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« Reply #800 on: October 26, 2011, 08:40:34 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/26/justice/missouri-missing-girl/index.html
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But the attorney representing Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley, parents of 11-month-old Lisa Irwin, said the couple is not opposed to separate interviews, but do not want what police requested -- an unrestricted interview with no attorneys present.

"Being questioned separately is not the issue," said attorney Cyndy Short. She said the couple has been cooperative and has previously been interviewed separately as well as together. They don't mind being interviewed separately as long as the detectives are fair, open-minded and non-accusatory, she said.



Is there something wrong with detectives being fair, open-minded and non-accusatory?  Not in my opinion.

Not imo nothing wrong with open minds from the get go, I'm still on the fence watching the media circus and LE ... not sure what to say about it.. any of it yet.
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« Reply #801 on: October 26, 2011, 08:41:43 PM »

Wow starshadow...tell us how you really feel.  Anyhow, I hope that you aren't pointing a finger at me when I simply made a statement.  A statement regarding the family refusing to be interviewed by the police.  I already explained once (nicely at that) that I was actually making a point in regards to they called police and initiated all of this and THEN they want to stop talking.  We don't know that they are being bullied by them...that is being implied.  I have seen where LE is following other leads as well.  So until I see evidence of that then I will stick with them needing to do whatever it takes to find their daughter...even if that means taking bullets (as DB said).  Never did I myself say that they should be bullied into confessing...I don't even know where that came from...oh...wait...I am thinking from their attorney.  I am looking at all sides here...did she do it?  Did he do it?  Did a neighbor do it?  Did some random stranger do it?  Did someone they know do it?  Did some other family member do it?  Hey, all I want is Lisa to be found.  I think they should talk separately...with their attorney there simply to ensure they are being questioned legally.  So for me there is nothing to "get over."  I am also supportive of those on here that are at least trying to figure all of this out.  Being open minded about the many possibilities.
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« Reply #802 on: October 26, 2011, 08:44:57 PM »

Safely in Bed?

KC mom admits she was drunk on night baby vanished
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Bradley told Fox News that she got drunk after she put her children to bed that night and may have blacked out. Asked how much she drank that night and whether it was more than five glasses of wine, she responded, "probably." She said she didn't have more than 10 glasses. Bradley said she frequently drinks heavily at home but only after her children are safely in bed. She also said she takes anxiety medication and had taken a dose that day.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44928182/ns/us_news/


Watching a Movie?

Deborah Bradley: I Was Probably Drunk When Baby Lisa Disappeared
By Jeff Truesdell
Monday October 17, 2011 06:30 AM EDT


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She put Lisa down in her room around 6:40 p.m., she says. Only once more soon afterward did she check on Lisa, finding her standing in her crib before tucking her back in.

Then, as the other children of the two next-door-neighbor moms watched a movie inside, Bradley tapped the box of wine that she'd bought earlier that evening, and she and her friend spent much of the evening chatting outside on the front stoop.

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http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20537543,00.html


Were the boys "safely" in bed while Debbie was drinking or ... were they watching a movie?

It is Debbie's changing stories that makes her suspect in the happenings encompassing the disappearance of her daughter.

Janet

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KC mom admits she was drunk on night baby vanished
updated 10/17/2011 9:01:18 PM ET


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Bradley told police she last saw her daughter, Lisa Irwin, when she checked on her at 10:30 p.m. But Monday, she told NBC's "Today" show she actually last saw Lisa when she put her to bed at 6:40 p.m. She gave no explanation for the modified times.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44928182/ns/us_news/


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« Reply #803 on: October 26, 2011, 09:01:36 PM »

