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Topic: Lisa Irwin #5 10/21/11 - 11/02/11 (Read 462502 times)
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Re: Lisa Irwin #5 10/21/11 -
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Quote from: Ono on October 31, 2011, 11:57:37 AM
I guess perhaps you could apply the old saying: "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" ????? to this scenario ... ???
Curiouser & curiouser ...
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Re: Lisa Irwin #5 10/21/11 -
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Is Wild Bill "William E."? Is his law practice in Stanfordville, NY? There are many William Stanton attorneys. Trying to find his wife's name.
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Quote from: Ono on October 31, 2011, 11:57:37 AM
I guess perhaps you could apply the old saying: "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" ????? to this scenario ... ???
Curiouser & curiouser ...
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Quote from: trimmonthelake on October 31, 2011, 09:29:30 AM
New York attorney Joe Tacopina talked to ABC's "Good Morning America" Monday about the investigation. See what he had to say:
www.kmbc.com
by Karen Yancey/Staff 10/31/2011 1:09:20 PM 8:09 AM
Read more:
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1cMjE39Cl
This is criminal defense lawyer Joe Tacopina
talking about cross-examining witnesses.
"When I get into the well of a courtroom, I smell blood a mile away. And I will bring you right there. And I will do it slowly and methodically. And I will make sure the jury sees your innards coming out of you."
read more:
http://www.tacopinalaw.com/pdfs/westport1102.pdf
It is too bad he is not representing baby Lisa, sounds like he could get to the truth pretty quick.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #5 10/21/11 -
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Cyndy Short: I think the KCPD is just as interested in finding baby Lisa as the rest of us
by Brian Foster - KMBC.com 10/31/2011 3:49:12 PM 10:49 AM
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Cyndy Short holds a news conference outside her office
by Brian Foster - KMBC.com 10/31/2011 3:47:34 PM 10:
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http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1cNVZVTbV
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Re: Lisa Irwin #5 10/21/11 -
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Quote from: Yoder1 on October 31, 2011, 12:30:31 PM
Quote from: trimmonthelake on October 31, 2011, 09:29:30 AM
New York attorney Joe Tacopina talked to ABC's "Good Morning America" Monday about the investigation. See what he had to say:
www.kmbc.com
by Karen Yancey/Staff 10/31/2011 1:09:20 PM 8:09 AM
Read more:
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1cMjE39Cl
This is criminal defense lawyer Joe Tacopina
talking about cross-examining witnesses.
"When I get into the well of a courtroom, I smell blood a mile away. And I will bring you right there. And I will do it slowly and methodically. And I will make sure the jury sees your innards coming out of you."
read more:
http://www.tacopinalaw.com/pdfs/westport1102.pdf
It is too bad he is not representing baby Lisa, sounds like he could get to the truth pretty quick.
Here is a little more from that same article:
"...Tacopina defends clients who are not eminently defendable, he is likely to employ a disarming strategy. He
will own up to the client's general badness. That way, the client is no longer on trial for being unsavory..."
Such as having a client admit, early on, on world-wide television, "I was a drunk and passed out", essentially, saying she was a terrible mother for doing this, but stupidly, then, adds her OWN little bit of rationalization, "I don't see anything wrong with that."
I wonder if we will only find out what else lurks in BD and JI lives when LE or social media discovers it first?
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Re: Lisa Irwin #5 10/21/11 -
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More of DB's relatives"
"Deborah Netz Bradley, the mother of baby Lisa, is a second cousin to Donna Pretti, an investigator for the Delaware County Medical Examiner’s office, and Eddystone Patrolman Joseph Pretti. Donna and Joe are first cousins."
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http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2011/10/06/news/doc4e8d126a97a3c717320879.txt
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About Michael Larette, in the beginning of the case someone mentioned a cousin coming from Houston, Texas, who was a lawyer.
If cousin Mike is a lawyer, then Stanton and him may have common friends, I would think.
In one of the Lisa Facebook pages, he commented two or three days after Lisa disappeared that more than the baby was taken but he couldn't comment more. A few days later the phones were mentioned by Deborah in an interview.
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The feud between Short and Tacopina is a bit of an embarrassment to the legal profession. I don't believe for a second that either of them is concerned for the parents, or the missing child. All that concerns them is publicity and fame that the case brings.
Right now Cyndy Short can't get enough of it, so she will continue in the case and bring updates in her Facebook page, even if she's not on the case.
Tacopina love the morning show interviews, to spill a little BS and say a lot of nothing.
They all want to be Baezes.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #5 10/21/11 -
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Quote from: StarMonkey on October 31, 2011, 11:04:23 AM
Im wondering who Mike Thompson (motercycle guy at 4 am) picked from the photos?
http://news.yahoo.com/baby-lisa-irwin-case-huge-break-false-alarm-202200617.html
::snipping2::
Thompson picked the man out from a series of six photos Monday.
