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Author Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #862 12/23/11 - 1/13/12  (Read 91015 times)
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« Reply #860 on: January 13, 2012, 01:00:06 PM »

It's said that whatever the sentence is, doesn't mean that he won't necessarily be imprisoned for that long.

I say that 28 years is not enough for murder!

I agree.  Then when you consider Peru's liberal "reduction credits" ... the actual sentence will be much less.  However ... the realization that Joran will be held in a Peruvian lockup for the foreseeable future is a measure of justice for Stephany Flores.  At this moment in time "other" Stephanys and Natalees are not at risk.

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« Reply #861 on: January 13, 2012, 01:01:55 PM »



THANK YOU PERU JUSTICE SYSTEM

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« Reply #862 on: January 13, 2012, 01:02:59 PM »

It's said that whatever the sentence is, doesn't mean that he won't necessarily be imprisoned for that long.

I say that 28 years is not enough for murder!

I agree.  Then when you consider Peru's liberal "reduction credits" ... the actual sentence will be much less.  However ... the realization that Joran will be held in a Peruvian lockup for the foreseeable future is a measure of justice for Stephany Flores.  At this moment in time "other" Stephanys and Natalees are not at risk.

Janet


Just remember sweet Alabama has nabs on him next!!!!

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« Reply #863 on: January 13, 2012, 01:06:47 PM »



http://www.rpp.com.pe/2012-01-13-la-sentencia-a-joran-van-der-sloot-en-imagenes-foto_440464_7.html#swfplayer
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« Reply #864 on: January 13, 2012, 01:07:11 PM »

It's said that whatever the sentence is, doesn't mean that he won't necessarily be imprisoned for that long.

I say that 28 years is not enough for murder!

I agree.  Then when you consider Peru's liberal "reduction credits" ... the actual sentence will be much less.  However ... the realization that Joran will be held in a Peruvian lockup for the foreseeable future is a measure of justice for Stephany Flores.  At this moment in time "other" Stephanys and Natalees are not at risk.

Janet


Just remember sweet Alabama has nabs on him next!!!!




 
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« Reply #865 on: January 13, 2012, 01:11:34 PM »



http://www.gva.be/nieuws/buitenland/aid1106696/joran-van-der-sloot-28-jaar-naar-de-gevangenis.aspx
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« Reply #866 on: January 13, 2012, 01:11:44 PM »

It's said that whatever the sentence is, doesn't mean that he won't necessarily be imprisoned for that long.

I say that 28 years is not enough for murder!

Refresh my memory please. Why was life not on the table?


My take is that the prosecution determined that the murder of Stephany Flores was not premeditated.  Premeditation would have implied a charged that carried a life sentence.

Janet

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Prosecution Charges

Peru to beef up Joran van der Sloot charges
Published on 17 September 2011 - 3:38pm


At the first public hearing, on 12 September 2011, Mr Van der Sloot was charged with murder and robbery. The Public Prosecutor called for a 30-year jail sentence and damages of 50,000 euros.

The lawyer for the victim’s family said the charges should not be “murder followed by robbery” but “robbery followed by murder”, which carries a life sentence. He also rejected the 50,000 euro compensation as insufficient.

The judge hearing the case has instructed the Public Prosecutor to reformulate the charges, which will delay the trial.

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http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/peru-beef-joran-van-der-sloot-charges
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« Reply #867 on: January 13, 2012, 01:14:06 PM »

Screen cap I took from live feed after they had Joran stand up for his sentence reading:

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« Reply #868 on: January 13, 2012, 01:14:50 PM »


Good Shot, Northern. That captures what I saw after the sentence came down!

Joran's not having a good day. 
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« Reply #869 on: January 13, 2012, 01:15:03 PM »



hours 6:31 p.m.
 The live blog has been closed.

 hours 6:26 p.m.
 The father of Stephany Flores gives a press conference. He says that an inquiry into the privileges that would have Joran in jail. "A prison is not a five star hotel".

 hours 6:21 p.m.
 Joran must leave the court. The judge later suspended for the case against the taxi drivers to continue.

