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Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 - 1/13/12 (Read 403788 times)
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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Quote from: KittyMom on January 11, 2012, 10:30:51 AM
Is that a cross on the Judges table?
It is. So isn't a "sincere confession" one that begins "I have sinned through MY OWN FAULT" and not try to blame everybody else in the whole world? Mea culpa! That is all.
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Also noted he is not wearing the hot bullet proof vest. Shirt not tucked in when leaving the courtroom either. It's not as though he is not used to the heat from Aruba.
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http://www.versgeperst.com/nieuws/136550/joran-van-der-sloot-heeft-bekend.html
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::snipping2::
"Murder result of" extreme psychological trauma
Van der Sloot was a calm impression, but his confession and apology to the assembled press were poorly understood. According to AP Van der Sloot said in court today:
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His lawyer Jimenez Navarro said the judges today on account of the circumstances, such as the media attention around the person of Van der Sloot has been. The counsel expressed the wish that the judges take this into account when they consider the sentences in which Van der Sloot confession to his eligibility.
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http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2012/01/11/joran-van-der-sloot-zal-schuld-niet-ontkennen-in-ruil-voor-strafvermindering/
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Flores family
The Flores family lawyer said after the hearing that the confession of Van der Sloot nothing. "He still has not said how and under what circumstances he has slain her. Moreover, the cooperation is also not so bad, because in the beginning, he has greatly frustrated the investigation."
"We will never accept it if he gets a sentence of 20 years," said the lawyer.
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http://nos.nl/artikel/329897-joran-van-der-sloot-bekent-schuld.html
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http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail.aspx?artikelid=DMF20120111_140#
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http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/2712848/joran-van-sloot-bekent.html#
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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A Timeline
Van der Sloot pleads guilty, says he is 'really sorry' for Peru woman's murder
January 11th, 2012
11:00 AM ET
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/11/van-der-sloot-in-court-for-murder-trial-will-he-plead-guilty-to-charges/
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LIMA (Reuters) - Joran is a psychopath who can not return to society. That is lawyer Edward Alvarez of the Flores family. He said in a press conference immediately following the session in which Van der Sloot declared guilty of the charges.
According to Alvarez, it was clear that Van der Sloot Stephany Flores killed in order to rob her of her money. , And that's what life, "he said emphatically. When asked whether he would appeal if Van der Sloot sentences given, he would not respond. But he argued that a sentence of 20 years is enough. The 20 year option as mentioned in the verdict that the three judges eventually sheets.
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In an emotional speech, Van der Sloot's lawyer tried after his confession to prove that he was the day of the murder was dominated by a deep psychological trauma. Apparently the judges to move to a lighter punishment. But he did not get much space as this type of argument in the court today passed a station. Van der Sloot is guilty of the charges.
http://www.rnw.nl/caribiana/bulletin/advocaat-flores-joran-een-psychopaat
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 -
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Quote from: MuffyBee on January 11, 2012, 11:11:16 AM
Ri------gggght!!!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-01-11/peru-murder/52496812/1
Van der Sloot pleads guilty to Peru murder
January 11, 2012
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LIMA, Peru (AP) – Joran van der Sloot pleaded guilty on Wednesday to the 2010 murder of a 21-year-old Peruvian woman he met at a Lima casino who was killed five years to the day of the unsolved disappearance in Aruba of an American teen in which he remains the main suspect.
"Yes, I want to plead guilty. I wanted from the first moment to confess sincerely," he told the court. "I truly am sorry for this act. I feel very bad."
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Sorry Joran you POS, that statement isn't consistent with someone who fled the scene, and country
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Well, regardless of his sentence, the only place Joran will go is straight to Alabama to face a federal charge of extortion which if I remember correctly carries a sentence of 25 years. If he EVER gets out, he is going to be a very old man should he survive prison conditions which I doubt.
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::snipping2::
After the hearing, Van der Sloot spoke briefly with his lawyer. She smiled and looked unconcerned, as television footage showed.
The prosecution had asked for 30 years in prison for murdering Van der Sloot with cruelty in May 2010 at the University Stephany Flores 21.
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Upon acceptance of the prosecution's charges, Van der Sloot will be sentenced for murder, punishable with 15 to 35 years in prison.
http://www.elcolombiano.com/BancoConocimiento/H/holandes_se_declaro_culpable_de_asesinar_a_peruana/holandes_se_declaro_culpable_de_asesinar_a_peruana.asp?CodSeccion=189
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Quote from: blah on January 11, 2012, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: MuffyBee on January 11, 2012, 11:11:16 AM
Ri------gggght!!!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-01-11/peru-murder/52496812/1
Van der Sloot pleads guilty to Peru murder
January 11, 2012
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LIMA, Peru (AP) – Joran van der Sloot pleaded guilty on Wednesday to the 2010 murder of a 21-year-old Peruvian woman he met at a Lima casino who was killed five years to the day of the unsolved disappearance in Aruba of an American teen in which he remains the main suspect.
"Yes, I want to plead guilty. I wanted from the first moment to confess sincerely," he told the court. "I truly am sorry for this act. I feel very bad."
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Sorry Joran you POS, that statement isn't consistent with someone who fled the scene, and country
Blah!! Great to see you!!
I'm at work and work keeps getting in my way!
Joran looked really bad this morning! Jinkasaurus said that when he went to prison, he had some good looking clothes. Wonder what happened to them?
Thanks for all the articles, NR!!
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Quote from: Northern Rose on January 11, 2012, 11:41:07 AM
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Hours 4:47 p.m.
The defense urges to take the post-traumatic disorder that Joran has accumulated. According to his lawyer feels Joran himself persecuted by the world.
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I dont know how it works in Peru, but if his lawyer wants to bring up the Natalee case, the judges should be able to use all the evidence available about the multiple lies he admitted to telling in that case. They should be able to use that to weigh against the sincerity of his "sincere confession"
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Quote from: Northern Rose on January 11, 2012, 12:07:19 PM
Geez his head looks like a giant zit about to burst sitting on top of his shoulders, what a freak
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Quote from: Northern Rose on January 11, 2012, 12:10:05 PM
http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/2712848/joran-van-sloot-bekent.html#
the face of a cold-blooded conniving narcissistic killer!
It will be interesting to see how Aruba spins this confession too - of course liar island will work overtime to deflect.
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Quote from: CBB on January 11, 2012, 12:24:28 PM
Blah!! Great to see you!!
I'm at work and work keeps getting in my way!
Joran looked really bad this morning! Jinkasaurus said that when he went to prison, he had some good looking clothes. Wonder what happened to them?
Thanks for all the articles, NR!!
Hiya CBB
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Quote from: Anna on January 11, 2012, 12:22:18 PM
Well, regardless of his sentence, the only place Joran will go is straight to Alabama to face a federal charge of extortion which if I remember correctly carries a sentence of 25 years. If he EVER gets out, he is going to be a very old man should he survive prison conditions which I doubt.
I believe you're right Anna. I have a feeling the judges will not want to be perceived as being like Aruba!
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Judged by 3 women.
Priceless.
I hope he gets the maximum time in that hell hole and survives to come to America and die in an Alabama prison. Then I will be satisfied.
What a POS.
Justice for Natalee.
Justice for Stephany.
Carry on and come across
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Quote from: nonesuche on January 11, 2012, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: Northern Rose on January 11, 2012, 12:10:05 PM
http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/2712848/joran-van-sloot-bekent.html#
the face of a cold-blooded conniving narcissistic killer!
It will be interesting to see how Aruba spins this confession too - of course liar island will work overtime to deflect.
Wonder how he got that cut above his eyebrow?
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