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Seriously, people. The recommendation to stay below the legal limit is that a person drink no more than one drink per hour. If the mom had five drinks during those four or so hours, that's quite possibly not even going to make her tipsy, let alone drunk, especially since she's obviously not stick-thin, and she apparently ate dinner during that time period also. Even if she'd drank the entire ten drinks during that four hour period, it's entirely possibly she'd register right near the legal limit. That's NOT anything close to stumbling drunk. It IS however, highly likely that she felt somewhat tipsy at that point, and that yes, would answer that as "being drunk"... especially with the way it was phrased in the interview. Was she totally out of it? Probably nowhere near. Is falling asleep and sleeping heavily "passing out from being drunk"? No, I wouldn't say so... no more than I'd say falling asleep after taking Tylenol PM would be. (And that stuff leaves me groggy for a solid 24 hours after taking one dose, and I literally cannot wake up for a good six-eight hours after taking it.)
Also, now that I think about it - say she was as over-the-top drunk as some of you think. If she was, she still would have been incapacitated during that first interview that was immediately after the baby was reported missing. It's been said multiple times now, that interview started less than an hour after the baby was reported missing, and that LE was accusing her almost immediately.
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So, had she been sloppy drunk that night, #1, she still would have been during that interview, and if she were guilty, it's very likely she would have already confessed at that point. Yet another reason I don't think she was as "drunk" as some of you think. (And if she wasn't sloppy drunk, then you've lost your reason for the assumption that she's a bad mother.)

Also, #2, it would have been VERY OBVIOUS to the police that she was still inebriated. I doubt the whole early situation would have played out the way it did had she been. She likely would have sat and sobered up in the drunk tank.

Because, #3 - anything she said at that point, while incapacitated, would have been invalid, because she would have been too drunk to understand the Miranda warning. And since they clearly didn't feel the need to wait til she sobered up, that's a pretty good sign that she wasn't drunk.


Starshadow - I snipped the points I wanted to address from your post. I will comment on these parts only because I have experience in the area and want to point somethings out to you.

When I was VERY DRUNK (I have 6.5 years sober) NO ONE except my hubs knew I was drunk. I once convinced an entire room of doctors in an ER that I was sober - when they got the blood test back .28 they redrew it because they were sure it was wrong. I often went to work, school and around town drunk. Almost no one I knew had any idea I was an alcoholic. I would often get up in the morning and my hubs (trying his darnedest to prove to me that I was an alki) would have me blow in a breathalyzer he bought - I would come up WAY over the legal limit - even though I had slept for 10 or 12 hours. I have fooled police, doctors, lawyers, family and friends. I have no doubt that if mom can drink that much wine and still move she can fool people easily about being drunk. The strange thing about us alcoholics is that the more we drink the more sober we seem until we fall over. This women, while I have never met her, sounds like the typical alcoholic - I do not have a problem, nothing wrong with my drinking, it's all about me.

I am not saying that she did drink, just that I would not be surprised if she was stone drunk when hubs came home and woke her up.
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« Reply #804 on: October 26, 2011, 09:02:05 PM »

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« Reply #805 on: October 26, 2011, 09:02:46 PM »

Baby Lisa's Brothers: Interviews and DNA Sampling Scheduled
Oct. 26, 2011


Missing Missouri 11-month-old baby Lisa Irwin's two older brothers, who were in the house the night she disappeared, will submit to interviews with investigators and provide DNA samples.

Child specialists spoke to the boys on Oct. 4, the day after Lisa's disappearance, but investigators have not had access to Lisa's 5 and 8-year-old half brothers since then.

"This will be the first time we've had a chance to interview them since then," Kansas City Police Officer Darin Snapp told ABCNews.com today. "We have not been allowed access to the children until [parents Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin] agreed to bring them in this Friday."

"We are expecting to collect DNA samples," Snapp said. "It will be very non-intrusive, pretty much just a Q-tip swab." Snapp said some DNA samples, currently in a lab, that were collected from the house are labeled "unknown" and they want to use the boys' DNA to eliminate some of the unknown samples.

