about when Joran was in the courtroom previously.)
::snipping2::
During the hearing, a judge criticized van der Sloot for yawning, slouching and showing disrespect to the court.
What people don't know is that he had been transferred to the courthouse at six in the morning and kept in a hot holding cell for four hours, wearing a bulletproof vest and jacket the whole time, Jimenez said. He hadn't slept well because he was nervous about the process and was handcuffed the entire time, he said.
The lawyer asked the court to handle van der Sloot's arrival differently Wednesday, but there were no assurances of that, he said.
::snipping2::
So, it was the judges' fault for his disrespect. Well, this creep isn't responsible for any of his actions, ever.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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January 11, 2012, 11:07:06 AM »
Quote from: KittyMom on January 11, 2012, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: MuffyBee on January 11, 2012, 11:03:07 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/11/world/americas/peru-van-der-sloot/?hpt=hp_t2
Van der Sloot returns to court to face murder charge
January 11, 2012
(This snippet is about when Joran was in the courtroom previously.)
::snipping2::
During the hearing, a judge criticized van der Sloot for yawning, slouching and showing disrespect to the court.
What people don't know is that he had been transferred to the courthouse at six in the morning and kept in a hot holding cell for four hours, wearing a bulletproof vest and jacket the whole time, Jimenez said. He hadn't slept well because he was nervous about the process and was handcuffed the entire time, he said.
The lawyer asked the court to handle van der Sloot's arrival differently Wednesday, but there were no assurances of that, he said.
::snipping2::
So, it was the judges' fault for his disrespect. Well, this creep isn't responsible for any of his actions, ever.
Joran hadn't slept well. I suppose Peru should have put him up at a fine hotel, with a chocolate on his pillow....
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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January 11, 2012, 11:08:16 AM »
The sentence comes down Friday.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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January 11, 2012, 11:09:38 AM »
Quote from: MuffyBee on January 11, 2012, 11:07:06 AM
Quote from: KittyMom on January 11, 2012, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: MuffyBee on January 11, 2012, 11:03:07 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/11/world/americas/peru-van-der-sloot/?hpt=hp_t2
Van der Sloot returns to court to face murder charge
January 11, 2012
(This snippet is about when Joran was in the courtroom previously.)
::snipping2::
During the hearing, a judge criticized van der Sloot for yawning, slouching and showing disrespect to the court.
What people don't know is that he had been transferred to the courthouse at six in the morning and kept in a hot holding cell for four hours, wearing a bulletproof vest and jacket the whole time, Jimenez said. He hadn't slept well because he was nervous about the process and was handcuffed the entire time, he said.
The lawyer asked the court to handle van der Sloot's arrival differently Wednesday, but there were no assurances of that, he said.
::snipping2::
So, it was the judges' fault for his disrespect. Well, this creep isn't responsible for any of his actions, ever.
Joran hadn't slept well. I suppose Peru should have put him up at a fine hotel, with a chocolate on his pillow....
Yeah............. room 103 is cleaned up by now.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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January 11, 2012, 11:11:16 AM »
Ri------gggght!!!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-01-11/peru-murder/52496812/1
Van der Sloot pleads guilty to Peru murder
January 11, 2012
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LIMA, Peru (AP) – Joran van der Sloot pleaded guilty on Wednesday to the 2010 murder of a 21-year-old Peruvian woman he met at a Lima casino who was killed five years to the day of the unsolved disappearance in Aruba of an American teen in which he remains the main suspect.
"Yes, I want to plead guilty. I wanted from the first moment to confess sincerely," he told the court. "I truly am sorry for this act. I feel very bad."
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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Good Day Monkeys
::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::
Glad to hear the POS pleaded guilty!!
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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January 11, 2012, 11:13:33 AM »
InSession In Session
During the break, #JoranvanderSloot exited the courtroom. Stephany Flores' family was not present at the hearing.
6 minutes ago
In Session
InSession In Session
The judge says court is suspended until they come to a conclusion on #JoranvanderSloot's sentence.Sentencing is scheduled for Friday.
