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« Reply #280 on: October 22, 2011, 10:48:38 PM »

I am speechless after listening to Taco and Meathead on Justice with Judge Jeanine..

       All we need now is Geraldo.   
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« Reply #281 on: October 22, 2011, 10:50:10 PM »

Who has a 63 yr old carpet!? Wow!
Besides that house was built it 1958 he calc wrong.
You would think that thy can tell if its that old?

When you see the pic of it doesn't look stained on bottem?
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« Reply #282 on: October 22, 2011, 10:57:14 PM »

I was searching a little looking for recent news from today on baby Lisa, when I came across this article

Geraldo on Search for Baby Lisa Irwin: “It’s Virtually Impossible This Is Not an Inside Job”
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/14/geraldo-on-search-for-baby-lisa-irwin-%e2%80%9cit%e2%80%99s-virtually-impossible-this-is-not-an-inside-job%e2%80%9d/

Wonder if he is trying to redeem himself after CA 

He's shrewdly changing positions for the camera.  What is so galling to me is his smugness.
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« Reply #283 on: October 22, 2011, 10:57:17 PM »

I am speechless after listening to Taco and Meathead on Justice with Judge Jeanine..

       All we need now is Geraldo.   

No-o-o-o-o!!!   Not him!   I expect him any time, though.   
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« Reply #284 on: October 22, 2011, 11:01:04 PM »

I am speechless after listening to Taco and Meathead on Justice with Judge Jeanine..

       All we need now is Geraldo.   

No-o-o-o-o!!!   Not him!   I expect him any time, though.   
Well looks like he has started talking about the case, and doesnt sound like its for the parents side either i just couldnt take reading anything that person says since CA's case  But looks like hes here
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« Reply #285 on: October 22, 2011, 11:18:34 PM »

O/T...

Posted: Oct 22, 2011 9:45 PM EDT Updated: Oct 22, 2011 10:46 PM EDT
Posted by Jessica Turri

DOVER, TN (WSMV) -

Police in Stewart County are searching for a missing 5 year old boy who was last seen playing outside near his home around 4:30 p.m.

Officials say Aidan Bennett was last seen near the 900 block of Link Road in Dover.

He has dirty blond hair, weighs 35 lbs., and was last seen wearing a blue and black long sleeve shirt, dark brown windbreaker pants, and no shoes.

Anyone with  information is urged to call the Stewart County Sheriff's Department at 931-232-5322.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/15786451/police-seraching-for-missing-boy
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« Reply #286 on: October 22, 2011, 11:21:41 PM »

I am speechless after listening to Taco and Meathead on Justice with Judge Jeanine..

       All we need now is Geraldo.   

No-o-o-o-o!!!   Not him!   I expect him any time, though.   

LOL - he's timing his appearances I bet - waiting to spring!   Can our nerves take it is the big question.
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« Reply #287 on: October 22, 2011, 11:28:16 PM »

I'm still going with the two half brothers of Lisa's know the missing puzzle pieces.

I also tend to discount the validity of the "stranger carrying baby down the street in the night" stories.  Maybe these are
mis-guided friends of the Irwins trying to bolster the kidnapping scenario thinking they are helping ???
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« Reply #288 on: October 22, 2011, 11:33:24 PM »

Actual scientific study regarding cadaver dogs here: http://www.pawsoflife.org/Library/HRD/Oesterhelweg%201998.pdf

Accuracy varies from 75%-90%... meaning if this were a real-life situation, 10-25% of the time, the dog would be wrong.

And there's potentially far greater dog error in real-life situations, because in the study, the dogs only had two possibilities - scented-with-dead-person, or not-scented-with-dead-person.

There *are* other scents that yes, the dogs will smell - and they will give a false "positive" for, just as if they *were* smelling a decomposed body. Menstrual blood is one of these things. In that case, the dog isn't wrong - it IS identifying a scent. It's just close enough to what they've been taught to seek that they cannot differentiate.

I'd be curious to see real-life statistics of how often a hit is confirmed to be a true hit; problem is, law enforcement won't permit that to happen. They'd claim secrecy was necessary to preserve cases, of course, but really, they just wouldn't want to lose the power to pressure via public belief in questionable "science".
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« Reply #289 on: October 22, 2011, 11:38:04 PM »

I'm still going with the two half brothers of Lisa's know the missing puzzle pieces.

I also tend to discount the validity of the "stranger carrying baby down the street in the night" stories.  Maybe these are
mis-guided friends of the Irwins trying to bolster the kidnapping scenario thinking they are helping ???

I agree.. Who is going to kidnap a child and be walking down a street with a child dressed in just a diaper in plain sight....
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« Reply #290 on: October 22, 2011, 11:56:14 PM »

O/T...

Posted: Oct 22, 2011 9:45 PM EDT Updated: Oct 22, 2011 10:46 PM EDT
Posted by Jessica Turri

DOVER, TN (WSMV) -

Police in Stewart County are searching for a missing 5 year old boy who was last seen playing outside near his home around 4:30 p.m.

Officials say Aidan Bennett was last seen near the 900 block of Link Road in Dover.

He has dirty blond hair, weighs 35 lbs., and was last seen wearing a blue and black long sleeve shirt, dark brown windbreaker pants, and no shoes.

Anyone with  information is urged to call the Stewart County Sheriff's Department at 931-232-5322.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/15786451/police-seraching-for-missing-boy
Thanks Jersey~
Good news for a change:
FOUND SAFE

Missing Stewart County boy found safe

Posted: Oct 22, 2011 8:45 PM CDT Updated: Oct 22, 2011 10:39 PM CDT
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http://www.wsmv.com/story/15786451/missing-boy
DOVER, TN (WSMV) -

Police in Stewart County have safely located the 5 year old boy who went missing near his home in Dover Saturday afternoon.