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« Reply #806 on: October 26, 2011, 09:04:36 PM »

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« Reply #807 on: October 26, 2011, 09:05:45 PM »

Police: Parents of missing Missouri girl refuse separate interviews

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hmmm......uhh yea....guess I would be right behind you on the banned list if I said what I really want to...lol


I just read where JI came home from the 2nd job to eat....no link, my dad told me he heard it on HLN but I did find this..https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1169347021&ref=ts#!/groups/247978151920153/252359684815333/?notif_t=group_activity  There is a discussion of this, now if it was in between jobs, no issue BUT if he came home and ate after going to his 2nd job, well I have a major issue with that as well as 80% of the way this couple has behaved, the bulk of their concern is for me me me, not baby Lisa.....just like the Cummings/Croslin clan - of course JMO

from what I read he has a regular job and this Starbucks job was a "side" job after the regular job.  I read it should of been done or he thought it would be done that night by 10pm-10:30 and was not.  He did not call...not sure what was/is up with that.



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« Reply #808 on: October 26, 2011, 09:06:05 PM »

Why do you guys think they want to take DNA samples from the 2 boys?

On HLM Vinnies show they said to rule the boys out for whatever the dog hit on.
Which is a good thing...
 
But why would the dogs hit on them...?  They are obviously alive. 

In that video of the parents' bedroom it looks like a large stain on the rug which could (or could not) be urine.  Maybe police are trying to identify if it came from one of the boys or Lisa, which would put Lisa in that bedroom.  That's the only thing I can think of as to why they are taking the boys DNA.
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« Reply #809 on: October 26, 2011, 09:10:53 PM »

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« Reply #810 on: October 26, 2011, 09:11:30 PM »

Oh, and one more thing.

Polygraphs are not admissible in court for a reason - they're not reliable. They might make the public feel better, but the fact is, they're NOT GOOD SCIENCE.

All they're good for is trying to out-psych someone into a confession, whether real or false.

It obviously didn't work in this case. Get over it.


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Sorry, just as you are entitled to your opinion so are we and I sure as he77 won't "get over it", WRT getting drunk while in the charge of 3 small children and acting like a fool / defiant about her adult time is not showing her worry over Lisa, it's showing her worry over self. WRT the children being interviewed , my son was 3 and was interviewed for almost an hour, videotaped so as not to lead him, and I do understand the 5th amendment very well, but if my child were missing I sure as chit wouldn't be going on the non-stop talk show circuit and I have NO doubt she was paid for pictures, typical Anthony playbook....WOW, way to make a first impression...your attitude is less than stellar coming on the SM and telling us to get over it, we all respect other's opinions but I have to say you made a crappy impression, makes me wonder who you are related to in this case. Oh, an FYI for you....all parents are always suspects until LE can move past it, when you lawyer up on the 4th day and then lawyer up with tacopen!s no less, well it looks pretty bad. WRT her being that drunk, I too doubt it, she got that idea from Kevin Fox's dad and his post conviction atty when she was on the night before she changed her story, OOPS....that didn't look to great as you would say "first impression". I think it was he start of her defense case and stand by my opinion. Have a great night and I hope you make a better impression here next time, cause this one sucked
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« Reply #813 on: October 26, 2011, 09:18:14 PM »

It's a little late to question the boys, imo.  They've been under the influence of the adults in their lives hearing about how 'bad' LE has treated them and how LE is blaming their mom & dad.  These boys will have a fear of LE.  They aren't going to tell anything that could be seen as being disloyal to their parents.

Maybe, but a well-trainied/experienced social worker can get info out of children which the children have been instructed not to ever tell.  This is especially true when they have to interview children who have been the victim or sexual, physial, or verbal assault.  Let's just hope the person doing the interviewing has the finesse needed to make the child comfortable enough to tell what really happened.

Speaking of social workers, is anyone surprised that the two boys have not been remove from the home based on the assumption that the parents might be involved?  TX CPS swooped in on the Dunn case and got her older brother to go live with a relative until the investigation hit a standstill.   



Not surprised the other boys have not been removed from the home..no porn or other nasty stuff was found like in the Dunn case.

It takes a lot of info..solid info and facts to even began the process of removing a child from a home..and so far we haven't heard anything to make us believe the boys weren't safe there or taken care of..I know the omount of wine that Debbie claims she drank that evening should be enough..but in a court it would have to be proven..even though she said she drank that much there is no evidence.  Yes her daughter is missing..but there is no physical proof that LE has shared as to how that happened other then what her parents say. 