 18:20
 Joran consults briefly with his lawyer.

 hours 6:18 p.m.
 Joran is immediately after serving his sentence deported to the Netherlands.

 hours 6:16 p.m.
 The sentence: 28 years in prison. He is due on June 10, 2038 Fri deduction of custody.

 hours 6:11 p.m.
 Joran to 200,000 soles (Peruvian currency) to pay compensation to the family of Stephany. That's more than 58,000 euros.

 hours 6:07 p.m.
 Joran Peru may be expelled if his sentence has been served, the clerk said.

 18:05
 Correspondent Nina Jurna:

 "Joran Confession can not lead to reduction of sentence, the court says"

 hours 5:58 p.m.
 The reading takes some eighteen hours.

 hours 5:52 p.m.
 It is obvious that Joran not really listen to what the interpreter says. Her translations are not very easy to follow.

 hours 5:46 p.m.
 The clerk said that reductions in the penalty legally possible.

 hours 5:44 p.m.
 It is at least a minimum of 15 years in prison.

 hours 5:43 p.m.
 The punishment is certainly not over 30 years, says the clerk.

 hours 5:40 p.m.
 Joran is now primarily looking at the ground.

 hours 5:37 p.m.
 The judges also keep in mind that Joran has a personality, and therefore easier to kill someone than others.

 hours 5:35 p.m.
 It seems that the judges find that Joran acted on impulse, and not premeditated.

 hours 5:33 p.m.
 The interpreter of Joran gradually gets difficult.

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http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2012/01_januari/13/binnenland/liveblog-uitspraak-joran.xml
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« Reply #870 on: January 13, 2012, 01:16:10 PM »

It's said that whatever the sentence is, doesn't mean that he won't necessarily be imprisoned for that long.

I say that 28 years is not enough for murder!

I agree.  Then when you consider Peru's liberal "reduction credits" ... the actual sentence will be much less.  However ... the realization that Joran will be held in a Peruvian lockup for the foreseeable future is a measure of justice for Stephany Flores.  At this moment in time "other" Stephanys and Natalees are not at risk.

Janet


Just remember sweet Alabama has nabs on him next!!!!



Ribbit!!

In 28 years ... I may be pushing up daisies but the event will cause my family to sit back and reflect on Mama's addiction to the Natalee Holloway case.

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« Reply #871 on: January 13, 2012, 01:16:39 PM »

Screen cap I took from live feed after they had Joran stand up for his sentence reading:



Yeah, and he kept shaking his head "no" shortly after it was read.
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« Reply #872 on: January 13, 2012, 01:16:49 PM »



http://nos.nl/artikel/330444-joran-van-der-sloot-krijgt-28-jaar-cel.html
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« Reply #873 on: January 13, 2012, 01:17:24 PM »

Joran finally has a criminal record--murderer!  ::justice2NJ::
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« Reply #874 on: January 13, 2012, 01:19:54 PM »

Screen cap I took from live feed after they had Joran stand up for his sentence reading:



Yeah, and he kept shaking his head "no" shortly after it was read.

He sure did.  Reality bites!! 
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« Reply #875 on: January 13, 2012, 01:20:12 PM »









http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/article/detail/3120242/2012/01/13/Liveblog-Buitenlander-Joran-moet-na-zijn-straf-Peru-uit.dhtml
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« Reply #876 on: January 13, 2012, 01:21:00 PM »


Joran's reaction the moment he heard he was sentenced to 28 years in a Peru prison
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« Reply #877 on: January 13, 2012, 01:23:00 PM »


Joran began shaking his head back and forth NO NO as if in disbelief that he is being sentenced to 28 YEARS

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« Reply #878 on: January 13, 2012, 01:26:26 PM »

Joran finally has a criminal record--murderer!  ::justice2NJ::


MOORDENAAR - the dutchman Joran van der Sloot
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« Reply #879 on: January 13, 2012, 01:26:57 PM »

Some good images in this slideshow

http://www.hartvannederland.nl/nederland/2012/28-jaar-cel-voor-joran-van-der-sloot/
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