Aidan Bennett was last seen near the 900 block of Link Road in Dover around 4:30 p.m.
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« Reply #291 on: October 23, 2011, 12:02:52 AM »

I'm still going with the two half brothers of Lisa's know the missing puzzle pieces.

I also tend to discount the validity of the "stranger carrying baby down the street in the night" stories.  Maybe these are
mis-guided friends of the Irwins trying to bolster the kidnapping scenario thinking they are helping ???


It's strange the police are not even questioning the other children who were present.  I don't recall ever seeing that happen before.
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« Reply #292 on: October 23, 2011, 12:07:33 AM »

I'm still going with the two half brothers of Lisa's know the missing puzzle pieces.

I also tend to discount the validity of the "stranger carrying baby down the street in the night" stories.  Maybe these are
mis-guided friends of the Irwins trying to bolster the kidnapping scenario thinking they are helping ???


It's strange the police are not even questioning the other children who were present.  I don't recall ever seeing that happen before.
Parents won't let them.  LE has no choice.
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« Reply #293 on: October 23, 2011, 12:36:06 AM »

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« Reply #294 on: October 23, 2011, 02:39:41 AM »

Actual scientific study regarding cadaver dogs here: http://www.pawsoflife.org/Library/HRD/Oesterhelweg%201998.pdf

Accuracy varies from 75%-90%... meaning if this were a real-life situation, 10-25% of the time, the dog would be wrong.

And there's potentially far greater dog error in real-life situations, because in the study, the dogs only had two possibilities - scented-with-dead-person, or not-scented-with-dead-person.

There *are* other scents that yes, the dogs will smell - and they will give a false "positive" for, just as if they *were* smelling a decomposed body. Menstrual blood is one of these things. In that case, the dog isn't wrong - it IS identifying a scent. It's just close enough to what they've been taught to seek that they cannot differentiate.

I'd be curious to see real-life statistics of how often a hit is confirmed to be a true hit; problem is, law enforcement won't permit that to happen. They'd claim secrecy was necessary to preserve cases, of course, but really, they just wouldn't want to lose the power to pressure via public belief in questionable "science".
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Now there'shere I must disagree with ypou.  LE are not the only people that use cadaver dogs..many times in the missing person cases here private individuals and groups ave used their dogs ..and they all seem to detect the same thing.  So just because these dogs are used by LE does not change the end result.  I trust the dogs..they are right.even by your stats.. more then they are wrong.  And they have been invaluable over the years in soving crimes and locating bodies..
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« Reply #295 on: October 23, 2011, 02:53:55 AM »

Who has a 63 yr old carpet!? Wow!

Oh I needed that laugh this morning!  Thank you so much! 

*still chuckling*

Sad thing is after all this time we all need a little laugh.  This whole story is just so heartbreaking.

Hang in there everyone!

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« Reply #296 on: October 23, 2011, 03:06:33 AM »

O/T...

Posted: Oct 22, 2011 9:45 PM EDT Updated: Oct 22, 2011 10:46 PM EDT
Posted by Jessica Turri

DOVER, TN (WSMV) -

Police in Stewart County are searching for a missing 5 year old boy who was last seen playing outside near his home around 4:30 p.m.

Officials say Aidan Bennett was last seen near the 900 block of Link Road in Dover.

He has dirty blond hair, weighs 35 lbs., and was last seen wearing a blue and black long sleeve shirt, dark brown windbreaker pants, and no shoes.

Anyone with  information is urged to call the Stewart County Sheriff's Department at 931-232-5322.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/15786451/police-seraching-for-missing-boy

I swear this world is going crazy!  Desperate for a kid?  go through infertility, adopt or get a puppy.  Mad at your spouse? Get a divorce.  Depressed? Meds  Weird "urges"? Castration.  Need money?  McDonald's is hiring.  Good grief.
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« Reply #297 on: October 23, 2011, 03:08:07 AM »

Who has a 63 yr old carpet!? Wow!

my mother in law!  It's actually from 1970.  She literally has it professionally cleaned every 6 months.  It's a beautiful orange/brown shag (no joke)
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« Reply #298 on: October 23, 2011, 03:33:49 AM »

invaluable over the years in soving crimes and locating bodies..

They *can* be valuable in suggesting an area for further investigation, but they are by no means foolproof, and data - actual fact, as opposed to popular opinion - says that cadaver dogs are at best, embryonic science, and at worst, pseudoscience.

I appreciate the passion present here, but there isn't much in the way of hard facts to go on, and the facts are what counts.

When the best case scenario is that dogs are only wrong 1/4 of the time in ideal circumstances where there is no possibility of ambiguous scents, it's not reasonable to assume the answer has been found.

Also, if anyone has any details on what dog group it was that brought in at least one cocker spaniel, I'd be interested in hearing more details. I'm curious what they had that dog searching for, since so far, I haven't found anything to suggest that cockers are used as cadaver dogs - drug sniffers, food- product sniffers, even money sniffers - and I'm curious what else they were looking for.
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« Reply #299 on: October 23, 2011, 05:06:15 AM »

She says she is taking anti-anxiety meds. Then she tells us she is taking effexor. Effexor is an anti-depressant. I want to know which Benzo she is using. Which is it DB? ativan or xanax. She doesn't care to reveal that part.

One thing is for sure...no sane person would ever mix a benzo w/alcohol. It is like holding a gun to your head and playing Russian Roulette.
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