Do I think this is the best environment for the boys..probably not..however, after many years in social services..I know to remove a child from any situation is very difficult..you need facts, backed up by proof..not anyone else's speculation or say so.

I always wanted to talk to the 3 to 5 year olds in the home..they are the most candid..and believe it or not..due to their ages..know the most about what is happening in the home without a huge amount of embellishment.  However..with this amount of time gone by..and considering the circumstances..and considering the family has more then likely expressed to them not to talk to anyone..they are going to be hard nuts to crack.  I don't think there was any physical abuse in the home..so I doubt they are intimadated other then by the fact it would appear to them that people are trying to hurt their parents..and at their ages that just won't fly with them...it's too late and too little.  They are going to be loyal to their family...and I truly doubt they know much if anything..they probalby eat dinner, watched a movie with their friend, they went to bed.  After that and until LE arrived I think they know nothing.
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« Reply #814 on: October 26, 2011, 09:18:22 PM »

When both the 12:15 AM and 04:00 AM sightings of a man carrying a baby are considered as well as when the aligning descriptions are considered ... I speculate that Jeremy may have been contacted at work by Debbie after baby Lisa met her demise.  He returned home immediately and ... a distraught Jeremy walked the streets with his baby daughter attempting to figure out what to do.  Meanwhile ... Debbie disappeared the cell phones in an attempt keep that contact with Jeremy from being revealed.

Considering the fuzzy image of a male in the 02:30 AM gas station security video appears to be wearing white pants and no baby is revealed ... could it be that this sighting may not be case relevant?

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VELEZ-MITCHELL:  ... Lisa, you claim you saw a man with the baby that night. Are you sure it was a man?

LISA, WITNESS WHO CLAIMS SHE SAW MAN WITH INFANT RESEMBLING BABY LISA: Yes, I am positive.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That is correct. You have no doubts that it was a man? How can you be so sure?

LISA: Yes. Correct. Based on the lighting. When it reflected off of the gentleman`s head, there was no long hair. To us it appeared as if the gentleman had a bald head.

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LISA: The cops did offer to make a sketch for us. However, we didn`t have clear facial features to give them. We were able to describe the man, he was very slender. He was a tall gentleman. He was probably six-foot tall, maybe 5`8" to six-feet tall. So he was a really tall gentleman and he was very, very slender. He was wearing a white T-shirt and some sweat pants.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/24/ng.01.html


2:30 AM

Missing Baby Lisa Irwin: New Surveillance Footage Shows Man Leaving Woods [VIDEO]
October 24, 2011 4:42 PM EDT


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Surveillance footage of a mystery man leaving a wooded area on the night of baby Lisa Irwin's alleged disappearance nearly three weeks ago was located at a gas station in Kansas City near Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin's home. The security camera shows a man dressed in white leaving the woods at 2:30 a.m. just two miles from baby Lisa's home.

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http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/236715/20111024/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-deborah-bradley-jeremy-mystery-man-kansas-city-missouri-cadaver-dog-surveill.htm


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Witnesses Claim They Saw Man Carrying Missing Baby Lisa
Updated: Friday, 21 Oct 2011, 10:27 AM CDT
Published : Friday, 21 Oct 2011, 10:25 AM CDT


(NewsCore) - Three Kansas City residents said Friday that they saw a suspicious man walking the streets with an infant on the night that 11-month-old Lisa Irwin disappeared.

Mike Thompson told ABC's "Good Morning America" that he was heading home on his motorcycle around 4:00am when he noticed the man, who was dressed in a T-shirt, on a street near Baby Lisa's home.

"[It was] 4 o'clock in the morning, 45 degrees, the baby don't have a blanket or coat or nothin', and this guy's walking down the street," Thompson said. "I thought it was kind of weird."

Thompson claimed the infant -- who was only wearing a diaper -- resembled Baby Lisa and said that he would recognize the man if he saw him again.

