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Topic: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 - 10/27/11 (Read 426305 times)
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fatcatlurker
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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October 26, 2011, 10:20:53 PM »
BTW has anyone else read that there are 2 Johnny Tanko's? aka Jersey's... One white, one black? I saw that on another site from a local just wonder if anyone else saw it?
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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Quote from: klaasend on October 26, 2011, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: pharlap on October 26, 2011, 09:34:50 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on October 26, 2011, 09:18:04 PM
Quote from: klaasend on October 26, 2011, 09:02:05 PM
Starshadow = gone as in banned. Attitude is everything.
I swear you are FAST!!!! I should have known you were on it before wasting my time on a rebuttal.
That was the fastest slam dunk/drop kick I've seen.
Go going Klaass.....
Muffy lets me know when someone is "out of line". Muffy is quick to let me know and I'm quick on the trigger.
Anyone can report another that is "out of line".
But there's only one Klaasend and she is definitely quick on the trigger.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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October 26, 2011, 10:37:50 PM »
Quote from: MuffyBee on October 26, 2011, 10:30:49 PM
Quote from: klaasend on October 26, 2011, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: pharlap on October 26, 2011, 09:34:50 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on October 26, 2011, 09:18:04 PM
Quote from: klaasend on October 26, 2011, 09:02:05 PM
Starshadow = gone as in banned. Attitude is everything.
I swear you are FAST!!!! I should have known you were on it before wasting my time on a rebuttal.
That was the fastest slam dunk/drop kick I've seen.
Go going Klaass.....
Muffy lets me know when someone is "out of line". Muffy is quick to let me know and I'm quick on the trigger.
Anyone can report another that is "out of line".
But there's only one Klaasend and she is definitely quick on the trigger.
you got that right....I didnt even know she was in the house and then all of a suddenI saw the RED words appear I thought I was the one shot!!! lol
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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Itaryl Moosee
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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October 26, 2011, 10:56:41 PM »
Quote from: trimmonthelake on October 26, 2011, 06:56:53 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/police-say-theyll-question-2-older-brothers-of-missing-kansas-city-baby-again/2011/10/26/gIQAvV3jJM_story.html
Police say they’ll interview 2 older brothers of missing Kansas City baby again
By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, October 26, 5:20 PM
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Cynthia Short, the family’s attorney, said Wednesday that police recently asked to interview the boys a second time and the parents “have had to weigh the best interest of their small children against the desire of the law enforcement to bring their boys in for a second interview.”
Ms. Short, instead of "the parents have to weigh the best interest of their small children against the desire of LE to bring their boys for a second interview"... shouldn't it be "the parents have to weigh the best interest of their small children against finding a baby who is missing and may be in danger"?
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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Quote from: klaasend on October 26, 2011, 09:02:05 PM
Starshadow = gone as in banned. Attitude is everything.
I always miss the good stuff!!
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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Quote from: MuffyBee on October 26, 2011, 09:04:36 PM
Quote from: klaasend on October 26, 2011, 09:02:05 PM
Starshadow = gone as in banned. Attitude is everything.
My initial response to the post was "Just smile and wave Monkeys, Just smile and wave..." Lol
But "banned" is much better justice
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-colorado-man-reaches-out-to-family-of-baby-lisa-irwin-20111026,0,7864008.story
Colorado Man Reaches Out to Family of Lisa Irwin
Eric Burke, FOX 4 News Christie Walton, Interactive Content Producer
8:36 p.m. CDT, October 26, 2011
KANSAS CITY, Mo.—
Video at link
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A Colorado man has a similar story to the one of Lisa Irwin's family. Gil Abeyta and his wife woke up on July 15, 1986 and their son Christopher was gone. He's still missing 25 years later.
Abeyta is reaching out to Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin.
"I met with them briefly," Abeyta said. "I could tell they don't trust anyone, not even me."
He says he expected that response. He's been following the story from the beginning. He feels like the baby's parents got some bad advice as well as being overwhelmed and they simply withdrew. Abyeta says talking with them wasn't easy.
"It didn't go as well as I wanted it to, but then again, I was telling them to do this do that," he said. "Talk to police, they didn't like it, you think they like someone coming in and telling them that?"
It's easy to see that Abyeta has a passion for helping families find their missing children. The Lisa Irwin case gets him really fired up.
"It was the closest I've ever had in my life," he said. "That's why I immediately came here. I never had anyone like this. It was so similar, it was like reliving it."
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on October 26, 2011, 09:18:22 PM
When both the 12:15 AM and 04:00 AM sightings of a man carrying a baby are considered as well as when the aligning descriptions are considered ... I speculate that Jeremy may have been contacted at work by Debbie after baby Lisa met her demise. He returned home immediately and ... a distraught Jeremy walked the streets with his baby daughter attempting to figure out what to do. Meanwhile ... Debbie disappeared the cell phones in an attempt keep that contact with Jeremy from being revealed.