9 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/#!/InSession
::boxingjoran::
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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January 11, 2012, 11:14:41 AM »
::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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Quote from: MuffyBee on January 11, 2012, 11:03:07 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/11/world/americas/peru-van-der-sloot/?hpt=hp_t2
Van der Sloot returns to court to face murder charge
January 11, 2012
(This snippet is about when Joran was in the courtroom previously.)
::snipping2::
During the hearing, a judge criticized van der Sloot for yawning, slouching and showing disrespect to the court.
What people don't know is that he had been transferred to the courthouse at six in the morning and kept in a hot holding cell for four hours, wearing a bulletproof vest and jacket the whole time, Jimenez said. He hadn't slept well because he was nervous about the process and was handcuffed the entire time, he said.
The lawyer asked the court to handle van der Sloot's arrival differently Wednesday, but there were no assurances of that, he said.
::snipping2::
aaawwwww poor baby.....he'd better get used to the heat.....
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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January 11, 2012, 11:16:45 AM »
http://globovision.com/news.php?nid=214783
VIDEO
::snipping2::
When asked about his guilt, van der Sloot told the judges he wanted to make a "sincere confession", a type of plea that lets you qualify for a reduced sentence, but that does not agree with all charges against him.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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January 11, 2012, 11:17:35 AM »
I think he and KC should be locked in a glass room together and observed by the medical community. Can you imagine?
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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January 11, 2012, 11:19:27 AM »
::snipping2::
After accepting the prosecution of having killed the young Dutchman who preferred to speak Spanish without the support of the translator who was assigned, filed for attorney's fees and therefore the "early termination" of the process, that would allow a reduction of sentence and also enjoy benefits after leaving prison to prison.
::snipping2::
The hearing started late, so that the president of the courtroom, Judge Victoria Montoya, called attention to the defendants for not arriving promptly at the courtroom of Lurigancho.
::snipping2::
http://diariocorreo.pe/nota/62221/joran-van-der-sloot-se-declara-culpable-de-la-muerte-de-stephany-flores/
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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Lima - After today the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot pleaded guilty to the death of the young Stephany Flores (21), the president of the College "B" of the Third Criminal Court for Prison Inmates in the Court of Lima, Victoria Montoya announced that
the sentence against the alien shall be made on Friday January 13th at 10:30 hours.
::snipping2::
Psychopath. Meanwhile, the Flores family lawyer defending the family, Edward Alvarez, called for life imprisonment for Van der Sloot also asked how can they release a psychopath to the streets. "
"There comes a psychopath benefits because it is a risk to society," he said.
http://diariocorreo.pe/nota/62230/este-viernes-dictaran-sentencia-a-van-der-sloot/
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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I suppose you could say three men judges might be unfair too...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45954171/ns/world_news-americas/
Natalee Holloway suspect Joran van der Sloot admits killing woman in Peru
January 11, 2012
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Under Peruvian law, a prison term for a "sincere confession" to a murder is normally much shorter than one for an outright guilty plea. Prosecutors have said van der Sloot robbed and killed Flores before fleeing the scene of a crime to Chile.
But on the first day of his trial in Lima on Friday, he told the court he should not be charged with aggravating circumstances of the murder that could lengthen his sentence.
The 24-year-old Dutch citizen had repeatedly shaken his head as the prosecutor described for the judges how van der Sloot allegedly "brutally" beat and strangled the victim in his Lima hotel room, intending to rob her.
A "sincere confession" to the judges means the trial would quickly enter a sentencing phase and he could spend less than a decade behind bars.
Women judges biased?
The defense has complained that the panel of three judges is made up exclusively of women and might be biased against him.
Peruvian prosecutors were initially expected to try for a sentence of life in prison against van der Sloot. But they had to scale back their plans and are expected to ask for a 30-year term because of sentencing guidelines for murders in which robbery could be the primary motive. The victim's family wants a life sentence.