He said he waited about a week to report the sighting to police because he did not immediately make the connection to Baby Lisa's disappearance.

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« Reply #815 on: October 26, 2011, 09:26:10 PM »

Police: Parents of missing Missouri girl refuse separate interviews

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hmmm......uhh yea....guess I would be right behind you on the banned list if I said what I really want to...lol


I just read where JI came home from the 2nd job to eat....no link, my dad told me he heard it on HLN but I did find this..https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1169347021&ref=ts#!/groups/247978151920153/252359684815333/?notif_t=group_activity  There is a discussion of this, now if it was in between jobs, no issue BUT if he came home and ate after going to his 2nd job, well I have a major issue with that as well as 80% of the way this couple has behaved, the bulk of their concern is for me me me, not baby Lisa.....just like the Cummings/Croslin clan - of course JMO

from what I read he has a regular job and this Starbucks job was a "side" job after the regular job.  I read it should of been done or he thought it would be done that night by 10pm-10:30 and was not.  He did not call...not sure what was/is up with that.




That is what I understood also, but the new info (of course media can and often does get it wrong) was that he left Starbucks to come home and eat.....I need to go re-read the People article Klass posted because I thought it was stated she made dinner for her neighbor....also, he stated he didn't call because the phones weren't working due to non-payment. Who knows anymore.....I am sick to death of the missing kids and especially those harmed by their family which is all too often the case, and even more sick that so many are never found.
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« Reply #816 on: October 26, 2011, 09:27:40 PM »

It's a little late to question the boys, imo.  They've been under the influence of the adults in their lives hearing about how 'bad' LE has treated them and how LE is blaming their mom & dad.  These boys will have a fear of LE.  They aren't going to tell anything that could be seen as being disloyal to their parents.

Maybe, but a well-trainied/experienced social worker can get info out of children which the children have been instructed not to ever tell.  This is especially true when they have to interview children who have been the victim or sexual, physial, or verbal assault.  Let's just hope the person doing the interviewing has the finesse needed to make the child comfortable enough to tell what really happened.

Speaking of social workers, is anyone surprised that the two boys have not been remove from the home based on the assumption that the parents might be involved?  TX CPS swooped in on the Dunn case and got her older brother to go live with a relative until the investigation hit a standstill.   



Not surprised the other boys have not been removed from the home..no porn or other nasty stuff was found like in the Dunn case.

It takes a lot of info..solid info and facts to even began the process of removing a child from a home..and so far we haven't heard anything to make us believe the boys weren't safe there or taken care of..I know the omount of wine that Debbie claims she drank that evening should be enough..but in a court it would have to be proven..even though she said she drank that much there is no evidence.  Yes her daughter is missing..but there is no physical proof that LE has shared as to how that happened other then what her parents say. 

Do I think this is the best environment for the boys..probably not..however, after many years in social services..I know to remove a child from any situation is very difficult..you need facts, backed up by proof..not anyone else's speculation or say so.

I always wanted to talk to the 3 to 5 year olds in the home..they are the most candid..and believe it or not..due to their ages..know the most about what is happening in the home without a huge amount of embellishment.  However..with this amount of time gone by..and considering the circumstances..and considering the family has more then likely expressed to them not to talk to anyone..they are going to be hard nuts to crack.  I don't think there was any physical abuse in the home..so I doubt they are intimadated other then by the fact it would appear to them that people are trying to hurt their parents..and at their ages that just won't fly with them...it's too late and too little.  They are going to be loyal to their family...and I truly doubt they know much if anything..they probalby eat dinner, watched a movie with their friend, they went to bed.  After that and until LE arrived I think they know nothing.