Happy Halloween!!!!!!!
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When the description that neighbor Lisa provides of 12:15 AM sighting is considered and ... then when the identification provided of motorcyclist Mike Thompson regarding the 4:00 AM sighting is considered ... could it be that the male carry the baby was Jeremy?
What was the actual time that Jeremy arrived home following neighbor Maria's departure.
Was Jeremy contacted by Debra after something bad happened to his daughter through an act of rage/frustration? Could baby Lisa have been administered an overdose of medication?
Did Jeremy place himself in various locations in an attempt to further an abduction fabrication/staging?
Where does fit Megan Wright fit into the picture?
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Quote from: Kermit on October 29, 2011, 02:06:40 PM
Jeremy Irwin
12:15 AM
NANCY GRACE
Aired October 24, 2011 - 20:00 ET
VELEZ-MITCHELL: ... Lisa, you claim you saw a man with the baby that night. Are you sure it was a man?
LISA, WITNESS WHO CLAIMS SHE SAW MAN WITH INFANT RESEMBLING BABY LISA: Yes, I am positive.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: That is correct. You have no doubts that it was a man? How can you be so sure?
LISA: Yes. Correct. Based on the lighting. When it reflected off of the gentleman`s head, there was no long hair.
To us it appeared as if the gentleman had a bald head
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LISA: The cops did offer to make a sketch for us. However, we didn`t have clear facial features to give them. We were able to describe the man, he was very slender. He was a tall gentleman. He was probably six-foot tall, maybe 5`8" to six-feet tall.
So he was a really tall gentleman and he was very, very slender.
He was wearing a white T-shirt and some sweat pants.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/24/ng.01.html
NANCY GRACE
Aired October 24, 2011 - 20:00 ET
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We seen a gentleman walking up the street, carrying a baby. He was wearing, like, a dark-colored pants and what we believe was a T-shirt. He had the baby in his arms, and he had the baby`s head kind of like this.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/24/ng.01.html
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Witnesses Claim They Saw Man Carrying Missing Baby Lisa
Updated: Friday, 21 Oct 2011, 10:27 AM CDT
Published : Friday, 21 Oct 2011, 10:25 AM CDT
(NewsCore) - Three Kansas City residents said Friday that they saw a suspicious man walking the streets with an infant on the night that 11-month-old Lisa Irwin disappeared.
Mike Thompson told ABC's "Good Morning America" that he was heading home on his motorcycle around 4:00am when he noticed the man, who was dressed in a T-shirt, on a street near Baby Lisa's home.
"[It was] 4 o'clock in the morning, 45 degrees, the baby don't have a blanket or coat or nothin', and this guy's walking down the street," Thompson said. "I thought it was kind of weird."
Thompson claimed the infant -- who was only wearing a diaper -- resembled Baby Lisa and said that he would recognize the man if he saw him again.
He said he waited about a week to report the sighting to police because he did not immediately make the connection to Baby Lisa's disappearance.
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpps/news/baby-lisa-witnesses-speak-dpgonc-20111021-fc_15585422
Baby Lisa Witness Re-Interviewed Witness claims he saw a man walking with a baby the night Lisa Irwin vanished.
02:47 | 10/25/2011
Re: Photo Lineup
Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/baby-lisa-police-interview-key-witness-14808369
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Re: Lisa Irwin #5 10/21/11 -
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http://www.plattecountylandmark.com/ifoley.htm
PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR HAS OBSERVATIONS ON BABY LISA
Posted 10/28/11
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Re: Lisa Irwin #5 10/21/11 -
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October 31, 2011, 01:11:20 PM »
Quote from: Yoder1 on October 31, 2011, 12:30:31 PM
Quote from: trimmonthelake on October 31, 2011, 09:29:30 AM
New York attorney Joe Tacopina talked to ABC's "Good Morning America" Monday about the investigation. See what he had to say:
www.kmbc.com
by Karen Yancey/Staff 10/31/2011 1:09:20 PM 8:09 AM
Read more:
http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1cMjE39Cl
This is criminal defense lawyer Joe Tacopina
talking about cross-examining witnesses.
"When I get into the well of a courtroom, I smell blood a mile away. And I will bring you right there. And I will do it slowly and methodically. And I will make sure the jury sees your innards coming out of you."
read more:
http://www.tacopinalaw.com/pdfs/westport1102.pdf
It is too bad he is not representing baby Lisa, sounds like he could get to the truth pretty quick.
He's huffing and puffing, trying to scare those who will go against him.
For all the grandstanding.. wouldn't it be grand if this case would turn around and bite him on the ass?