Considering the fuzzy image of a male in the 02:30 AM gas station security video appears to be wearing white pants and no baby is revealed ... could it be that this sighting may not be case relevant?
Janet
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpps/news/baby-lisa-witnesses-speak-dpgonc-20111021-fc_15585422
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If the person on the tape is somehow associated with Lisa's disappearance, then by 2:30am he had already done what he had done, but he did not carry Lisa away, as the person in the tape clearly is carrying no baby.
The only problem with the theory of the man seen at 4:00am at Randolph and 48th being Jeremy, is that at 4:00pm Jeremy was at home, calling 911.
I'm sure the police GPSed his call to make sure he was at home.
Well, I guess they would have done that by now.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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Quote from: MuffyBee on October 26, 2011, 10:47:36 PM
I just want to pick her up and give her a big ole hug...where are you Lisa?
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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October 26, 2011, 11:20:11 PM »
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/mother-of-one-of-lisa-irwins-half-brothers-speaks-out
Mother of one of Lisa Irwin’s half brothers speaks out
Posted: 9:44 PM
By: Christina Medina
MARSHALL, Mo. - On the heels of announcement that Baby Lisa Irwin’s two half brothers will speak to investigators Friday, NBC Action News spoke to the biological mother of one of the boys.
Rasleen Raim is the mother of the 8-year-old that was living in the North Lister home. Raim and Jeremy Irwin, Lisa’s father, once lived together in the same Northland home. But in 2008, the couple’s custody battle played out in court and Jeremy Irwin received full custody of their child.
Raim said she has not been able to see her son for years.
NBC Action News Investigator Ryan Kath traveled to Marshall, Mo., the day after Lisa vanished and spoke to Raim in person.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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October 26, 2011, 11:23:44 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on October 26, 2011, 10:01:38 PM
It appears that Mike Thompson identified Jeremy as the person he observed at 04:00 AM in the morning carrying a baby.
Janet
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Baby Lisa Witness Re-Interviewed Witness claims he saw a man walking with a baby the night Lisa Irwin vanished.
02:47 | 10/25/2011
Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/baby-lisa-police-interview-key-witness-14808369
They meant Jersey. The guy identified the man as Jersey, but the police interviewed him thoroughly already, that's why they are not too happy with the new 4:00am witness.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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October 26, 2011, 11:33:01 PM »
Quote from: trimmonthelake on October 26, 2011, 11:20:11 PM
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/mother-of-one-of-lisa-irwins-half-brothers-speaks-out
Mother of one of Lisa Irwin’s half brothers speaks out
Posted: 9:44 PM
By: Christina Medina
MARSHALL, Mo. - On the heels of announcement that Baby Lisa Irwin’s two half brothers will speak to investigators Friday, NBC Action News spoke to the biological mother of one of the boys.
Rasleen Raim is the mother of the 8-year-old that was living in the North Lister home. Raim and Jeremy Irwin, Lisa’s father, once lived together in the same Northland home. But in 2008, the couple’s custody battle played out in court and Jeremy Irwin received full custody of their child.
Raim said she has not been able to see her son for years.
NBC Action News Investigator Ryan Kath traveled to Marshall, Mo., the day after Lisa vanished and spoke to Raim in person.
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Hmm... someone said before that he had her deported. Yet, she's living in the USA.
Why isn't she allowed to see her son? Maybe alcohol/drugs problems, too?
About the boys interview and DNA tests... I'm thinking that the Irwins are allowing the kids to do it because they are sure they didn't see or hear much of what happened.
MOO.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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Hi Everyone
found this on twitter:
https://twitter.com/#!/ryankath
ryankath Ryan Kath
Day after #LisaIrwin vanished, I spoke to Jeremy Irwin's ex, who is the mother of the 8 yr old & once lived at home on N Lister Ave
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ryankath Ryan Kath
Tonight @ChristinaonTV used part of interview for her story about #LisaIrwin’s half-brothers speaking to investigators
bit.ly/rqpprn
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Mother of one of Lisa Irwin’s half brothers speaks out[/b]
By: Christina Medina
MARSHALL, Mo. - On the heels of announcement that Baby Lisa Irwin’s two half brothers will speak to investigators Friday, NBC Action News spoke to the biological mother of one of the boys.
Raim and Jeremy Irwin, Lisa’s father, once lived together in the same Northland home. But in 2008, the couple’s custody battle played out in court and Jeremy Irwin received full custody of their child.
Raim said she has not been able to see her son for years.
NBC Action News Investigator Ryan Kath traveled to Marshall, Mo., the day after Lisa vanished and spoke to Raim in person.
Ryan asked, “What did you think when you heard about the baby?”
“I thought about my boy, I thought it was mine,” Raim said.
“How much do you miss him?”