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Maybe i am naive but would not the only caregiver of three young children admitting on a national talk show that she was drunk and could have passed/blacked out the night her daughter went missing be considered gross negligence?  After all ... the well being of THREE children were at risk.  Debbie may as well left the boys and baby daughter alone and gone to a pub.  IMO

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« Reply #817 on: October 26, 2011, 09:34:50 PM »

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« Reply #818 on: October 26, 2011, 09:42:16 PM »

When both the 12:15 AM and 04:00 AM sightings of a man carrying a baby are considered as well as when the aligning descriptions are considered ... I speculate that Jeremy may have been contacted at work by Debbie after baby Lisa met her demise.  He returned home immediately and ... a distraught Jeremy walked the streets with his baby daughter attempting to figure out what to do.  Meanwhile ... Debbie disappeared the cell phones in an attempt keep that contact with Jeremy from being revealed.

Considering the fuzzy image of a male in the 02:30 AM gas station security video appears to be wearing white pants and no baby is revealed ... could it be that this sighting may not be case relevant?

Janet

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12:15 AM

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VELEZ-MITCHELL:  ... Lisa, you claim you saw a man with the baby that night. Are you sure it was a man?

LISA, WITNESS WHO CLAIMS SHE SAW MAN WITH INFANT RESEMBLING BABY LISA: Yes, I am positive.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That is correct. You have no doubts that it was a man? How can you be so sure?

LISA: Yes. Correct. Based on the lighting. When it reflected off of the gentleman`s head, there was no long hair. To us it appeared as if the gentleman had a bald head.

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LISA: The cops did offer to make a sketch for us. However, we didn`t have clear facial features to give them. We were able to describe the man, he was very slender. He was a tall gentleman. He was probably six-foot tall, maybe 5`8" to six-feet tall. So he was a really tall gentleman and he was very, very slender. He was wearing a white T-shirt and some sweat pants.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/24/ng.01.html


2:30 AM

Missing Baby Lisa Irwin: New Surveillance Footage Shows Man Leaving Woods [VIDEO]
October 24, 2011 4:42 PM EDT


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Surveillance footage of a mystery man leaving a wooded area on the night of baby Lisa Irwin's alleged disappearance nearly three weeks ago was located at a gas station in Kansas City near Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin's home. The security camera shows a man dressed in white leaving the woods at 2:30 a.m. just two miles from baby Lisa's home.

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http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/236715/20111024/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-deborah-bradley-jeremy-mystery-man-kansas-city-missouri-cadaver-dog-surveill.htm


04:00 AM

Witnesses Claim They Saw Man Carrying Missing Baby Lisa
Updated: Friday, 21 Oct 2011, 10:27 AM CDT
Published : Friday, 21 Oct 2011, 10:25 AM CDT


(NewsCore) - Three Kansas City residents said Friday that they saw a suspicious man walking the streets with an infant on the night that 11-month-old Lisa Irwin disappeared.

Mike Thompson told ABC's "Good Morning America" that he was heading home on his motorcycle around 4:00am when he noticed the man, who was dressed in a T-shirt, on a street near Baby Lisa's home.

"[It was] 4 o'clock in the morning, 45 degrees, the baby don't have a blanket or coat or nothin', and this guy's walking down the street," Thompson said. "I thought it was kind of weird."

Thompson claimed the infant -- who was only wearing a diaper -- resembled Baby Lisa and said that he would recognize the man if he saw him again.

He said he waited about a week to report the sighting to police because he did not immediately make the connection to Baby Lisa's disappearance.

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http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpps/news/baby-lisa-witnesses-speak-dpgonc-20111021-fc_15585422



But Janet..don't LE say that they did not need him to do a lie detector test because they have videao of him being at Starbucks working at the times he said he was there working?  That means the timeline he gave them checks out with the video footage of when he says he arrived at the job and left the job.

If so that would mean that he was accounted for during those hours of her going missing  and the the timeframe when people saw a man walking holding a baby.

I do not think that was him..and I do not think he had anything to do with this.

I do still suspect the Mom..and I wonder about the phone call she made..I guess LE know who received that call at 2:30 am.
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« Reply #819 on: October 26, 2011, 09:42:31 PM »

Hi
DB keeps saying she put Lisa to bed because she was fussy...never known a fussy baby to go to bed and rest..she may have overdosed Lisa on something to calm her jmo
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