And, you got it. It would be nice if his energy were directed at finding Lisa.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #5 10/21/11 -
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http://twitter.com/#!/profilerpatb
ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
I wish #BabyLisa would be found and the lawyers would go missing. #LisaIrwin #CyndyShort #JoeTacopina
55 minutes ago
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http://twitter.com/#!/profilerpatb
ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
I wish #BabyLisa would be found and the lawyers would go missing. #LisaIrwin #CyndyShort #JoeTacopina
55 minutes ago
Where's the "Like" button? <click>
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http://www.kmbc.com/news/29637763/detail.html
Ex-Attorney: 'Tacopina And I Couldn't Work As Team'
Cyndy Short Says Team Will Continue To Work To Find Lisa Irwin
POSTED: 11:04 am CDT October 31, 2011
UPDATED: 12:12 pm CDT October 31, 2011
Video at link.
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"My team, which is 17 people strong, is very saddened that we are no longer serving the family as we did the last 10 days. However, we still care very much about them and we will continue to be available to them, to support them emotionally and to help them rally the community support even if we are not allowed to see them or to talk to them," attorney Cyndy Short said.
Read more:
http://www.kmbc.com/news/29637763/detail.html#ixzz1cNnQPWgO
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Re: Lisa Irwin #5 10/21/11 -
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Quote from: KittyMom on October 31, 2011, 01:48:58 PM
Quote from: trimmonthelake on October 31, 2011, 01:15:19 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/profilerpatb
ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
I wish #BabyLisa would be found and the lawyers would go missing. #LisaIrwin #CyndyShort #JoeTacopina
55 minutes ago
Where's the "Like" button? <click>
Let's put that on our Christmas list.
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“When I got involved in this case, I did it to stand up for Jeremy and Deborah and to prevent any kind of wrongful arrest or conviction,” she said.
Not to help find Lisa, so now that she is no longer the parents lawyer she will look for Lisa?
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When she contacted Lisa’s parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, they told her they thought it would be best for them to work with Tacopina, she said.
So, the parents had input in her firing?
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She said her team had volunteered more than 700 hours developing leads, receiving tips and providing emotional support and legal services to Lisa’s parents.
Divide 700 hours in the two weeks she worked for the case... that's 50 hours per day.
Okay, so it was a team... still, too many hours per day to be correct.
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/31/3240043/parents-former-attorney-talks.html
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Quote from: MuffyBee on October 31, 2011, 01:52:11 PM
Quote from: KittyMom on October 31, 2011, 01:48:58 PM
Quote from: trimmonthelake on October 31, 2011, 01:15:19 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/profilerpatb
ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
I wish #BabyLisa would be found and the lawyers would go missing. #LisaIrwin #CyndyShort #JoeTacopina
55 minutes ago
Where's the "Like" button? <click>
Let's put that on our Christmas list.
YES...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Could it be that Private Investigator Bill Stanton has not considered the possibility that Jeremy Irwin is the male the neighbours observed at 12:15 AM walking down the street with an unclothed baby while attempting to further an abduction fabrication/staging.
Janet
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Investigator tours home of missing baby Lisa
updated 10/31/2011 10:49:03 AM ET
Kansas City police have not produced any suspects or strong leads, although a next-door neighbor of the Irwins told NBC News last week that she spoke to investigators about seeing a man carrying a diaper-clad baby in the neighborhood around 12:15 a.m. on the night Lisa Irwin disappeared.
“To me, that is imperative, that is glaring,’’ Stanton said of the claim. “This needs to be followed up by everyone.’’
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http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45103609
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http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/mystery-call-to-mom-s-missing-cellphone-night-baby-lisa-went-missing
Mystery call from mom’s missing cellphone night baby Lisa went missing
Isabelle Zehnder
, Missing Persons Examiner
October 29, 2011
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Hear what Megan said during a KMBC interview Friday:
“I received a phone call - well my phone did, the night that Baby Lisa went missing, apparently a 50-second phone call. I don’t know who answered it, what was said, or who was on the other end of the phone.”
Megan said that the night baby Lisa vanished she and her ex-boyfriend were in the neighborhood, but that she did not know the baby’s family and had not heard of the baby until she saw reports on the news.
Asked what she told police Megan said, “I told them I’d been through the neighborhood with my boyfriend, I’d been through there. I didn’t know the family, I didn’t recognize the pictures. I had never seen Baby Lisa until I saw a picture on the news.”
Megan doesn’t explain how, if she didn’t answer the call, her cellphone would have received a call, and how her cellphone managed to stay on the line for 50 seconds.
She doesn’t say she suspects someone stole her phone, or that someone had borrowed her phone that night. Just that the phone received a call.
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Quote from: trimmonthelake on October 31, 2011, 01:11:01 PM
http://www.plattecountylandmark.com/ifoley.htm
PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR HAS OBSERVATIONS ON BABY LISA
Posted 10/28/11
He's asking the same questions we are...as are most people following this case.
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===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
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=> Natalee Holloway
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