“I can't even say…I miss him a lot.”
We spoke to Raim on the phone Wednesday night and she said she was worried about her son.
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Ok, I finally found the clip I heard about..it starts around the .50 mark and the reporter states JI took a "brief break" from his first night on the job....so there it is, could be bad reporting or not. If he did take a brief break, then another ugly can o worms open and it's not like this case isn't already infested....WHERE IS LISA
Why do they make it so much harder than it has to be? Why lawyer up after 3 days? Why is everything about their comfort? WHAT ABOUT BABY LISA's COMFORT.....have they already forgotten about her needs (of course other than DB asking that whomever took her to change her diaper?).
Edit to add link per IM. MB
http://www.kctv5.com/category/222182/search-for-missing-baby-lisa-irwin?redirected=true
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Quote from: islandmonkey on October 26, 2011, 11:47:29 PM
Ok, I finally found the clip I heard about..it starts around the .50 mark and the reporter states JI took a "brief break" from his first night on the job....so there it is, could be bad reporting or not. If he did take a brief break, then another ugly can o worms open and it's not like this case isn't already infested....WHERE IS LISA
Why do they make it so much harder than it has to be? Why lawyer up after 3 days? Why is everything about their comfort? WHAT ABOUT BABY LISA's COMFORT.....have they already forgotten about her needs (of course other than DB asking that whomever took her to change her diaper?).
Sorry, I was so mad I forgot the link :
http://www.kctv5.com/category/222182/search-for-missing-baby-lisa-irwin?redirected=true
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October 26, 2011, 11:57:28 PM »
Quote from: islandmonkey on October 26, 2011, 11:47:29 PM
Ok, I finally found the clip I heard about..it starts around the .50 mark and the reporter states JI took a "brief break" from his first night on the job....so there it is, could be bad reporting or not. If he did take a brief break, then another ugly can o worms open and it's not like this case isn't already infested....WHERE IS LISA
Why do they make it so much harder than it has to be? Why lawyer up after 3 days? Why is everything about their comfort? WHAT ABOUT BABY LISA's COMFORT.....have they already forgotten about her needs (of course other than DB asking that whomever took her to change her diaper?).
Edit to add link per IM. MB
http://www.kctv5.com/category/222182/search-for-missing-baby-lisa-irwin?redirected=true
Thanks Muffy, you are quick!! I just re-read the People article and it clearly states that DB cooked dinner for herself, the boys, the neighbor and the neighbor's 4 yr old daughter....so when did JI come home and if this is true it explains the LE's interest in the 2 hrs of his...of course it also tells me the spin that LE didn't need a poly was BS, even if he was on the surveillance camera the entire time, that doesn't equal to lack of knowledge and again Cpt Young has never stated that (not that I heard), instead it was a no comment.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/mother-of-one-of-lisa-irwins-half-brothers-speaks-out
Mother of one of Lisa Irwin’s half brothers speaks out
Posted: 9:44 PM
Last Updated: 17 minutes ago
Video now posted at link.
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http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/26/3231522/babys-brothers-to-be-interviewed.html
Posted on Wed, Oct. 26, 2011 10:54 PM
Baby’s brothers to be interviewed again
By TONY RIZZO and MARK MORRIS
The Kansas City Star
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Police have not revealed what, if anything, the boys saw or heard on the night their sister disappeared.
Police plan to obtain DNA samples from the boys as well. A police spokesman said that is primarily being done to obtain “elimination” samples that can be compared with any unknown DNA samples obtained during the investigation. Such samples can be obtained using a cotton swab inside the mouth and don’t require taking blood.
Meanwhile, the couple’s lawyers are planning two media events today.
In the morning, pool photographers will tour the family home on North Lister Avenue. Those images will be distributed to Kansas City and national media outlets.
In the afternoon, lawyer Cyndy Short will answer questions, from local reporters only, at a news conference.
Short’s law firm also pledged to issue daily media updates to reporters.
Read more:
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/26/3231522/babys-brothers-to-be-interviewed.html#ixzz1bx6oMaQX
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Re: Lisa Irwin #4 10/21/11 -
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Quote from: Itaryl Moosee on October 26, 2011, 11:23:44 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on October 26, 2011, 10:01:38 PM
It appears that Mike Thompson identified Jeremy as the person he observed at 04:00 AM in the morning carrying a baby.
Janet
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Baby Lisa Witness Re-Interviewed Witness claims he saw a man walking with a baby the night Lisa Irwin vanished.
02:47 | 10/25/2011
Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/baby-lisa-police-interview-key-witness-14808369
They meant Jersey. The guy identified the man as Jersey, but the police interviewed him thoroughly already, that's why they are not too happy with the new 4:00am witness.
Deb and JI are the
only ones that said he
, JI got home at 4am.
Anyone else see him walk in the front door at 4am?????????
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===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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