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Joran Van der Sloot admitted to having murdered Stephany Flores and filed for early termination
VIDEO
http://www.larepublica.pe/11-01-2012/joran-van-der-sloot-acepto-haber-asesinado-stephany-flores
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::snipping2::
"I want to welcome my prior confession. I thought from the beginning always give an honest confession, and I am truly sorry for what I've done. I feel very bad, "Van der Sloot when the judge asked him if he is guilty or innocent.
The other defendants John Williams, John and Carlos Oswaldo Aparcana Euribe Pretil Pisconte not accept the charges against him and the trial will continue for them.
They were indicted for the crime against the public administration, judicial capacity, staff cover against the State, asking for the three penalty of five years in prison for freedom and to pay civil damages soles 10.000 for the state.
http://www.rpp.com.pe/2012-01-11-tribunal-dictara-sentencia-a-joran-van-der-sloot-este-viernes-13-noticia_439686.html
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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This is a great day. What say you now Anita? All you other Aruba denial/cover up creeps? I think these judges will give him enough years to satisfy the people of Peru. Sure, it might be reduced a bit, but I don't think much. And remember, we get him next!
Didn't the press say that the judge would read in court that the United States has filed the paperwork to have him brought here after Peru? Wonder if they will read that on Friday...
FRIDAY THE 13TH!!!!
Going down Joran!
God Bless Stephanie, Natalee, and all their loved ones, included in that, all the Monkeys!
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::snipping2::
According to his lawyer feels Joran himself persecuted by the world. The lawyer said his client "is subject to a deep emotional trauma because of what happened." Van der Sloot refers to the day he killed Flores.
::snipping2::
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/2161/Zaak-Holloway/article/detail/1377001/2012/01/11/Joran-van-der-Sloot-pleit-op-proces-schuldig-aan-alles.dhtml
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http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1012/Binnenland/article/detail/3115964/2012/01/11/Liveblog-Joran-bekent-schuld-en-betuigt-spijt.dhtml
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::snipping2::
16:55
The judge said to have heard enough and want to recess until a ruling. This Friday at 10 hours they will decide.
Hours 4:51 p.m.
Joran, according to his lawyer worked well with the police.
Hours 4:47 p.m.
The defense urges to take the post-traumatic disorder that Joran has accumulated. According to his lawyer feels Joran himself persecuted by the world.
Hours 4:44 p.m.
Joran's lawyer takes the case Natalee Holloway there, but the family lawyer Flores does not want to know. "That's not an issue.
Hours 4:40 p.m.
Joran agreed to the indictment. This means that the process probably very soon will come to an end.
Hours 4:39 p.m.
The drivers say three accused to be innocent.
Hours 4:38 p.m.
"Will you at your last confession?, Asks the judge. Yes, Joran says.
Hours 4:37 p.m.
The judges ask him in Spanish or Dutch will respond. Joran says he wants to try it in Spanish.
Hours 4:34 p.m.
The court asks if the next time you want to be on time.
Hours 4:23 p.m.
Consultation between Joran and his lawyer takes an unusually long.
Hours 4:12 p.m.
At the prison in Lima where the trial of Joran van der Sloot resumes, are people with banners bearing the text: "murderer" and "he should get life."
Hours 4:10 p.m.
The lawyer has now arrived. He goes to Joran to separate room for consultation.
Hours 4:03 p.m.
The trial begins 10 to 15 minutes later. Joran's lawyer is not because of traffic problems. There were many demonstrations in Lima today.
Hours 4:01 p.m.
You are asked if anyone wants to turn off his mobile phone.
Hours 3:55 p.m.
Joran enters the room. He looks better than last week. This time, he has no bulletproof vest.
Hours 3:46 p.m.
According to GPD correspondent Jan-Albert Hootsen is all quieter than in the Lurigancho prison last Friday. The family of Stephany Flores is currently not present in the courtroom.
::snipping2::
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1012/Binnenland/article/detail/3115964/2012/01/11/Liveblog-Joran-bekent-schuld-en-betuigt-spijt.dhtml
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